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Irreligious studies: Church hasn't prepared students for liberal university religion courses
WORLD ^ | 9/25/04 | John Dawson

Posted on 09/17/2004 12:24:52 PM PDT by Caleb1411

With just one semester of coursework at the University of Texas completed, Blake Helm stepped unwittingly into a religious minefield. Coming from a theologically conservative background, Mr. Helm had signed up for Professor L. Michael White's "Rise of Christianity" course, only to find out in the first class that the subject matter was the fall of Christianity. "He started out with, ‘Why aren't they [the Gospels] in chronological order?' and went on from attack to attack," Mr. Helm said.

Mr. Helm dropped the class after one day, but others stay on: Some, Mr. Helm says, "won't think about questioning what [Professor White] says because he's got a Ph.D." Greg Grooms, director of The Probe Center—a Christian resource library and campus hangout—says, "I'm consistently finding fundamentalists who have blundered into his classroom and get burned. It's not Sunday school. I ask them why they wanted to take his class in the first place."

The answer, Mr. Grooms says, is often harmless enough—many young Christian students just want to take a Bible class while in college. The story of students shocked and awed by Bible-criticizing religious studies professors is not unique to Austin, Tex. Across the country, university and seminary students are being taught about the Bible by academics who doubt and often are antagonistic toward traditional teaching about what the Bible says and who Jesus Christ is.

California-based Westar Institute funds the now infamous Jesus Seminar, which claims that Jesus said only 18 percent of what the New Testament says He said. Westar fellows are religious studies professors at public universities like Tennessee State, Oregon State, Wisconsin, several California State schools, Southwest Missouri State, Minnesota, Ball State, Montana and, of course, the University of Texas, home of Mr. White. Even liberal theologians see the flaw in Jesus Seminar methodology, with its scholars choosing colored beads to rank the authenticity of each of Jesus' sayings recorded in the Gospels.

Walter Wink, a former Jesus Seminar speaker, disassociated himself from the project in 1994, writing that "scholars who believe Jesus was like a cynic philosopher will tend to reject as nonhistorical any data that suggests otherwise. . . . The picture that is emerging of Jesus is remarkably like that of a tweedy professor interested in studying Scripture." Mr. White, though, says, "I don't buy the Jesus Seminar, but at least they go at things in a scholarly way." Which is to say the Jesus Seminar works from the presumption of biblical falsehood and accepts as truth only what it can substantiate from other sources.

While members of the Westar Institute and the Jesus Seminar don't dominate the religious studies establishment, their basic tenets are pervasive. At the University of Virginia, the professor who teaches a class titled "In Defense of Sin" calls the crucifixion a social wellspring of anti-Semitism. Bart Ehrman chairs the University of North Carolina's religious studies program and teaches that the New Testament is a flawed work, distorted by the orthodox in the first centuries after Jesus' life.

In Texas, Mr. White disputes the validity of much of the book of Acts and spoke last year at a conference titled "Fundamentalism's Threat to Democracy." Mr. White's critique goes deeper than its sensational title. He has made the New Testament his life's work, from the time he earned his Ph.D. from Yale in 1982, through teaching religion at Yale, the University of Indiana, and Oberlin College. In class and in print, he alleges that "Acts is a document with its own agenda presenting an idealized picture of the early church," and furthermore that the world described in Acts is far removed from historical reality.

Mr. White's teachings are a stumbling block to many Christians who enter his class looking for a basic theology course. Many young Christians find themselves ill prepared to handle his sharp charges, because he comes through on his vow: "I promise you that I'm going to say something that you're going to say, ‘That's not the way I learned it.'"

That can be useful for students who are well prepared and have (or make) the time to research his claims. Gene Fojtik was such a student: "His class forced me to deal with questions. Was my faith based in mathematical facts, or did it rest in Christ? . . . I don't have the certainty that I came in with, but it's deeper now."

