Posted on 09/11/2004 3:49:22 PM PDT by Maria S
NEW YORK Three years later, they remain open questions, and many people wonder if firm answers would lead to more pain or less, to practical lessons for society or to simply a spectacle for the morbidly curious. . How many people jumped from the upper floors of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11? . Why did so many more people jump from the north tower than the south? . What floors did they come from? . Who were they? . The attack on the World Trade Center was one of the most observed catastrophes in history, and those who fell or dropped from the towers were, briefly, its most public victims. They emerged one or two at a time from a blanket of smoke and fire that rendered mass death virtually invisible. Nearly all the others killed that day - whether high in the towers, on board the hijacked airplanes or deep inside the Pentagon - were beyond the sight of survivors and witnesses. Those who came through the windows of the towers provided the starkest, most harrowing evidence of the desperate conditions inside.
(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...
it's not mine ...
http://www.twin-towers.net/jumpers.htm
This site is graphic.
Never forget.
Very Good Point!
Something we should all remember always.
(Let's Roll)
He came back,
This time for me.
On the 110th floor I was so close to God
I could almost grab his beard.
Never before has heaven been this close to hell.
I can feel its fire on the floors below
Raising ash and paper and smoke
Thick as Satan’s laughter.
At the window, shattered,
I look for salvation and he tempts me,
Dares me to jump,
Whispering a psalm in my ear
He spits as he speaks:
“He will bid his angels watch over you.
With their hands they will support you.”
I mumble “Amen,”
Close my eyes and sense the rush of air.
I cannot breathe until I finally feel
Those hands of angels
Hard as cement against my face.
Can you please post those pictures.
Thank you. I'm not sure I'm glad that it's true, but I'm happy to have something confirmed. I suspect there were a lot of tall tales generated that day, especially about who lived and how.
I said the exact same thing to myself as I stood amid 4000 American Flags this afternoon in Tempe, AZ.
Yep, the rocket up to 86 was always a thrill, often an unwelcome one. For some reason Number Two seemed the shakier.
Imagine the comfort they found in each others grip. It's heartwrenching, and it's heartwrenching to think of those who did it alone. It's sickening to think of the twistedminds behind all of it. The twisted minds that aimed the planes and themselves at the buildings.
Which pictures? Everything is linked on my home page, grab what you want and post it. Look for the picture of the towers in the clouds. My home page is yours...
My theory: The windows were designed to be less than a shoulder's width wide. This was because the architect had severe vertigo--an odd affliction for one who designs skyscrapers. I believe the people in the building were trying to lean out to get air. But in addition to the narrow width, the windows were floor to ceiling. Once the glass was broken, there was nothing to hang onto, except the wide beam that framed the window.
I have examined one of the jumper pictures with Photoshop. The man's lower arms are completely black. He simply would not have been able to hold onto the building with horribly burned hands. He lost his grip and FELL!
We must not assume that those people chose suicide, even faced with the horrific inferno behind them. Can't we at least give them that?
There are pictures out there. I inadvertently found some the other day. We must never forget.....
Hope you had a big turnout. Those of us prowling around in Kerry Land are counting on you out there in the desert to come through big time.
To me as I watched the tv it was hard to imagine what people there were actually going through.
Just like in Beslan, abstract as it is and 8 time zones away, the evil there could easily come here if we let it.
website or newsgroup?
You know, who cares if someone jumped to their death or not, they did not commit suicide, they were all murdered by terrorist. I don't think anyone will judge any of these people for their actions, including God.
Since you were there, I assume you're a New Yorker. How in the world can New Yorkers who witnessed that horrible day continue to support a party and ideology (liberal Democrat) that want to surrender to terrorists? I got out of the Party of Dependence with far less trauma. Just wondering. Have they all really forgotten?
I actually just moved from New York to Boston (you don't have to say anything -- it was job-related) a month ago, just to establish that minor point.
For about a year after it happened, I really believed that attitudes had changed -- not that New Yorkers would abandon their Liberalism, but that they had in some important way bonded enough with Bush and that there would be a significant growth of support for both him and his WOT policies. And I saw plenty of anecdotal evidence around me -- people I knew whose attitudes really did seem to change quite dramatically. But I think the congenital Liberalism, the almost religious attachment that so many have to the Democratic Party, is almost unalterable. It seems to me that homegrown New Yorkers are inculcated from birth with preaching about the evil Republicans who want to take away all of your rights. They backed Bush for awhile because they were scared and Bush seemed like he could protect them. And in fact he's done such a good job of it that they take it for granted already and are back to focusing on how scary his religion is and tax cuts for the rich, blah blah blah.
I don't think New Yorkers have actually forgotten. I just think they swallow the Dem line that by going into Iraq, Bush was diverted from the WOT. I think a typical New Yorker actually believes, insane as it sounds, that Kerry would do a better job against terrorists. Or at least, they want to believe it so they can stay true to their Dem religion, which is what it is.
Having said all that, I do truly believe that Kerry's margin in NYC will not be at the level of Clinton. He'll still take it by a longshot, but there are enough good people there who really did get the message to at least hold down the numbers.
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