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Boston Globe: Authenticity backed on Bush documents (Bouffard, a Demoncat, flips...sort of)
Boston Globe ^ | 9-11-04

Posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:47 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: ambrose
Yawn. Except for this:

Killian's Typewriter

41 posted on 09/11/2004 12:14:56 AM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: ambrose

So what he got a font from an Interpol machine...So the real question is Did killian know how to type? ( cause on a selectric hunt and peck REALLY shows up)Would anyone TYPE out memos to themselves? Did a Guard unit ( the lowest of the low on the goody scale ) actually have such a unit? And the answers are no no and no...These things stink to high heaven and if anyone thought that Kerry would win because Clinton was helping../.yeah right they have guaranteed a spot for Hillary in 2008


42 posted on 09/11/2004 12:16:37 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: ambrose
But the Commanding Officer's wife said he never knew how to type! So someone else must have typed the letter either in 1972 or September 9, 2004.

It appears to me that a little Arkancide is being used in this Campaign since the Clinton Boys joined the Hit Squad...or sorry, I meant the Kerry Team.
43 posted on 09/11/2004 12:17:53 AM PDT by not2worry (The future of Our Country is in Our Hands!)
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To: ambrose

Where was the part of one of the memos... where it mentioned some standard in a book - someone looked it up and it was completely unrelated? Who cares about if it can be matched on a computer - besides that, it has terminology errors..


44 posted on 09/11/2004 12:18:59 AM PDT by sakka
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To: ambrose
Occam's Razor:

(from http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html)

"Occam's razor is a logical principle attributed to the mediaeval philosopher William of Occam (or Ockham). The principle states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed. This principle is often called the principle of parsimony. It underlies all scientific modelling and theory building. It admonishes us to choose from a set of otherwise equivalent models of a given phenomenon the simplest one. In any given model, Occam's razor helps us to "shave off" those concepts, variables or constructs that are not really needed to explain the phenomenon. By doing that, developing the model will become much easier, and there is less chance of introducing inconsistencies, ambiguities and redundancies." When there are competing explanations for a phenomenom, the simplest explanation is usually true.

Here, either the memo is a fake, or else the TANG officer in question just happened to have typed the memo on one of the most sophisticated typewriters of its day.

Hmmm. Tough choice.

45 posted on 09/11/2004 12:21:51 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: ambrose
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46 posted on 09/11/2004 12:26:09 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: jnarcus

Back then a Selectric Composer (Compositor) with fonts cost more than a Mercedes Benz.


47 posted on 09/11/2004 12:26:28 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Poincare

And it took training to use.


48 posted on 09/11/2004 12:27:30 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: ambrose
Even if what he said is "possible" Killian didn't type (per his son and wife) so the odds of him using a machine this complicated, and taking the time to change the ball to get the smaller, superscript font are more infinitesimal than me winning the lottery.
49 posted on 09/11/2004 12:29:12 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ambrose
I spoke with Bouffard on Friday morning. Here is that story --- CLICK.
50 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:09 AM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: doug from upland

you should contact him again and see if he agrees with the way the Globe is spinning his opinion as an endorsement of the questioned documents.

Based on what was reported in the NY Times, it appears the Globe is wildly distorting what he said.


51 posted on 09/11/2004 12:43:45 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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"Once he compared the Bush memos to Selectric Composer samples obtained from Interpol, the international police agency, Bouffard said his view shifted."

sKerrys french pals lending a hand?


52 posted on 09/11/2004 12:55:47 AM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: ambrose

Exactly!


53 posted on 09/11/2004 12:57:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug
On Hannity today when Killian's son was interviewed, he said when CBS spoke to him a couple of weeks ago, he gave them the name of someone to contact that knew his father well and worked with him and the interviewer said that they did not want to contact him because he is "too pro-Bush". How's that for unbiased.

ROFL!

CBS has an Agenda!

54 posted on 09/11/2004 12:59:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: ambrose

This entire article is so stupid because it's a slam-dunk that these documents are forgeries. That's because they refer to a man named General Staudt as being actively involved in managing Bush's squadron, when in fact Staudt had already retired from the ANG at the time. The documents are certainly forgeries and CBS is just trying to limit damage to their credibility through lying and denial. In the long run, their lying about this incident may damage their credibility even more than an immedidate confession and apology.


55 posted on 09/11/2004 1:03:51 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: ambrose

Fine, CBS, provide any proof that Killian had one in his office and/or that he ever used one-- or knew how to use one.


56 posted on 09/11/2004 4:23:24 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Crazieman
"http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html 'nuff said."

The link you provided states that a "11-point Press Roman" font was used to type the comparison document on an IBM Selectric Composer. At least one typography expert on FR has stated that the font in the CBS pdfs is NOT a Roman type font.

57 posted on 09/11/2004 4:37:26 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: need_a_screen_name
"The type in the document is KERNED."

No, it is not. For example, with kerning the space between letters Y and A in the string "CYA" (included in one of the documents) would be reduced. This reduction can NOT be seen on the CBS pdf with the "CYA" string. To see what kerning does, type "CYA" in MS Word and turn kerning on from the font properties.

58 posted on 09/11/2004 4:41:38 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: carl in alaska
It appears that the Boston GLobe was IN on the forgery.

Better check their hard drives.

59 posted on 09/11/2004 5:00:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: ambrose
Once he compared the Bush memos to Selectric Composer samples obtained from Interpol, the international police agency, Bouffard said his view shifted.

The poor, stupid boob should have read THIS that lays the Selectric Composer possibility to rest.
60 posted on 09/11/2004 5:09:37 AM PDT by aruanan
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