Unlike some college courses, Mr. White's combination of new teachings and combustive content produces volatile reactions. The professor describes times when he shoots holes in students' deeply held convictions as "uh-oh" or "aha" moments. The reaction, he says, is plainly visible. "It happens as soon as it sounds like a version that they didn't grow up with," he says. Mr. White claims what he teaches reflects what's taught in every other secular university.

Mr. White and other prominent secular Bible scholars often use a "neutrality" defense when challenged about their attacks on the Bible: They say they are historians, not theologians, and their critical approach is what professors at a secular university must follow.

Robert Yarbrough, professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, disagrees. Secularists, he argues, are "working from a faith background also. They have a constellation of opinions that inform their views." One is that today's secularist professors are wise enough to sit in judgment of the testimony of Christian conscience and of 2,000 years of affirmation. Another common article of faith, evident in the work of North Carolina's Mr. Ehrman, is that the truth or falsehood of resurrection isn't even an issue: He assumes it's a lie and tries to determine where the lie originated.

Is the dominance of the Whites and Ehrmans inevitable? Not if you look at the religious studies department at the University of Virginia, which Thomas Jefferson hoped would become the field marshal of liberal Christology. Mr. Jefferson bucked custom by placing a library, not a chapel, at the most prominent place on campus. A Yale-educated historical scholar chairs the school's religious studies department and teaches the program's historical Jesus classes.

But Jeffersonian influence can hardly be felt in the teaching of John Millbank, the leading voice in a movement of radical orthodoxy. Nor would Mr. Jefferson, who called Christ's claims of divinity "rubbish," agree with other professors in Virginia's religion department who, according to campus minister Greg Thompson, are amenable and even faithful to Christ.

"That's unbelievable here at Mr. Jefferson's university," said Mr. Thompson, director of the Virginia chapter of Reformed University Fellowship (RUF). "They're helping students wrestle with important issues." Mr. Thompson said about one-fourth of RUF participants at Virginia are taking a significant amount of coursework in the religious studies department. Some face challenges to biblical historicity, but Mr. Thompson said most find a hospitable but challenging environment.

One reason college Christians are stupefied when they enter a challenging classroom like Mr. White's in Austin is that churches have dropped the ball. High-school kids are unprepared and even unaware of the debates they might walk into on a college campus, says Daniel Doriani, pastor and recent New Testament professor at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis.

"Youth groups are bent on evangelism and fun, which is good," he says. "But a large number of youth workers haven't gone to seminary. They wouldn't know how to address" key questions of New Testament historicity. Mr. Doriani says churches around universities are aware of these problems and address them as best they can. But many students, he says, are involved only in para-church organizations like Campus Crusade or InterVarsity, never making a connection with a local church.

Sometimes students have to take the extra initiative. Over a semester, Thursdays at Trudy's became somewhat of a tradition for Michael Stewart, who completed a University of Texas classics degree in December. In 2000, as a freshman, Mr. Stewart and two others used the Austin Tex-Mex joint as a fallback position to talk over chips and salsa about the teachings they were hearing in Mr. White's class. By forming a group of three similarly minded believers, they were able to give themselves the support the church did not. "I guess we viewed it as a challenge," he says.

Still, Mr. Stewart concludes, Mr. White at times "would present points that I didn't know what to do with. I would have to go into my room and go back in my mind to the Resurrection. I can start here. I believe in this. He couldn't take that away from me." —•


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KEYWORDS: academicbias; campusbias; christianstudents; collegebias; diversity; education; educrats; highereducation; jesusseminar; universitybias
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1 posted on 09/17/2004 12:24:52 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: BibChr; rhema; logos

Ping


2 posted on 09/17/2004 12:27:31 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411

I have never been able to figure out why people who don't believe in anything are called on to teach and expound on matters of faith; nor why they would even want to.


