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The American Spectator ^ | 09-13-2004 | Washington Prowler

Posted on 09/12/2004 9:28:38 PM PDT by nyconse

While CBS news anchor Dan Rather can say there is no internal investigation under way over the alleged forged documents used as the foundation for an investigation into President George W. Bush's National Guard service, you wouldn't have been able to tell from the 15 or so 60 Minutes and CBS News" staffers working away feverishly on Friday and Saturday to try to nail down their story.

On Friday, according to CBS News sources, Rather spent the day on the phone and dealing with CBS suits who were nervous about the fall out from the story. "All Dan could say was that this was an attack from the right-wing nuts, and that we should have expected this, given the stakes," says a CBS News producer. "He was terribly defensive and nervous. You could tell."

All day Friday, Rather, his producer on the story, Mary Mapes, and other 60 Minutes staffers were scrambling to shore up support from their sources on the story. That effort didn't go so well. By Saturday, one of their key sources, retired Maj. Gen. Bobby Hodges, had said that CBS misled him, and that he had never been shown the memos in question.

"We pulled the trick of only calling some sources at the last minute to reconfirm," says the CBS producer. "Someone called Hodges, I think, on Monday night and read him parts of the document. The late contacts are a standard practice so we don't tip off the competition or our sources."

Hodges is a critical loss for CBS News' credibility. He was the superior officer of the man CBS claims wrote the memo, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, who died in 1984.

MEANWHILE, OVER THE WEEKEND journalists from around the country were attempting to track down the original source of the documents. "We're having a hard time tracking how we got the documents," says the CBS News producer. "There are at least two people in this building who have insisted we got copies of these memos from the Kerry campaign by way of an additional source. We do not have the originals, and our sources have indicated to us that we will not be getting the originals. How that is possible I don't know."

One individual several news outlets were looking at was Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard officer. Burkett in the past has cooperated with both press and Democratic Party opposition researchers in slinging mud at President Bush. Burkett gained some national attention earlier in the campaign when he claimed he was at National Guard headquarters in Austin 1997, when he overheard Guard officials and a representative of then Governor Bush discuss how to sanitize Bush's files. That story was fully discredited. Nonetheless, Burkett sat down for at least three different interviews with CBS News for the story now at the center of the controversy. One of those interviews was with Rather's producer, Ms. Mapes.

"There are rumors here that if there are any real documents, they are hand-written notes from Killian that someone like Burkett was holding, and that instead of using the hand-written notes, someone typed them up to look more official," says the CBS News producer. "They would look better on TV and posted on line if they were typed, but on a number of levels, that story just doesn't hold up. There are too many inconsistencies factually with what is in the memos."

THE MOST GLARING ISSUES now are the seemingly phony P.O. Box addresses used in the headers of at least one of the memorandums. Such post office box addresses were not used by the National Guard at that time, let alone a box with a number "34567," as in the memo.

Yet another issue: the 18-month gap between the retirement of Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt on March 1, 1972, and August 18, 1973, when the Killian of the disputed memos claimed that Staudt was putting pressure on him to sugarcoat an evaluation of Bush. Almost everyone involved in the National Guard in Texas says Staudt would have had virtually no influence in the active units nearly a year and a half after leaving the service.

PERHAPS MOST TROUBLING to the CBS News staff looking into how its story went off the rails is the timing of the memos' appearance. "Some 60 Minutes staffers have been working on this story for more than three years off and on," says the CBS News producer. "There have been rumors about these memos and what was in them for at least that long. No one had been able to find anything. Not a single piece of paper. But we know that a lot of people here interviewed a lot of people in Texas and elsewhere and asked very explicit questions about the existence of these memos. Then all of a sudden they show up? In one nice, neat package?"

This CBS New producer went on to explain that the questions 60 Minutes folk were asking were specific enough that people would have been able to fabricate the memorandums to meet the exact specifications the investigative journalists were looking for. "People were asking questions of sources like, 'Have you ever seen or heard of a memo that suspended Bush for failing to appear for a physical?' and 'Have you heard about or know of someone who has any documentation from back in the 1970s that shows there was pressure to get Bush into the National Guard?' It was like they were placing an order for a ready-made product. That is the biggest problem I have with this. It's all too neat and perfect for what we needed. Without these exact pieces of paper, we don't have a story. Dan has as much as admitted that. Everyone knows it. We were at a standstill on this story until these memos showed up."

