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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; ..

Does anybody know any of the players in this little drama?

It is my understanding that Hodges and Staudt would have good cause for action claiming defamation.

And the Killians certainly have a legal ground for a suit regarding use of personal papers of a deceased man, especially misrepresenting them.


38 posted on 09/12/2004 2:05:28 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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In yet another confirmation that the documents are deliberately forged, CBS claims that *MILITARY ORDERS* are "personal" papers. That can't be true, by definition.

Further, military correspondence *between* officers on official military business (Medicals, flight reviews, officer ratings, et al.) are by definition not personal papers.

In short, the very *claim* that these forged documents are "personal papers" is evidence in and of itself that CBS is publishing deceptive information.

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39 posted on 09/12/2004 2:14:11 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Maybe we could get their address if nobody knows the players.

One point, however, wouldn't suing them for using your personal papers, validate that they actually exist?

I would sue for fraud and character deflamation.
43 posted on 09/12/2004 2:30:29 PM PDT by TheLion
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I certainly hope the have some recourse. What cBS has done is despicable.


46 posted on 09/12/2004 2:40:00 PM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. ¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Howlin
It is my understanding that Hodges and Staudt would have good cause for action claiming defamation

I'm not a lawyer, but if I was to take a guess .. depending on all the info, they could file a civil case I would think

IF there was a criminal case it would be forging a military order and forging the signature of a military officer

48 posted on 09/12/2004 3:11:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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nope...but here's a bttt


51 posted on 09/12/2004 4:26:41 PM PDT by firewalk
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I'm a bit confused. Did CBS go on record to call the documents 'personal' records? I didn't catch that and wonder how a military order could be classified as such. If personal, than the Killians have legal grounds but we may never know where they originated unless theft and defamation are remedies sought. However, if they're military orders, than our prayers of learning the source will be answered once the Justice Dept. gets involved.
54 posted on 09/12/2004 5:26:52 PM PDT by StarFan
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You know, Kerry used a dead informant as a "source" at least once before.

Back in 1986, as a matter of fact- wonder if there were forged documents involved then as well?

1986 : (KERRY LAUNCHES HIS OWN "INVESTIGATION" TO DISCREDIT THE NICARAGUAN RESISTANCE AND THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS TO HARASS OPPONENTS OF THE SANDINISTA REGIME) Kerry Launches His Own 'Investigation': Fed by supportive journalists and Washington-based think tanks that supported the Sandinistas, Kerry put his experience as a former assistant county prosecutor to work in 1986, launching a full-scale "investigation" of his own to discredit the Nicaraguan resistance and the Reagan administration. His probe, alleging an international criminal conspiracy, coincided with lawsuits against retired Army Gen. John Singlaub and others in what was called a legal harassment campaign against American opponents of the Sandinista regime, alleging bizarre international plots.

The cases collapsed under legal scrutiny but made sensational headlines that fueled Reagan opponents for years. The first significant lawsuit was filed in May of that year by Tony Avirgan and his wife Martha Honey, two U.S. journalists who were open Sandinista sympathizers. Evidence in their lawsuit, much of which Kerry and his staff recycled as public statements, was based "largely on information from a dead informant whom they never met and identified only as 'David X,'" the Washington Times' James Morrison reported at the time. According to Morrison, Avirgan "admitted that he had never met David X," who "was the source of the information of the entire conspiracy."

Fed by Honey and Avirgan, who worked closely with his staff, Kerry gave the false allegations credibility in the press. Despite its accomplishments in muddying the waters of the emotional Central America debate, the Kerry probe kept falling apart. One key witness, British soldier of fortune Peter Glibbery, swore that Kerry staffers bribed him to accuse Sandinista opponents of crimes, only to recant the next day. Others, including a former French soldier named Claude Chaffard, said that Kerry staffers promised to help him out with U.S. visa problems and paid him money while he cooperated.
--Kerry's Disloyal Nicaraguan Journey, by J. Michael Waller, Insight Magazine, May 17, 2004


56 posted on 09/12/2004 6:30:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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