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New Mapes Bombshell !
Fox News Channel | 9/22/04 | Fox News - Carl Cameron

Posted on 09/22/2004 3:23:09 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001

Paraphrasing - Fox News found out Mary Mapes was sending protected letters to a Prisoner in a High Security Prison in Colorado. Also what was said is Mapes holds strong Liberal views.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; mapenfreude; marymapes; marymarywhyyoubuggin; peterlangen; planetofthemapes; seebsnews; stainedbluememo
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To: Catspaw
You're all missing the point.

McVeigh alive wouldn't do, if Mary got her story from Langan.

It would be after he was dead. MM would get Langan to give her a story by doing these favors. That story would be whatever Langan saw made Mary happy. Which would likely put blame on all MM's enemies (which included both father and son BUSH)

Another, "We don't just report the news, we make it up" story to CBS and MM.

No one could ask McVeigh for confirmation, now could they?

281 posted on 09/22/2004 9:05:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just because you are not paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't scanning your IP for your personal info.)
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To: JesseJane
Wonder if CBS sent Anthrax to itself too.

OH MY GOODNESS LOL What next?

282 posted on 09/22/2004 9:16:35 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

FYI on Langan from Alamo Girl on http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1224176/posts?page=36

Peter Langan hates the United States government. Peter Langan is in prison and Peter Langan wants to talk. Langan, is the son of a CIA intelligence officer and he was raised throughout his early years in Viet Nam. After getting into some trouble in Georgia for the robbery of a Pizza Hut, Langan agreed to help the Secret Service find a friend of his - Richard Guthrie. But Langan and Guthrie disappeared or as Langan said, "went to ether." They holed up in a "safe house" in Pittsburgh, Kansas with a few other misfits, namely, Scott Stedeford, Michael Brescia, Kevin McCarthy, and Mark Thomas. Throughout their reign, they could be found in many different safe-houses throughout the Midwest, but their base of operations was Elohim City. Langan adopted the code name "Commander Pedro" for the operations of the Aryan Republican Army. While Andreas Strassmeir has never been identified as an ARA member, the right-wing, anti-semetic news zine, Vanguard News Network, places him squarely in the middle of group. Peter was bodacious and somewhat of an embarrassment to the "cause." Claiming to be a "preoperative transexual," Langan wears his hair and his nails extremely long. One can't help but wonder how that plays out with the White Power crowd. ...

Among the items found by law enforcement was a video tape made by the Aryan Republican Army in January, 1995. This tape was used as a recruitment tool and to incite violence against the federal government. It serves as a sobering reminder as to what these people were all about. Brandishing wads of cash as well as guns, machetes and grenades masked "Commander Pedro" (Langan) tells the viewing audience of a coming Aryan Revolution. The raspy voice of Peter Langan tells us "Our basic goal is to set up an Aryan Republic...Don't mistake us for cultists. We, ladies and gentlemen, are YOUR neighbors." The almost two-hour tape is a racist and anti-semitic rant with men dressed in military garb and disguises. Langan can be seen demonstrating the proper use of a grenade. And at one strange point in the film, Langan looks directly into the camera and rasps, "In solidarity with our Serbian brothers, we understand the meaning of ethnic cleansing." One masked figure in the video states the "Army's" objectives as ""Eliminate the government, from the federal government to the county seats. Exterminate Hymie. Repatriate all non-whites to their homes. Return the country to the Bible." And the stated principals are, "All racial minorities are subhuman, Jews are ``Satan's spawn,'' whites of northern European descent are ``chosen people,'' and that a U.N.-led ``New World Order'' threatens freedom in the United States.

Other members of the Aryan Republican Army included Richard Lee Guthrie, a court-martialed Navy Seal. A childhood friend of Peter Langan, Guthrie came under federal law enforcement scrutiny after making a threat toward President George Bush in 1991. Guthrie was very forthcoming with information upon his arrest. He reportedly was writing a book which would chronicle the events of the ARA. He, however, is reported to have killed himself in his cell. According to Robert Ruth, a staff writer for the Columbus Dispatch, "Guthrie was found dead in his cell with a sheet around his neck, an apparent suicide. Guthrie's body was found shortly after he pleaded guilty to 19 robberies and agreed to testify against Peter "Commander Pedro" Langan and other alleged members of the gang." He had already provided information that resulted in the arrests of McCarthy and Stedeford. Additionally, as part of the plea bargain reached with the FBI, Guthrie asserted that he could provide them with information on other "cells" and groups "whose goal was the overthrow of the government or engaging in acts of domestic terrorism." At one point, he alluded to a fellow ARA member named "Tim." His body was found 9 days after entering the plea bargain agreement and only hours after telling a reporter for the Los Angeles Times that he intended to write a "tell-all" book "That would go a lot further into what we were really doing."

On May 10, 2001, the Federal Bureau of Investigation released a report stating that Timothy McVeigh actually was part of the Aryan Republican Army and had participated in the bank robberies to accumulate funds for his act of terrorism. This came six years after they were provided with information by a federal informant who had placed McVeigh squarely with members of the Army. The FBI had also been informed by witnesses who saw McVeigh with some of the members in the area of Lake Geary Park when the bomb was being built. Additionally, Jennifer McVeigh, Timothy's sister, had testified that she had "laundered" money for Tim that came from a bank robbery. As we further study the ARA, we can't help but further the question, "Why were these people never questioned or arrested?"


33 posted on 09/22/2004 8:05:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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283 posted on 09/22/2004 9:37:24 PM PDT by Sal
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To: GretchenM
CBS sowed the wind and got...