3 posted on 09/17/2004 12:28:56 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Caleb1411

They're too weird for Walter Wink? He denies the existence of Satan and demons--says that Jesus was just catering to the superstitious views of the masses when he threw demons out of people.

I have no idea why someone would want to take a class on the Bible and Christianity at a public college unless they're completely uninformed.


4 posted on 09/17/2004 12:29:44 PM PDT by ahayes
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To: Caleb1411

PhD = Piled higher and Deeper


5 posted on 09/17/2004 12:30:57 PM PDT by baldie (self-inflicted)
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To: ahayes
I have no idea why someone would want to take a class on the Bible and Christianity at a public college unless they're completely uninformed.

Me neither.

6 posted on 09/17/2004 12:33:55 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: ahayes

this is why people read the DaVinci code as if it's non
NON-fiction.


7 posted on 09/17/2004 12:35:10 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece:excuses are like forged Bush guard memos;everybody's got one.)
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To: Caleb1411

It's a crime that a young person would be allowed by his parents and spiritual elders to walk into a "religion" class at a major university unprepared. It's just a crime.


8 posted on 09/17/2004 12:35:20 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Caleb1411
Most parents send their children to college so that when they graduate they can "get a good job." Parents are often surprised at what they get in return for their investment.

"No one can serve two masters." The purpose of a true education is to help a man to know, love and serve God in this life and be happy forever with him in the next. Ignorance or repudiation of the true purpose of education can only lead to disaster. "The road to life is narrow."

9 posted on 09/17/2004 12:35:58 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Caleb1411

Hating God and promoting the hatred and criticism of all things christian is very in vogue with college professors like this.


10 posted on 09/17/2004 12:37:14 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Caleb1411

The Jesus Seminar has been largely discredited. Using literary criticism as a critical guide to the complexity of sacred scripture was fraught with suppositions that made JS conclusions so shaky that it collapsed under its own internal contradictions. Of course, the Holy Spirit may have had something to do with it, too...


11 posted on 09/17/2004 12:38:24 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Caleb1411

I must say I don't see any problem...

If you cannot argue rationally about your faith, it's not worth much!


12 posted on 09/17/2004 12:41:24 PM PDT by Pitiricus
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To: Caleb1411
All this will have to be revised anyway because of the new Gospel of St. Daniel that was just faxed to CBS revealed by divine inspiration.
13 posted on 09/17/2004 12:44:48 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (cong rec 27.3.86 jk speech doubleplusungood malreported cambodia rectify)
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To: Pitiricus

The problem with it is the misrepresentation of the class. Call it what it is: "Anti-Christianity 101". Let's see how many students take the class. And let's see how many Christian apologists sign up for the class to discuss subjects with the professor. I bet the professor wouldn't like it if a few Christian apologists and true believers took his class. The professor wants to prey on the weak in faith where he has the upper hand.


14 posted on 09/17/2004 12:52:38 PM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: KarlInOhio

you mean faxed from CBS to The Jesus Seminar...


15 posted on 09/17/2004 12:53:34 PM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: Caleb1411

Thank God for the "Mr. Stewarts" who are founded on the ressurrection.

Dawson is right. Let's hope the church world listens.

I suspect many churches have shallow pastors who couldn't cope with the challenges of the Mr. Whites of UT either. In spite of the fact that the "Whites" are wrong they gain ground by default.


16 posted on 09/17/2004 12:54:23 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Pitiricus
Rational argument cannot be used to uphold Faith. Apples and Oranges.

Personally, I think it is a shame that these radical atheists are allowed to teach Religion courses. Do they have Creationists teaching Geology and Biology classes? "Hey kids, I bet you all think the world is really old, and that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago! Ha! That's all bunk! Let me tell you, the Grand Canyon is not very old at all ..."

No? They expect scientists who base their views on a material universe to teach those things? OK. But how come Christians aren't teaching the Christian courses? Hmmmmmm?

