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1 posted on 09/13/2004 4:15:44 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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See-BS News in now forced to report accounts of NY Times and Newsweek investigating their own shoddy reporting..LMAO!!

What a comedown for the Tiffany Network, all the way down to partisan hacks.

2 posted on 09/13/2004 4:18:26 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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Voice of Dan Rather, music playing:

"Free Republic honors so-called, fallen heroes. CBS News was once a mighty news organization that has now become synonymous with Weekly World News."

3 posted on 09/13/2004 4:20:19 PM PDT by ServesURight
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So the CBS website is more suspicious of the documents than CBS News is?


4 posted on 09/13/2004 4:21:38 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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Mr. Blather also mentioned a "memo" acquired by USA Today that bolstered CBS's case. But it was too small to read and he did not read its contents.

I wonder if the same dem is shopping his forged documents to USA Today too?


6 posted on 09/13/2004 4:22:43 PM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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So, is this from CBS, or AP?

Whoever it is, is attacking Rather's credibility in a gentle manner.

I'm amazed that they can't use a bit of judgement and just say THE D@MN THINGS ARE FAKE!

8 posted on 09/13/2004 4:22:51 PM PDT by narby (What's the provenance, Dan?)
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They're starting to crack. I still expect the house of cards to collapse tomorrow or Wednesday. They can't sustain the hoax in the face of opposition from other MSM.


9 posted on 09/13/2004 4:22:51 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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WHERE DID THOSE MEMOS COME FROM? THE PHOTO CBSNEWS WILL NOT PUBLISH: DAN RATHER CAPTURED ON SURVEILLANCE VIDEO

17 posted on 09/13/2004 4:28:09 PM PDT by drpix
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raised "th" superscript

Blatant lie... the "th" they're talking about was NOT "superscript", it was no higher than the other letters on the page. And it was in exactly the right position to be struck with a special "th" key made for a typewriter.

20 posted on 09/13/2004 4:28:45 PM PDT by Tamzee (Free Republic .... Partisan Pajama People)
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Mr. Rather's story appears to be circling the drain...
21 posted on 09/13/2004 4:29:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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This is very significant!!!

As an old CBSer, trust me, this shows that bosses at Black Rock are trying to backpedal on the story, while Rather is trying to keep it at full steam ahead.

This was never posted without approval of some highly placed people at CBS.

Rather will go ballistic when he sees this. Like Captain Queeg, he will rant over disloyalty, incompetent junior officers/staffers.

This is going to get deeper before it goes away.
23 posted on 09/13/2004 4:30:23 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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Dan Rather's mistake was addressing this again on tonight's broadcast. His only chance was to ignore the situation and let his Friday comments stand - and that was a long shot. By addressing it tonight, he has set the precedent that he is required to respond to questions. That means this thing doesn't die. Buh bye, Dan.
25 posted on 09/13/2004 4:31:43 PM PDT by Pete
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This is laughable. Bush's NG career occurred thirty years ago. CBS decided these were good documents because they refer to dates that coincide with dates that were already known about Bush's career.

So if I create a memo from FDR saying he knew in advance about the Dec 7th sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, my reference to Dec 7th would make ny document more reliable?

I guess the fact the documents in question accurately stated Bush was in the National Guard was also supportive.

26 posted on 09/13/2004 4:31:45 PM PDT by Williams
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I'm afraid this is coming to a head too soon.

The best-case scenario is that CBS stonewalls for about two weeks, after which the other networks break with big stories about the forgery. Most people who watched the 60 Minutes report don't yet know that there's a serious controversy, and will be stunned when they see the proof of forgery become widely accepted. If that happens in the next few days, there will be time for the Kerry campaign to recover, or at least to avoid responsibility. If that happens in two weeks, there will be no chance of recovery.

Partisan political operatives would have trickled out the revelations for a while, letting the story build and build. The web is just too fast to milk it.

27 posted on 09/13/2004 4:31:48 PM PDT by Physicist
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Journalistic ethics violated by CBS:

Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.

Journalists should:

Admit mistakes and correct them promptly.

Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.

Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing.

Identify sources whenever feasible. The public is entitled to as much information as possible on sources' reliability.

Always question sources motives before promising anonymity. Clarify conditions attached to any promise made in exchange for information. Keep promises.

Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.

Recognize a special obligation to ensure that the public's business is conducted in the open and that government records are open to inspection.

Recognize that private people have a greater right to control information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need can justify intrusion into anyones privacy.

Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived.

Remain free of associations and activities that may compromise integrity or damage credibility.

Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and shun secondary employment, political involvement, public office and service in community organizations if they compromise journalistic integrity.

Disclose unavoidable conflicts.

Encourage the public to voice grievances against the news media.

Abide by the same high standards to which they hold others.

28 posted on 09/13/2004 4:32:13 PM PDT by John Thornton
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CBS is now preaching to the ignorant and the Bush-Haters. Anyone who cares about integrity in the media has concluded that CBS has involved itself in perpetrating a fraud, but CBS, in all its arrogance, is now preaching to the choir -- refusing to admit it was taken in (or was trying to take in the voters), and providing more fodder for those who already have an irrational hatred of Bush. They had planned this "new revelation" to be a big splash against Bush, and it isn't. They've spent more time defending themselves on this story than they have bludgeoning Bush with the bogus documents.

Any new "experts" CBS brings in to authenticate the documents are themselves frauds, but to the foaming leftwingers in CBS' diminishing audience, they're adding credence to CBS' propaganda.

29 posted on 09/13/2004 4:32:28 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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Hang in there Dan!!!

Keep on denying what is no longer in dispute.

Let's make this election a referendum about whether or not folks believe the documents are forgeries.


30 posted on 09/13/2004 4:32:55 PM PDT by Diago
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CBS News said last week the memos it received about President Bush's service in the Air National Guard came from "solid sources."

it names "a disgruntled former Guard officer" as a principal source for CBS, noting "he suffered two nervous breakdowns" and "unsuccessfully sued for medical expenses."

These two sentences spokes volumes about their integrity and professionalism.

31 posted on 09/13/2004 4:33:24 PM PDT by Popman
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CBS said Monday it relied on an analysis of the contents of the documents themselves to determine their authenticity. The new papers are in line with what is known about the president's service assignments and dates, CBS said. For instance, CBS said, the official record shows that Mr. Bush was suspended from flying on Aug. 1, 1972. That date matches the one on a memo given to CBS News, ordering that Mr. Bush be suspended.

Gee, a forger would never be able to find out that August 1, 1972 date, would he?

33 posted on 09/13/2004 4:34:43 PM PDT by John Thornton
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Attn: President & CEO Viacom
Attn: Dan Rather
Attn: Ms Maples, Produceer 60 minutes

Your attendance is requested at an FCC hearing to discuss the following:
1.) Suspension of CBS broadcast license for perpetrating a fraud, deceit and forged documents on the America Public.
2.) Disbarment from the broadcast industry for above abuses.

Please make yourselves available. Absence will be considered an admission of guilt.

Sincerely,
FCC Chairman Powell



This is what I would really like to see, followed by an FBI inquiry and arrest for forgering government documents.


34 posted on 09/13/2004 4:34:50 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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What time does Blather come on tonight(PDT)? I haven't watched that idiot in years and years.

Nam Vet

36 posted on 09/13/2004 4:35:13 PM PDT by Nam Vet (I couldn't live a day without my VRWC Decoder Ring)
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