284 posted on 09/22/2004 9:39:13 PM PDT by One4Indictment
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To: swheats
Mapes acted as mediator between two prisoners receiving protected letters, which was against prison policy

I just heard that on the second airing of Special Report

What I didn't understand is why did she do it?

285 posted on 09/22/2004 9:40:09 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Why hasn't this woman been arrested yet? Oh, excuse me, the post says she is a liberal. Now I see why she is still on the streets.


286 posted on 09/22/2004 9:42:46 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Mo1

I don't know if that's known yet. I haven't finished reading this thread maybe someone else has the info.

If you find out plz ping me.


287 posted on 09/22/2004 10:04:18 PM PDT by swheats
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To: swheats

Will do


288 posted on 09/22/2004 10:07:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Langan was arrested in late '96 and was doing life w/o parole, so what was Mapes' interest in him at that time, just post 9/11? (The letter from the warden is dated November 2001.)

Langan has ties to the known, white-bread OKC boys. I wonder if he knows anything about the others. Like Hussein al Husseini.

I still can't help wondering why Mapes was spending time with and illegally helping an incarcerated bank robber who had been in jail for about 5 years.

I think she was interested in the OKC connection, but was she trying to get a story or trying to squelch one?


289 posted on 09/22/2004 10:08:42 PM PDT by Sal
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To: johnd01; swheats
I don't know if this has been answered yet, but the White Supremicist dragged a black man to death behind his pickup truck.

The letter has to deal with that case???

If I recall the judge ordered her in contempt of court

CBS eventually turned the tapes over after she was threatened with jail time.

From what I understand .. CBS worked out a deal .. they never handed over the tapes .. only the transcript

290 posted on 09/22/2004 10:14:12 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Mo1

So was she trying to help two prisoners' stories to match up on their appeals or what? This doesn't make sense.

I have to wonder what shenanigans were in the mix in Abu Gharib and photos just happen to land in Mapes lap also. Are we to believe forged documents were only the second time she used really bad judgment.

I hope I'm not making false accusations, but it is amazing to find that Code Pink is able to work in Iraq without any problems.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0510-01.htm

To use an old Hillary saying, turtles on fence posts don't get their by themselves.


291 posted on 09/22/2004 10:40:53 PM PDT by swheats
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To: TomGuy
Rather recently gave a glowing intro to Boccardi at a recent dinner both attended.

Lou Boccardi, who was formerly head of the Always Partisan - that Boccardi?

Where's the list of those on this investigation?

292 posted on 09/22/2004 10:46:56 PM PDT by sevry
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To: Bonaparte
Bonaparte,

You forget to mention (sensitive freepers, close your eyes) that the Nolans were having sex with the dogs AND a three way "menage a troi" with "Cornfed" via their prison letters *uh, make that menage a sanc, if you count the dogs!)

This was the sickest of all possible cases. IF anyone was passing letters to or for this nutjob one can only imagine WHAT they were thinking. The prosecution were so all over the facts on this case they didnt need any outside news source getting inside HIS head, mainly because none of what was inside his head was printable or admissable in court and the same went for the Nolans.

But thank you for sharing, it's such a heartwarming story, dont you agree? (sweet smile.)
293 posted on 09/23/2004 12:51:33 AM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.net.com.com)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
WHY ISNT EVERYONE FURIOUS? This is a breaking news story and I've just read about 35 posts with us trying to put the pieces together. You'd think Mapes was sitting on the secret for weapons grade plutonium (easier to find on the internet then the facts on THIS story.)

What the hell are they hiding? This is a cover up and it goes completely to the character and credibiity of one of the main players in what is potentionally a federal crime. In fact her actions in the Prison story might have even had criminal implications in itself, and we dont have the right to know any facts??

This Prison story is NEWS and it's being covered-up.

What are the prison officials (and CBS) hiding and WHY? And what ON EARTH is the Prison's stake in this game?

Pajamadeen, it's time for an all out investigative assault!
294 posted on 09/23/2004 2:03:37 AM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.net.com.com)
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To: cyncooper

This leads me to believe that Mapes knows there is a story behind the OKC bombing.

This is VERY, VERY interesting stuff you have there, cyn.

Perhapes Mapes read the book The THird Terrorist by Jayna Davis which James Woolsey, former CIA director said is a must read and the world owes a debt of gratitude to Davis.

My guess is Mapes was going to cover-up that Iraqi exiles helped plan the OKC blast with the use of Lily Whites (McVeigh and Nichols).


295 posted on 09/23/2004 4:05:53 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: hoosiermama; Bahbah; Howlin
Like the famous James Whitcomb Riley
You're a Hoosier poet, by golly
Your limerick was great
Was it something you ate?
You have hidden talents, dear Molly !

Leni

296 posted on 09/23/2004 4:56:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal; hoosiermama; Howlin

What a nice way to start the day ... in the poets corner. Kudos, you guys.


297 posted on 09/23/2004 5:01:15 AM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
I am not sure, but I thought I heard it said on Fox News that the prisoner was a "suspected" white supremacist.

If this is true and had been cone by Brit Hume, the media would be all over the story.
298 posted on 09/23/2004 5:02:30 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: sevry
For more on Boccardi, click on this thread. I posted a couple of things there.
299 posted on 09/23/2004 5:03:28 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Dan apologized. Let's move on, please. Kerry's job is at stake here. Don't you have any feelings for the needy?


300 posted on 09/23/2004 5:04:45 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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