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Atlantan Challenged CBS Documents First (Buckhead)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | Sunday, September 19, 2004 | Tom Baxter

Posted on 09/18/2004 8:51:41 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: Crazieman
Why the hell are these media morons writing as if you need some sort of twenty year certification course to determine that these look like obvious forgeries?

Because most of the media morons, as you put it, are under 30 and have no idea what a typewritten memo would look like.

Nor do they have sufficient curiosity to find out...

41 posted on 09/18/2004 9:20:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Crazieman

Hey, two sides of the coin:

-In hindsight, it is pathetically obvious that they were fake.

-At the time, Buckhead was a real molodyets to pick them out so quickly.


42 posted on 09/18/2004 9:21:09 PM PDT by bass fiddler
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To: Verginius Rufus

True. Let the story play itself out.


43 posted on 09/18/2004 9:21:55 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: John Jorsett
If I'd been commissioned to produce forgeries, I would never have done it with a word processor, because I'd never think CBS would fall for them in a million years.

I've thought since the start that it may not have been fraud or a hoax but was made a joke or a prank because it was so obvious.

That it appears to be a person with some mental problems the absurdity of the it makes sense as well.

44 posted on 09/18/2004 9:23:10 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: kristinn

He's certainly got my vote for SCOTUS. Great article, thanks for posting!


45 posted on 09/18/2004 9:26:38 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: bass fiddler; Buckhead
He*l!

I'm kicking myself for not figuring out immediately that he's a north Atlantan !

Heck, anybody could have figgered out they were fakes. 8<)
46 posted on 09/18/2004 9:26:55 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: kristinn

Great article and surprisingly pretty unbiased.


47 posted on 09/18/2004 9:27:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: kristinn
On Democratic blogs, meanwhile, questions were being raised about how "Buckhead" could have analyzed the typefaces so quickly, and whether the questionable documents could have been a Republican plant.

I think that anyone over 35, those who used typewriters anyway, would gaze upon those documents and there would be something slightly nagging about them.

If that person was a FReeper he would approach the Viacom EYE with a jaundiced eye. The FReeper, quite open to the possibility of fraud in this case by considering the source, would in many instances see the fraud easily and quickly.

48 posted on 09/18/2004 9:33:05 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: js1138
I argued for several hours that proportional typewriters existed, as did the small "th".

True, but my experiences in producing documents in that period would have led me to conclude that the chances of either of those things being present in a backwater National Guard post would be nil. I was working at a Navy facility with lots of advanced stuff and we didn't have anything like that. I visited many Navy facilities/commands/ships and they were using plain-vanilla Selectrics or older electric/manual typewriters. Nobody would ever have felt a need for anything fancier for doing routine office paperwork. I'm sure that that wouldn't have been enough for the "Dan's right" people, however. They've even been clinging on to the preposterous possibilty that Killian was using a Selectric Composer, despite evidence that they're so complex to use that Killian would have to have been insane to employ it for a memo. Not to mention that no one has recollected that the unit had a Composer. Not to mention that it's been conclusively demonstrated that even the Composer can't produce an exact copy the way Word can.

49 posted on 09/18/2004 9:33:37 PM PDT by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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To: kristinn; Buckhead
I was watching some show the other day that was talking about bloggers and internet activists etc. They were slanting things trying to say "they are a bunch of unprofessional people with no checks and balances"

I immediately yelled at my tv "we might not have checks and balances but then again apparently neither does CBS...if they do, a lot of good it did them..."

In reality the only checks and balances in place are ala CBS vs FOX or whoever VS the internet.

Internal 'checks'...yeah whatever.

50 posted on 09/18/2004 9:34:41 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: SlowBoat407

"They're trying to cover up for the fact that a bunch of twenty and thirty-year veterans in a print medium didn't catch it."

...and didn't WANT to catch it!


51 posted on 09/18/2004 9:37:04 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: kristinn
Great article.

Great guy.

Makes me so proud to be a freeper.
52 posted on 09/18/2004 9:40:49 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: RBMN
ANYBODY old enough to have used an old Royal, or an IBM typewriter once in awhile, as I did, would have figured this out, looking at the PDFs from CBS.

