Boston Globe: Authenticity backed on Bush documents (Bouffard, a Demoncat, flips...sort of)

Boston Globe ^ | 9-11-04

[ambrose]

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Bouffard, the Ohio document specialist, said that he had dismissed the Bush documents in an interview with The New York Times because the letters and formatting of the Bush memos did not match any of the 4,000 samples in his database. But Bouffard yesterday said that he had not considered one of the machines whose type is not logged in his database: the IBM Selectric Composer. Once he compared the Bush memos to Selectric Composer samples obtained from Interpol, the international police agency, Bouffard said his view shifted.

In the Times interview, Bouffard had also questioned whether the military would have used the Composer, a large machine. But Bouffard yesterday provided a document indicating that as early as April 1969 -- three years before the dates of the CBS memos -- the Air Force had completed service testing for the Composer, possibly in preparation for purchasing the typewriters.

As for the raised ''th" that appears in the Bush memos -- to refer, for example, to units such as the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron -- Bouffard said that custom characters on the Composer's metal typehead ball were available in the 1970s, and that the military could have ordered such custom balls from IBM.

''You can't just say that this is definitively the mark of a computer," Bouffard said.

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[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

The rats are going to defend these documents like they defended clinton against charges of sex with an intern.

It's just lying about type fonts! Everybody does it!

[Texasforever]

It should be fairly easy to find out if one of these 5,000 dollar machines was available to the NG and if a man with no typing skills could have used it. This is the smokescreen of choice. It is like a DNA match that says that the chances are 1 in 200 million is proof that the defendant is innocent.

[need_a_screen_name]

Vertical spacing and kearning should debunk this.

* The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, is not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.

From another Freeper:

[A]nother aspect of the type on [the August 18, 1973 memo] suggests, perhaps proves, forgery. 1. The type in the document is KERNED. Kerning is the typsetter's art of spacing various letters in such a manner that they are 'grouped' for better readability. Word processors do this automatically. NO TYPEWRITER CAN PHYSICALLY DO THIS.

To explain: the letter 'O' is curved on the outside. A letter such as 'T' has indented space under its cross bar. On a typewriter if one types an 'O' next to a 'T' then both letters remain separated by their physical space. When you type the same letters on a computer next to each other the are automatically 'kerned' or 'grouped' so that their individual spaces actually overlap. e. g., TO. As one can readily see the curvature of the 'O' nestles neatly under the cross bar of the 'T'. Two good kerning examples in the alleged memo are the word 'my' in the second line where 'm' and 'y' are neatly kerned and also the word 'not' in the fourth line where the 'o' and 't' overlap empty space. A typewriter doesn't 'know' what particular letter is next to another and can't make those types of aesthetic adjustments.

2. The kerning and proportional spacing in each of the lines of type track EXACTLY with 12 point Times Roman font on a six inch margin (left justified). Inother words, the sentences break just as they would on a computer and not as they would on a typewriter. Since the type on the memo is both proportionally spaced and kerned the lines of type break at certain instances (i.e., the last word in each line of the first paragraph are - 1. running, 2. regarding, 3. rating, 4. is, 5. either). If the memo was created on a typewriter the line breaks would be at different words (e. g., the word 'running' is at the absolute outside edge of the sentence and would probably not be on the first line).

3. The sentences have a wide variance in their AMOUNT of kerning and proportional spacing. Notice how the first line of the first paragraph seems squished together and little hard to read but the last line of the first paragraph has wider more open spacing. Even the characters themselves are squished in the first line (as a computer does automatically) and more spread out on the last line where there is more room.

There's no way a typewriter could 'set' the type in this memo and even a good typesetter using a Linotype machine of the era would have to spend hours getting this effect.

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Why can't these idiots get this??

[Diogenesis]

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and outrageously and odiously said they were from "credible" sources.
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The proterrorist writers at the Boston Globe KNEW exactly what they were doing.

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Boston Globe Publishes Fake Iraq Rape Pictures to have Americas Murdered (Again) - Thread 1

Boston Globe Publishes Fake Iraq Rape Pictures to have Americas Murdered (Again) - Thread 2

This latest lie against AMERICA was from none other than the bow-tied home of liar Jayson Blair =====> The Boston Globe.

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More examples?

From The Boston Globe's (and New York Times') own wars against the War for Enduring Freedom.

Turkish bombings, including that of the HSBC bank murdering a dozen people and wounding scores,
directly resulted from smears in the Boston Globe used to demean America and incite terrorists.
The Boston Globe front page article claimed the American liberation of Iraq from the murderous Saddam was a "rape".

