Posted on 09/23/2004 2:51:20 AM PDT by kattracks
Join us in preserving strict intrepretation of our Constitution and denounce the descecration of our flag. Frankly it "matters'..
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1226625/posts
" Pipes accused Muslims of the OKC bombing because of the MO's similarity to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. After the outcry from American Muslims, he backpeddled and apologized, even though there was ample evidence that Muslims had carried out the OKC bombing. "
I didn't know that.
Feel free to trivialize the issues. I, for one, refuse to play that game.
Our Constitution, not loose intrepretation of which.
Read this Mr. 5.56...
By Anthony F. Milavic
Recent U.S. Army laboratory tests have confirmed almost 40 years of demonstrated inferior lethality by the 5.56mm cartridge.
Since 1965, Americans have reported that enemy soldiers continued to fire their weapons after suffering multiple hits by 5.56mm bullets. Most recently, the Interim Report of these tests observes that “less than optimal” performance of the 62-grain 5.56mm M855 cartridge in Somalia and Afghanistan prompted many Special Operations Forces (SOF) units to switch to the heavier 77-grain 5.56mm MK262 ammunition.
All three 5.56mm bullets – 62-grain M855, 77-grain Mk262, and the Le Mas bullets – were inferior to the larger 110-grain 6.8mm and 149-grain 7.62mm bullets in gelatin performance tests. Although the 6.8mm round received the highest overall rating, it is the 7.62mm that “had the highest impact energy of those tested.”
This translates into, “knockdown power” and it is one-round knockdown power that is critical to the warrior’s survival. This is due to the fact that in combat, a warrior frequently gets only one shot; and in other situations, the time between the first and second shot is long enough for the enemy to kill him with one shot.
The demonstrated combat performance of even the largest 5.56mm bullet tested above is sorely inferior to this requirement; for example, on Sept. 12, 2003, after being hit by seven 77-grain 5.56mm bullets, an Iraqi insurgent killed both Master Sgt. Kevin N. Morehead and Sgt. 1st Class William M. Bennett with his 7.62mm Kalashnikov.
Then, Staff Sgt. Robert E Springer threw aside his 5.56mm M-4 carbine and knocked the insurgent down dead with one .45 cal. pistol bullet.
If the 2004 Interim Report doesn’t prompt the replacement of the 5.56mm cartridge, it is time to ask the Department of Defense: How many tombstones will be added to those of Master Sgt. Morehead and Sgt. 1st Class Bennett before you provide our warriors with one-round knockdown power?
"5.56". Indeed.
You must be replying to someone else. I've never made the above statement, "bud." Oh, and "bud," you've been here long enough to know that "5.56mm" is my tag line, not some idle threat. (Btw, I don't threaten people, it gives them a heads up).
5.56mm
You said it perfectly! Just once I'd like to see these alleged "moderate Muslims" spend even a fraction as much energy UNCONDITIONALLY condemning Muslim terrorism as they do giving finger-wagging lectures to the rest of us about how we need to learn more about Islam. And by "unconditionally" I mean without their usual snide insinuations that victims of Muslim terror somehow "have it coming" because of alleged wrongs done to the Muslim world.
What exactly are you referring to? Hindu/Sikkh war? It could happen...any number of things "could" happen, but for arguments sake, let's stick to the present conflicts.
Regarding Quran/ Mecca/Medina...the simplest way to put this is to say that the Medina "overrides" the more peaceful, benign Meccan sura/hadiths...
"Given that I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree [feel free to disagree:-)] what do you mean?" I disagree...I believe you are looking for information. I'm glad to help. You should check out a number of websites:
www.faithfreedom.org, www.danielpipes.org, www.jihadwatch.org....
All will give you specifics. You would be particularly interested in a symposium that included former muslim, Walid Shoebat...very informative. Let me know if you can not find the info and I will post.
"ISLAMERICA"
NEVER!!!!!!
You know, I`m willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this wahabist/islam-jihad $#*T has gone WAY TOO FAR and still SILENCE. If muslims REALLY believed in peace, you would think that at least SOME OF THEM would have done SOMETHING by now, right?
I was speaking specifically of "Mecca vs. Medina interpretations." Never heard of this before.
To quote Charlton Heston:
"From my cold dead hands..."
Which is why I referred you to the websites I noted.
This is a quote from the Symposium I referred you to.
"I think you know very well that the 114 “suras” in the Qur’an are separated by Muslim scholars into the two categories of “Meccan” and “Medinan” and that the Medinan verses follow and also nullify many of the former verses. And I think you are aware that even mainstream Islamic commentators regard Sura 9 as precisely the Qur'an's last word on jihad, because it was the last sura revealed. But this debate must occur at another time and place."
Also this...http://www.answeringislam.org/
Look under abrogation...
America already HAS an Islamic state. It is our northern neighbor Canuckistan.
"80% of our mosques here in the US are infected with wahabism."
I've read that too.
And less than 7% of this country's muslims attend weekly prayer.
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