REPORTERS ARE ALSO LOOKING at staff and associates of Sen. Tom Harkin, who enthusiastically held a press conference on Thursday morning using the forged documents as the tent pole for attacks against President Bush. Harkin called Bush a "liar."

"Harkin has been pushing this story for a while," says the CBS producer. "Not this specific story, but the 'Bush is a liar about his record' story. His people seemed particularly interested in making sure they could keep their boss up to date on what was going on."

That Harkin was the individual selected to be the attack dog on this particular issue was an interesting one, give that Harkin himself has a checkered history about telling the truth about his involvement in the Vietnam War.

WITH MORALE AT WHAT some Kerry campaign insiders consider an all-time low, Sen. John Kerry, who unlike Tom Harkin did serve in Vietnam, did what any true leader does. He sets up a conference call. During the Labor Day weekend, during meetings with senior staff, campaign director Mary Beth Cahill suggested to the candidate that he try to buck up the troops, since the media onslaught against him, as well as the dipping poll numbers, were affecting staff in Washington and in satellite offices around the country. Kerry acknowledged their concerns by gathering the Washington staff into the central office space in their McPherson Square suites and speaking to them via speaker phone. Kerry told them that things were going well on the road. The crowds were enthusiastic, and he could feel the campaign was moving in the right direction with the new senior staff additions.

"He actually said that he felt the campaign had turned the corner," says a Washington-based staffer. "Some of us couldn't help but laugh given that he's made fun of Bush for saying the same thing. You hear stuff like that and you just feel sick. You look over at people like [Joe] Lockhart and Cahill and they seem to understand it too."

Kerry further undercut his own efforts, when he hung up his side of the call before any questions could be asked by staff members.

"[Kerry] doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that he has problems," says the staffer. "I'm low level, but there are a few people here who have stopped coming in to work or to volunteer. We've got some issues, and the guy who should be trying to help fix it doesn't seem to care."

Cahill seems to understand this. On Thursday, since the candidate wouldn't face his own staff, Cahill pulled out the big guns. She invited her old boss, Sen. Ted Kennedy down to the Washington offices to further raise the morale of Kerry's staff.

Kennedy actually said little about Kerry, beyond the fact that he was a fighter who would continue fighting. After mentioning Kerry, Kennedy then went on a 10-minute diatribe about President Bush. "His face was turning red, he was really getting into it," says the Kerry staffer. "Then the next day we saw him make the same speech on the floor of the Senate. Guess we were the dress rehearsal."

THERE ARE OTHER PROBLEMS with the Kerry campaign. According to several Kerry and DNC sources, Kerry advisers have been furiously holding focus group meetings in an attempt to find some issue of national concern that might cut their way in the coming weeks. But nothing they've looked at seems to be working. Of course, even if they were to find something there is no guarantee their man would run with it.

For example, some media types thought having his old pal John Sasso along on the road would help focus Kerry a bit more on his stump speeches. Judging by Kerry's performance last Thursday in North Carolina, they're not sure anymore. While talking about the economy, health-care policy, Kerry went off speech and began stumbling immediately. Kerry said that he would always tell the public the truth, and if the audience didn't believe him, they could "[g]o to a web site. It can be johnkerry.com or go some other place. Go to truth.com, if there is one, and find out what's really happening," Kerry said.

I just know this is going to go back to the DNC or some Dem partisan like Harkins-Dem=liars. Someone knew what CBS wanted and like a good samaritan supplied...the fake memos.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; killian; memo; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; presbush; rather
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To: Howlin

http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm


41 posted on 09/12/2004 9:54:57 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
LOL.....you are so right!

How about this:

It was like they were placing an order for a ready-made product.

NO KIDDING......I said that last week: it's awfully convenient that documents apear that answer ALL the supposed rumors almost word for word!

42 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:02 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Texas Eagle

Love that picture...so true. Kerry is so busted. Even the suspicion that these memos came from the Kerry camp is enough to ensure he loses the election...as one poster put it Rather lied and Kerry (campaign) died.