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The Boston Globe has a history of front-page slurs against the valiant American military [which later were merely fabricated] [4/8/03]

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The Boston Globe has a history of falsifying front page polls
BOSTON GLOBE FABRICATES FRONT-PAGE POLL [4/9/03]

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“If she had lived (being abandoned alive in a submerged car driven by Sen Kennedy),
Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
(Democrat) Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

Charles Pierce, January 5, 2003 Boston Globe Magazine

[GoLightly]

LOL

[Slings and Arrows]

Why can't these idiots get this??

They get it - they just don't care.

[eclectic]

Enough of this! There is extremely small probability that a document created in 1972 matches exactly (up to the photocopy noise) the one produced with MS Word today. There is high probability that the documents are forged. Now, it would be very easy to determine for sure using the originals. So, either CBS produces originals for independent expertise, or they have no credibility.

[ninonitti]

This matters because?
The Globe long ago outed itself as the gay dating paper in Boston with their nonstop above the fold deep throat action on all things queer.

The fact that after continually violating a fundamental judeo-christian taboo with their oral cavity we'd find them putting lies in the same pie hole about George Bush should surprise no one.

The real question is do they personally swallow this stuff?

[ambrose]

More to the point, the doc refers to pressure from a general who had retired 1.5 years prior to when CBS claims the memo was written.

[js1138]

The Composer has been tried here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212935/posts

and failed.

[Time4Atlas2Shrug]

From what I have read, they actually couldn't have been produced by this typewriter because it didn't have proportional font spacing unique to every character, only about four different widths. Modern word processors have this feature and Hugh Hewitt's blog today includes a computer science professor explaining the difference. It is really interesting.

I think that pressure needs to be put on CBS to produce the originals and if they cannot, they have some 'splainin to do. An entire news editorial staff should not come to the conclusion that the memos are authentic without the original documents. They believed what they wanted to.

On Hannity today when Killian's son was interviewed, he said when CBS spoke to him a couple of weeks ago, he gave them the name of someone to contact that knew his father well and worked with him and the interviewer said that they did not want to contact him because he is "too pro-Bush". How's that for unbiased.

[DaveMSmith]

Globe should get a pulitzer for this story! /sarcasm

[ambrose]

NY Times reports Bouffard's "shift" of opinion...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/politics/campaign/11guard.html

Dr. Philip Bouffard, a forensic document specialist in Georgia who has compiled of database of more than 3,000 old fonts, said people who bought the I.B.M. Selectric Composer model could specially order keys with the superscripts in question. Dr. Bouffard said that font did bear many similarities to the one on the CBS documents, but not enough to dispel questions he had about their authenticity.

The Globe was dishonestly spinning Bouffard's tap dancing in a direction even he wasn't willing to go...

[jwpjr]

Wow, thanks for providing that link. What an interesting read! I would love to contribute to his tip jar, but I've used all my discretionary income for this decade in supporting the SBVfT. If I had come across this earlier I would have split my $25 between them. I'll put him on my list for 2010 contributions.

[eclectic]

Of course, but even retired generals can have some influence. Everything can be explained away in isolation, but preponderance of evidence is pointing in the direction of forgery. Now, let them produce the originals! There is simply no way to fake 32 year old document (paper texture, ink composition, typography (as seen on the original), etc)

[Texasforever]

The Globe was dishonestly spinning Bouffard's tap dancing in a direction even he wasn't willing to go

LOL Once again FR busts the old media. Good job.

[Tempest]

Have you guys e-mailed that information to the news agencies?

[Rabble]

Sounds to me like it's C.Y.A. time. He could loose Lotsa money for this blunder. Or maybe the Kerry/Fonda team got to him?

[MediaMole]

For me the single item is the way Killian's name is written on the form.

In know good samples, his name is written...

"Jerry B. Killian, Lt. Colonel, TexANG"

On the CBS documents, his name is written...

Jerry B. Killian
Lt. Colonel

On two lines with no TexANG

See the samples here... http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_signatures.html

[js1138]

Thanks. A lot of people had questions about the IBM Composer, which are now being answered. The documents cannot be matched on a composer.

One of the things noted by the guy who tried to match the document on a Composer is that this is a mechanical device, and it shifts and creaks a bit, making it impossible to get perfect matches, even with itself.

The other thing is the centering of the address block. It is virtually impossible to do this on a composer because the range of spacing widths isn't fine enough.