17 posted on 09/17/2004 12:57:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I have two words for John Kerry: "YYYEEEEAAARRGGGHHHH!!!!")
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To: TheGeezer
The Historical Jesus: A Middle Eastern View video is an excellent counter to the Jesus Seminar propaganda one finds in Newsweek and Time. It's put out by an interdenominational group, and would make a good addition to any church's library.
18 posted on 09/17/2004 1:29:59 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Ares does not spare the good, but the bad.)
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To: TheGeezer
The Jesus Seminar has been largely discredited. Using literary criticism as a critical guide to the complexity of sacred scripture was fraught with suppositions that made JS conclusions so shaky that it collapsed under its own internal contradictions.


My best friend wrote the following regarding the JS:

The Jesus Seminar: Their Qualifications

Here are some figures on the Jesus Seminar Scholars.
Printed in the back of their book "The Five Gospels," are the names of the 76 "Fellows" of the Jesus Seminar. Their names, their current positions, and their educational backgrounds are listed here, and from this list we can learn a whole LOT about the Jesus Seminar.

Of the 76 Fellows:

41 do not teach in the field of their training.
16 of these 41 don't teach at ALL
9 of these 16 are NOT even on a faculty someplace
of the 7 that ARE on faculties but who do NOT teach,
4 are Deans of various Nonacademic departments
in various schools (i.e., Dean of Student Life,
Dean of Admissions, etc.)
2 are Directors of various programs (Field and Continuing Education)
1 is Secretary to an Academic Dean


25 of the 41 who do not teach in the field of their training DO teach in some other field ... sometimes related to their field, but sometimes not. 9 of these teach in Junior Colleges, Community, County, and City Colleges, and one in a Private Senior High School. 7 teach Philosophy, 5 teach History (various fields), 4 teach various languages, 6 teach English/Literature, 3 teach ENTIRELY outside their fields (Math, Business, and Music).

Of the 35 who are actually teaching in their fields of training,
19 are NOT in Tenure-track positions, 7 are Assistant Professors in Tenure-track positions (3 have since NOT been granted tenure due to various reasons), and of the rest, all but 8 are in VERY MINOR departments of Theology and Biblical Criticism (i.e. ... BIG fish in small ponds).

Of the 76 Fellows, *** 9 *** do NOT have earned doctorate degrees, and 4 have doctorates but NOT in the field of Theology or Biblical Criticism (one in History, two in classical Philosophy, 1 in English).
2 have earned doctorates that are NOT academic doctorates, (DMin). Many have honorary doctorates (no big deal, so do I), and of the 9 who don't have earned doctorates, they ALL now have honorary degrees.

Only a VERY FEW of the JS Scholars are at major Graduate Faculties.
VERY TELLING are those MAJOR faculties that are NOT represented among the Jesus Seminar: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Duke, Union, Union in Virginia, General in New York, Chicago, Boston, Drew, Oxford, Cambridge, American Catholic University, the Pontifical Institutes.

Of PARTICULAR NOTE is that MOST of these MAJOR faculties ARE in the backgrounds of the Jesus Seminar scholars. In other words, these guys studied at these TOP FLIGHT Ivy League institutes, and yet NONE of the Jesus Seminar Scholars TEACH at these institutions.

Of the 6,000 plus members of the liberal Society of Biblical Literature (SBL), only 72 are members of the Jesus Seminar, which means less than 2% of the SBL are members. Adding the much larger conservative grouping of scholars and the SBL membership together, then we see the Jesus Seminar represents far less than 1% of Biblical scholars.

Just a few things to make you go "hmmmmmmmmmmm"
19 posted on 09/17/2004 1:32:41 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: ClearCase_guy

But then you cannot have a seminar on the Bible either in college or outside...

I have no problem whatsoever debating religion as long as the discussion is rational...

I don't suscribe to the sola fides of Luther...


20 posted on 09/17/2004 1:33:12 PM PDT by Pitiricus
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