43 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:05 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
"He actually said that he felt the campaign had turned the corner," says a Washington-based staffer. "Some of us couldn't help but laugh given that he's made fun of Bush for saying the same thing. You hear stuff like that and you just feel sick. You look over at people like [Joe] Lockhart and Cahill and they seem to understand it too."

This is awesome.
Bush by 8 points, and an electoral landslide.

44 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Southack
There is a reason that CBS and the Kerry campaign want to keep the focus on Bush's WietNam era service and the spotlight off the Kerry campaign, Kerry's Senate record, and Kerry's campaign statements.

Click here for the 'Tator Take

45 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:22 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: nyconse

The Kerry Campaign.

46 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:34 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
...would love to see Harkin taken down by this scandal

I thought he already was a member of the Democrat party. How can he go down from there?

47 posted on 09/12/2004 9:55:42 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Diddle E. Squat


Harkin is a low life, I just don't believe Robert Byrd and Pat Leahy are as low.


48 posted on 09/12/2004 9:56:16 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: js1138

49 posted on 09/12/2004 9:56:20 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Talking_Mouse

http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm


50 posted on 09/12/2004 9:56:41 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Boundless

CBS knows these are forgeries, and in my opinion they knew this or at least suspected it before airing that bogus report. Also, we have Barne's daughter saying her Dad told her he lied. CBS and Kerry look ....like road kill.


51 posted on 09/12/2004 9:56:55 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I would love to see Harkin taken down by this scandal, he's one of the sorriest bastards to ever walk the floor of the Senate, down there on a level with Robert Byrd and Pat Leahy.

Amen bruddah.

52 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:28 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: nyconse

They won't give it up. How dumb can you be. CBS, you've lost your credibility. You are now on the level of the Globe and the Enquirer. Before any of us believe, we must research elsewhere.


53 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:33 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: nyconse

I wouldn't be suprised of the TANG memos are traced back to Tom Harkin. I saw part of his news conference on Thursday.


54 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:34 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Truth and liberty: The Battle Hymn of Free Republic)
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To: soccer8

Everybody needs to put the heat on over at cbsnews.com. Here is the Comment I sent to them:

Shameful. Disgraceful.

Mr. Rather, just admit it: You were duped. You were caught with your journalistic credibility down around your ankles. You were willing to believe anything that would damage President Bush's chances for re-election.

Your documents are forgeries. Obvious, childish hoaxes. You did not verify their authenticity, and now you look like a fool.

Mainstream media has almost no credibility left. To salvage what tattered remains exist of your reputation, you should immediately:

1) Admit that you shamelessly reported a slanderous hoax and presented it as unvarnished truth. Apologize for doing so.

2) Publicly state from whom you obtained the forgeries.

3) Turn the originals over to the FBI. This is quite possibly a criminal case.

Until you do these three things, I refuse to watch your news "show" and I will no longer support your advertisers. There are millions others like me.


55 posted on 09/12/2004 9:57:47 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."--Putin / "A more sensitive war on terror." --Kerry)
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Bump for later reading


56 posted on 09/12/2004 9:58:25 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: Rome2000

Have any documentation as to the authenticity of the picture? If there is a PR or something that goes with it, we send the documentation to Ollie North. Bet he remembers the problem these Sandanistas gave him and will take the data from there!


57 posted on 09/12/2004 9:58:41 PM PDT by Henchman (Demand an inquiry by the media into Kerry's dealing with the VC in PARIS!)
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To: nyconse

I agree. CBS is hoping against hope that the news cycle will move on. They are now in stonewall mode. It remains to be seen if it works.


58 posted on 09/12/2004 9:58:46 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: nyconse
I don't believe for one minute there are any real handwritten notes..

You can believe the ONLY reason anybody is talking about handwritten notes is because Killian's widow said he only wrote in longhand on small scraps of paper.

That "it would look better on TV" is an isult to our collective intelligence.

59 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:04 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Indie
I can imagine. And since originals do not exist, you won't be getting those either.

Okay. So what were the copies copied from? And how did they arrive at SeeBS? By FedEx? UPS? Bicycle courier? Carrier pigeon?

60 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:07 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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