Posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:28 PM PDT by yonif
The bombing and bitching will NOT cease if Israel does. They'll keep on bitching and bombing, and find another scapegoat - three guesses who it'll be, and the first two don't count.
Thank you President Musharraf, I'm sure it's poverty and illiteracy, the product of your culture.
I'll change my tag line in your honor.
This is such bullcrap. If terrorism is caused by poverty, then how is it that all of the world's top terrorists were raised in the lap of luxury (with most of them attending college in the United States of America)?
Sorry...it's greed, not need, that fuels evil.
..."..."I always say the root cause is political disputes, poverty and illiteracy,"...
'political disputes' = Infidels own all the good stuff.
'poverty' = Learn bomb-making, suicide missions, kidnapping, and beheading and be stupid enough to expect that you'll always have a career.
'illiteracy' = Teach youth all they need to know in Madrassas. Follow the Quran--submit to the Elders and Clerics.
Dunno about bin Laden's rationalizations, but you can find some dumb-ass American 'splanations in this month's Atlantic Monthly's cover article by James Fallows (who has been against the intervention since day one), "Bush's Lost Year." Fallows blames the U.S., and, of course, backed up by all kinds of "intelligence" and "diplomatic" officers, for Islamic Jihad for the same reasons as Musharaff: U.S. support for Isreal and islamic poverty.
Dumb is as dumb says and does. Fallow's logic is that since the US has invaded Iraq, the US has increased opposition to it, and strengthened, thereby that opposition. At the same time, Fallows asserts that the cause of said opposition is US support for Isreal and US intervention in the Mid-East. That is, stronger US support for Isreal and greater US intervention in the Mid-East is, by Fallow's logic, to have created greater opposition and a higher risk of more attacks. That is, less US support for Isreal and less US intervention in the mid-east would lessen the threat.
Dead, worry less about what the Jihadists are saying and worry more about their apologists back home, such as James Fallows.
Great point.
Bodansky made a similar observation in his book about bin Laden, and his devolution into madness.
Remember this guy, Musharraf? Went to London School of Economics... SHUT UP AND STOP LYING, YOU TERRORIST APPEASER!
"There is unanimous sympathy for the Palestinians against the Israelis. And the United States is seen or perceived as an Israeli supporter and totally against Muslims," Musharraf said. "So I think this is the one which needs to be resolved immediately."
Here is straight from the shoulder advice from America's most critically important ally who is actally waging war against terrorists and dodging assination attempts for doing so. He is telling us our support of Israel is making his position untenable and the posters on this thread reply, so what, we will support Israel even at the cost of America's interests.
If we have to chose between Pakistan and Israel, the choice is clear, assuming we really want to protect America from a terrorist nuclear attack. The posters here will court that risk to support Israel. I would not.
This sounds like a diplomatic attempt at highway robbery. "Give us all your money or we'll behead your citizins." It's also a load of bull. When do these countries step up to the plate and start taking care of their own people? The world seems to have appointed us the world's ATM machine and they're all using stolen credit cards.
nahhh- it is a lie! 9-11 is-slum terrorists were well educated and had money flooding into their bank accounts by the 100,000$
from overseas.
more bs from pakistanis.
Once an Arab, always an Arab I guess. Get a clue, Musharraf. It's not our job to address your poverty, nor your business if we support Israel.
Sad that we are constantly forced to do business with people like this. The Founders had it right when they counciled to make our treaties few and our business our own.
Exactly...
Poverty one of the causes of terrorism? Right... The richest countries in the world are moslem, and they're the ones that fund terrorism.
And the US support of Israel being another root cause? OK, please explain how this relates to the terrorism against buddists and hindus and animists in asia and africa.
Yonif, you hit it right on the head. "Poverty" and "US support of Israel" are simply convenient excuses, as well as convenient scapegoats for the rich muslem and arab countries. It's important for them to set up a distraction for their own repressed people. Right out of Orwell's "1984."
Mark
One mans "straight shoulder" is another mans backstabber. If Pakistan was not under "friendly" military occupation, the "Islamic bomb" would be going of in American cities. This war is a tad bit deeper than you seem to think. Before we even set foot in Afganistan, we set a .44 Mag at Musharraf's temple and said "do you feel lucky, 'friend'? He straightened his shoulders and said "HaBeBe", my best friend, where have you been all these years!!! Do not forget that when Pakistan announced the completion of their first sucessful nuclear tests that they announced it as the "Islamic Bomb", not the Pakistani Bomb.
I for one am very glad the adults are back in charge of the country. Clintoon and his cronies would have got us nuked. Bush plays poker Texas style, with a pistol in his lap.
Bingo! We have a winner!
From me to Musharrif: Get bent you effing terrorist enabler.
Thank you for restating my point.
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