No Escape Route for CBS - Recommended Response from Killian Family

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

As a retired Air Force officer, I humbly suggest that the Killian family release the following statement to the press:

Based on overwhelming forensic evidence, significant internal discrepancies, and our intimate knowledge of the husband and father we knew as Lieutenant Colonel Jerry Killian, we hereby declare the documents presented on CBS 60 minutes II to be forgeries.

Moreover, any documents of this nature that may exist are not official Air National Guard records, but are the personal records of LtCol Killian and rightfully belong with his family. We did not and would never authorize any documents of this nature for public release. Whoever would obtain these documents of this nature would violate the privacy of a deceased Air National Guard member and would have obtained the documents surrepticiously and against his will.

We are outraged that a major news outlet would have so little respect for the family of a deceased service member as to so pathetically attempt to manipulate the words of that member for political gain.

I humbly hope that the family will issue some type of formal statement or news release of this nature. If anyone can get this post to them, p;ease forward it.

[OhMike]

Silverleaf, good point.

[loveliberty2]

If anyone of that era ever tried to cut and paste to make a document look like something it wasn't, then he/she will recognize the difficulty of placing numerals or letters beside each other at exact levels.

Note the 111 in the documents being discussed. The bottom of the numeral "1" is not exactly even with the numeral beside it. This happened to me frequently in those days when I tried to cut and paste.

There are so many obvious discrepancies in these documents that no person who lived in the 60's and 70's and worked with documents (especially if they worked on documents in military installations) could believe these are copies of undoctored documents, IMHO.

[SandRat]

Say like the willful infliction of egregious emotional harm and distress; the intentional disregard of the rights of a private citizen and their privacy inflicting egregious and wrongful public abuse of a private citizen (not a public figure) for the defendants personal and financial gain.

[TheLion]

"The story is true. The story is true," Rather said. "The questions raised in the story are serious and legitimate questions."

This is the danger of the wacko left. Only they can try and make a case with this kind of twisted logic. These people are desperate and grasping at straws.

[SandRat]

Speaking of Sen Edwards did you hear that his former NC law partner was injured in an auto accident?






The Ambulance suddenly backed up!

[SandRat]

or without a Distribution table to make sure it got delivered and filed in multiple places based on the subject. in this one the hospital, the flight surgeon, the personnel office for the Squadron and the Group, the Flight Ops folks, the Training Records NCO, ...... the list goes on

[Graymatter]

They could be rich even sooner. The only thing missing is that call from Madame Heinz-Quarters. One hopes they've already taken that walk that comes to every life sooner or later...that walk to Radio Shack for the recording device.

[hobson]

Wow! It's growing. Last night it was 10,500.00

[Cicero]

My experience of stuff like personal letters and poetry is that the heirs of the writer--that is, the family--have the right to forbid or allow publication. That's why Holly Stevens got to edit the letters of Wallace Stevens--because she had the copyright as her father's heir. Similarly, when I wanted to quote a few lines of Yeats in a book I wrote, I needed permission from Yeats's heirs.

There are definite rules involved, which a copyright lawyer or some similar expert would need to look at. But you can't just appropriate or steal someone's private memos and publish them without paying for permission. You might get away with publishing a brief extract for purposes of discussion, but not the whole thing, and especially not actually reproductions of the alleged documents.

If a scholar finds someone's letters squirreled away in a trunk in the attic, he still needs permission to publish them. I don't see why these principles wouldn't apply in this case if the documents are genuine. If they are forgeries, as I think they are, then other rules apply. But CBS is denying that they are forgeries.

[SlickWillard]

But they would definitely be challenged to a duel.

I wouldn't even bother challenging them to a duel.

I would just kill them.

[woofie]

I think your suggestion is excellent and Icall on the Killian family to add this phrase:

"Dan Rather is a do do head"

[hinckley buzzard]

"that doesn't mean there isn't another legal theory for a cause of action."

A tort is anything a judge or jury says it is. Now if "Silky Pony" was a republican, he'd be on these people's doorstep by now.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

I'm not aware of an instance of any of the cited historical figures responding to slanderous lies by simply killing the perp.

[Howlin]

Does anybody know any of the players in this little drama?

It is my understanding that Hodges and Staudt would have good cause for action claiming defamation.

And the Killians certainly have a legal ground for a suit regarding use of personal papers of a deceased man, especially misrepresenting them.

[Southack]

In yet another confirmation that the documents are deliberately forged, CBS claims that *MILITARY ORDERS* are "personal" papers. That can't be true, by definition.

Further, military correspondence *between* officers on official military business (Medicals, flight reviews, officer ratings, et al.) are by definition not personal papers.

In short, the very *claim* that these forged documents are "personal papers" is evidence in and of itself that CBS is publishing deceptive information.

1 Full Legislative Day Left Until The AWB Expires

[AmericanCheeseFood]

Kerrys 527(CBS) deserves notonly that press release, but to be stripped of ever being taken as a News source from this point forewards.

No more Rather!