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Chimpanzee demonstrates how simple it is to erase voting system log (Video)
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Posted on 09/26/2004 9:24:08 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

"Impossible." -- David Bear, Diebold

What the chimp did: Simply by double-clicking the file, we opened a real Diebold audit log file, using real Diebold software. We then highlighted the records we wanted to obliterate. (Baxter, the chimp, has difficulty handling a mouse.) Baxter then hit the "Delete" key, erasing the audit log records, and then the "Enter" key, confirming the command.

What is the audit log? It is an automatically generated report that, like the "black box" in an airplane, is supposed to keep a record of everything that happens in the election. Supposedly, according to Diebold, it will keep a record of any tampering. And according to the Diebold RFP sales proposal to the state of Georgia, the audit log cannot be altered "by human intervention."

Well, it took a chimp 10 minutes to learn how to alter it. The truth is, you could alter Diebold's audit log by dropping a dead fish on it. Our demonstration, which Diebold called "impossible" and "a magic show" was all too real.

(Excerpt) Read more at blackboxvoting.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: election; electronicvoting; fraud; newbie; repeat
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1 posted on 09/26/2004 9:24:08 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I really don't get the burning desire some counties have to use electronic voting machines. It seems to me that both Republicans and Democrats are pretty much against it. I don't see any reason we can't just use paper ballots that are marked with an X. One guy counts while a scrutineer from each side looks on.

Part of me wonders if the use of voting machines is just to help the media get the results out faster.

2 posted on 09/26/2004 9:26:57 AM PDT by Mr. Burns
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

LOL. You know, your post has something in common with this one.....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227522/posts


3 posted on 09/26/2004 9:29:03 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I guess this is where the Dems will go when they lose this election.


4 posted on 09/26/2004 9:29:13 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: nuconvert

I saw that after I posted. Its kind of eery


5 posted on 09/26/2004 9:33:33 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

San Diego County's attempt to roll out these machines was a debacle. Classic example of a rushed and poorly-planned system deployment (esp. the training aspect), which the County then glossed over (or tried to.) Local radio hosts didn't let them skate, however.

Now we're hearing that Diebold may have serious issues on a purely technical level. Great: more ways for Dems to scream "vote fraud!"


6 posted on 09/26/2004 9:33:42 AM PDT by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

lol. It could be the start of a theme......


7 posted on 09/26/2004 9:36:48 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I have always found it curious that we seem to have forgotten on aspect of society, when it comes to voting!

Aren't 'illiterate' voters disenfranchised from the process?

Wouldn't it be simpler just to have the candidates picture, with a little box next to it be a better way to cast a ballot?

And since many states are opting for electronic voting, putting together such a system would not be that difficult.

That's assuming, of course, that they know what each candidate looks like.

Just a thought!


8 posted on 09/26/2004 9:37:13 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

"What the chimp did: Simply by double-clicking the file, we opened a real Diebold audit log file, using real Diebold software. We then highlighted the records we wanted to obliterate. "

"Well, it took a chimp 10 minutes to learn how to alter it. "

This is a totally disengenuous article.

By their own addmission, the 'chimp' didn't learn any such thing.

THEY brought up the list. THEY highlighted the idems THEY wanted to delete.

The only thing the chimp did was to hit 'delete' which THEY probably showed him which key it was, and then hit 'enter or any other key to confirm' the deletion.

How stupid do these people think we are??


9 posted on 09/26/2004 9:41:10 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Evidently Diebold is using a PC with Winows as its platform.

Incredible.

10 posted on 09/26/2004 9:41:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Bigh4u2
This is a totally disengenuous article

It is satire. Satire to point out a horrible flaw in the system. More people are likely to understand the issue given the ridiculousness of the article.
11 posted on 09/26/2004 9:44:40 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Bingo ballots.

Every 'player' picks their candidate and stamps their name with a bingo dauber.

Every so often, one voter wins a toaster.

You'd have old people lined up a mile long.

You could even charge them, they'd love it even more.

12 posted on 09/26/2004 9:55:57 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Just goes to show that monkeys shouldn't be allowed to vote. ;) Reading and comprehending ENGLISH ought to be a prerequisite along with US citizenship IMO.
13 posted on 09/26/2004 10:06:54 AM PDT by canalabamian (Common sense, unfortunately, is not very common)
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To: Bigh4u2
How stupid do these people think we are??

[Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]

Hmm. No links, no about page, just signed up.

Well, if you are from DU, the answer to the question is self-evident.

14 posted on 09/26/2004 10:10:42 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: macbee
I have been an engineer most of my life and have used technology all of that time. I do not fear technology, I distrust it. Not quite the same thing.

Every time I see a discussion like this I picture the images of the new technology, a majestic Airbus, state of the art and quintuple redundant safety systems, taking off before an ecstatic crowd, proud of their achievemnt and celebrating their countries' excellence.

Taking off, and majestically and deliberately rising slowly into the sky until it hit the grove of trees a mile and a half away. Killing their chief test pilot.

15 posted on 09/26/2004 10:14:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: atomicpossum
Bingo ballots.

Every 'player' picks their candidate and stamps their name with a bingo dauber.

Every so often, one voter wins a toaster.

You'd have old people lined up a mile long.

You could even charge them, they'd love it even more.

What a resemblance to my latest World-ChangingTM idea--
Random appointment to Congress, just like jury duty!

No constant re-elections;
No more ballot-box stuffing;
No more bribery by special interests than we have now;
And people who will have to go back and live under the
laws they just passed!

16 posted on 09/26/2004 10:15:51 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
UNHOLY CRAP! You mean ANY liberal with the brains of a monkey (average union worker) can change votes on a state wide election, like in Floriduh!?!?

Wow, they do not have to register the dead any more! Or have whole developments go on vacation at the same time to put in identical absentee ballots.

Just think of that poooooor monkey, after the polls close. He won't have a job counting who didn't vote. Then take those votes and count them as democRAT votes.

Poor Monkey!
17 posted on 09/26/2004 10:15:51 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Ask Questions. Surf The Net. Find The Truth.)
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To: Bigh4u2
How stupid do these people think we are??

Stupid enough to concentrate on irrelevancies and miss the most significant point of the article:

How easily the log file was blown away.

Did you ever have trouble with the logic section of the SATs?

18 posted on 09/26/2004 10:16:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: Mr. Burns

The use of a voting machine is at best to avoid work, and at worst, an effort to fix elections.

Touch voting does not prevent using that touch screen simply to print out a scanable ballot that is counted in a separate scanner counter machine. You then have a paper trail and you've separated the touch screen computer from the counting machine. You can even put a sorter on the counting machine to force it to put Candidate A's votes in one pile and candidate B's in another. That way you can visually verify either a runaway or close election.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 10:20:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins
The means of making a foolproof system of counting ballots are endless, in spite of the fact that the fools are constantly in search of the means of circumventing it.

Let's face it. The hapless, the incompetent, the truly and pathetically ignorant have always used cheating as the great equalizer. It is part of the human gene, tucked away between the "license" and "liberal" genomes.

20 posted on 09/26/2004 10:29:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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