I also knew immediately. It's just too obvious. I have no special expertise, and I was late to the party, so I can't take credit for helping to expose the fraud. Kudos to Buckhead, and all the others who have done that. I knew before I read their posts, and I'm sure many others did too. Regardless of what CBS and Dan Rather say, they knew too.

53 posted on 09/18/2004 9:43:29 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: kristinn

BTTT


54 posted on 09/18/2004 9:43:40 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: rface; Buckhead
Well, now that Buckhead has been "outed" as a generally able and honest guy, I am even more pleased to know him. B -- did you know I am planning to put my neck on the chopping block to challenge the FEC, in-your-face?

Check out the second link, below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "The Manifesto of Pukin Dog"

If you haven't already joined the anti-CFR effort, please click here.

55 posted on 09/18/2004 9:46:20 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: patriciaruth
L.A. Times is still trashing Buckhead today in its newspaper.

I don't want to go there. Since you're already soiled, could you tell us what they're saying?

56 posted on 09/18/2004 9:47:17 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
GA just rocks

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie!

57 posted on 09/18/2004 9:49:43 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: kristinn

MEDIA ETHICS PROJECT SEEKS FCC RULING AGAINST CBS NEWS FOR RATHERGATE


Media Ethics Project (“MEP”) of New York today petitioned the FCC to sanction CBS News and its parent organization, Viacom, Inc., for its recent broadcast of news reports based on forged documents.

In announcing the FCC filing, MEP Chairman William L. Whitely stated: “Most people familiar with Dan Rather’s reports have seen solid evidence from various credible sources showing the documents to be forged. Yet, day in and day out, CBS has stubbornly continued to maintain that the memos are authentic. This supremely arrogant conduct violates the public trust and FCC rules and policies. Viacom cannot be allowed to flaunt the Commission’s rules in this manner. ”

MEP seeks a ruling by the FCC finding that the deliberate actions of CBS and Viacom maintaining the authenticity of the documents, constitute broadcasting of falsified, faked, distorted or staged news reports in violation of Commission policies. MEP is asking the FCC to sanction Viacom including imposing fines and ordering forfeiture of one or more broadcast licenses .

Mr. Whitely added that, “This whole episode must be regarded as a remarkable failure of management. It is truly sad that the proud traditions of professionalism of CBS News, the division built by the likes of Morrow, Severeid, Reasoner, Mudd and Cronkite, have been allowed to slowly fade away. In their place is an organization where unprincipled ego, bias, negligence, partisanship and vindictiveness apparently determine the setting of management policy. Such changes are not in the best interest of CBS, the CBS affiliates and CBS shareholders, nor, most certainly, are they in the public interest as well. Staying to this course, the House that Paley Built will likely become the Network that Rather Wrecked.”

MEP has asked that the FCC expedite its consideration of the group’s Petition for Declaratory Ruling against CBS News.

See a full copy of the MEP Petition for Declaratory Ruling at http://mediaethicsproject.blogspot.com/ or www.mediaethics.8k.com

With MEP's filing, the FCC now has a formal Petition to review requesting that CBS be found guilty for violating Commission policy prohibiting the broadcasting of falsified, faked, distorted or staged news reports as contrary to the public interest.

All interested parties will now be able to contact the FCC to request that it take immediate action on the MEDIA ETHICS PROJECT Petition For Declaratory Ruling Against CBS News.

FCC Contact Information:

Chairman Michael K. Powell: Michael.Powell@fcc.gov ---
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: Kathleen.Abernathy@fcc.gov --- Commissioner Michael J. Copps: Michael.Copps@fcc.gov ---
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin: KJMWEB@fcc.gov ---
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: Jonathan.Adelstein@fcc.gov


58 posted on 09/18/2004 9:54:40 PM PDT by tvn
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To: maui_hawaii
I was watching some show the other day that was talking about bloggers and internet activists etc. They were slanting things trying to say "they are a bunch of unprofessional people with no checks and balances"

To the contrary, it is the MSM that has enjoyed the ability to pick and choose the news that is "fit for print" with no means of checks or balances. It is the internet that finally provides a voice to the rest of us. Their monopoly is reaching its twilight.

59 posted on 09/18/2004 9:55:06 PM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; stockpirate

ping


60 posted on 09/18/2004 9:58:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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