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Posted on 09/14/2004 9:11:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
There are Reports that the Swift Boat Vets have new evidence that prove Kerry lied, primarily old Military documents.
Now given the fact that the BUSH docs have been proven to be forgeries by anyone with a few brain cells firing.. yet CBS refuses to back off of them, keeping it in the headlines... I am starting to wonder.
Is the purpose of the 60 Min. II report not so much to bash Bush, but to be used as an undermining of these new documents?
After all its not a hard argument, well the last batch were fake, why should we believe these suddenly new found docs any more than the ones that attacked Bush?
This is the only logical reason I can come up with for Rather and CBS to continue to carry water on these obvious fakes is so that they can be used as a counter argument against any new documents that may come to life attacking Kerry.
Just something to chew on.
Nope
I don't think so. First, they didn't think that they'd be caught trying to pawn off the fake documents. Second, how could they have known that the Swift Boat Vets were going to produce new Kerry documents a week later?
The problem with the Rather Forgeries is that they are easily shown to be phony. The Swiftboat Vets will not offer up any documentation that is not provably true. That's just there M.O. As far as I know, none of O'Neill and company's claims have been discredited.
No.
The new SBVFT docs are straight from the US Navy Archives.
The AP has them too. If they can be spun, the Kerry Nuance
Team will spin them. But their authenticity won't be
questioned.
However, sure, anything from the DNC, Kerry camp and
Pravda Press will be deeply scrutinized. With the
Bush-AWOL flop and Kitty Kelly flush, any "October
Surprise" against Bush now has much higher standards
to meet.
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Dems aren't that bright. Devious? Yes. Bright? No!!!
Exactly, they were obvious and easily detected forgeries, and they are Kept in the headlines not so much by Bloggers attacking them, but by CBS and Rather refusing to admit they are fakes.... IF CBS admitted they were fakes, story would turn to who gave them to CBS... but would not be so much fresh blood in the water.
Would the Dems know that other docs existed out there that could hurt their candidate? Surely they have to know, as they know not all of Kerry's records have been released. So release some blatant forgeries... keep them in peoples consciousness and when more "old" documents show up making Kerry look bad, the argument about just more fakes (whether true or not) is one that will exist in folks minds...
It does not matter what the truth was, this "perception" and spin can be used.
That's twisted logic.
CBS states the documents are real, even though they have been proven forgeries.
The very first time forged military documents ever entered the mainstream realm was with this story.
If this story had never come out in the media, the idea that Kerry had forged military documents would be viewed as preposterous and ignored.
CBS memos inadvertently gives credibility to SBVT.
It's the ultimate perfect storm.
I, for one, ignored the Kerry's false military records threads until this one came out first, and I'm a die-hard partisan.
Ah, the old "shoot myself in the foot so the other guy doesn't shoot me" trick.
Nah.
It is a diversion but not a deliberate diversion. Stop looking the gift horse in the mouth.
If Kerry blew his brains out some here would be looking for a RAT trick.
If this is a pre-emptive defense, it has failed because this story has sucked the air out of the Kerry Campaign. I don't think that there's enough time (till election day) to do CPR.
I don't think it's specifically designed to counter the Swiftboat Vets. I DO think the new focus on Bush's National Guard service is an attempt to prevent the Swiftboat Vets from gaining traction.
Kerry has stated many times the non-sequitur that if the Swift Boat Vets are going to question his Vietnam service, then we need to go after Bush's Guard service.
I don't doubt that the new emphasis on Bush's Guard record is a result of Kerry's campaign staff shakeup and bringing in attack dogs like Carville and Begala. However, it's not timed around a specific Swift Boat Vet attack. It's designed to take Vietnam off the table entirely in the campaign.
No, we were supposed to buy the memos without question thus scoring a big hit against Bush. Every day these memos are the talk Kerry is incapable of scoring hits on Bush, since he's the guy behind he needs to score hits. Bush doesn't need to score hits so something like this works well, just put off the Swifties until after this thing dies down.
Hillary Clinton finally offs the Frenchurian Candidate.
No. Rather is just an idiot.
Do you have a better explanation as to what happened to them?
I can think of other reasons. The one you posit will surely be attempted by the stupid DEM talking heads, but it's such a lame comparison that nobody will take it.
In spite of the brave front that The Dan and his gang are showing, circling the wagons, we can be sure that they're all puking from stress in the toilet over Rathergate.
Yes, it is a diversion.
You are to view Kerry's questionable record as a wash since lies have been made up about Bush.
Also Kerry has NO VISION so it takes the pressure off of him to create a VISION that he would have to stick to. All Kerry does is CRITICISE Bush because he has NO VISION and if he does, he doesn't want YOU to know what it is.
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There is no way that this is some bank shot intended to affect other documents that might be coming down the pike. This was a direct assault on Bush for the purpose of discrediting Bush.