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Boston Globe: Authenticity backed on Bush documents (Bouffard, a Demoncat, flips...sort of)
Boston Globe ^ | 9-11-04

Posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:47 PM PDT by ambrose

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Bouffard, the Ohio document specialist, said that he had dismissed the Bush documents in an interview with The New York Times because the letters and formatting of the Bush memos did not match any of the 4,000 samples in his database. But Bouffard yesterday said that he had not considered one of the machines whose type is not logged in his database: the IBM Selectric Composer. Once he compared the Bush memos to Selectric Composer samples obtained from Interpol, the international police agency, Bouffard said his view shifted.

In the Times interview, Bouffard had also questioned whether the military would have used the Composer, a large machine. But Bouffard yesterday provided a document indicating that as early as April 1969 -- three years before the dates of the CBS memos -- the Air Force had completed service testing for the Composer, possibly in preparation for purchasing the typewriters.

As for the raised ''th" that appears in the Bush memos -- to refer, for example, to units such as the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron -- Bouffard said that custom characters on the Composer's metal typehead ball were available in the 1970s, and that the military could have ordered such custom balls from IBM.

''You can't just say that this is definitively the mark of a computer," Bouffard said.

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(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; forgery; fraud; hoax; killian; mediabias; rather
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From Sun-Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-bush10.html

Bouffard is a registered Democrat planning to vote for Kerry.

1 posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:47 PM PDT by ambrose
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''You can't just say that this is definitively the mark of a computer," Bouffard said.

From these weasel words from a Kerry supporter, the Boston Globe produces this headline:

"Authenticity backed on Bush documents"

Well... I say, BULLSHIT!

2 posted on 09/10/2004 11:42:43 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose

"could have"

Right! Grasping at straws.

The idea that a Composer "could have" produced these documents has already been debunked.


3 posted on 09/10/2004 11:42:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Howlin

zing.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 11:43:22 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose

How much did the flip cost I wonder? Soros could probably drop a million or two.

Does it bother Bouffard that Rather never had originals. And isn't it hysterical that the BG is dropping this. What a joke!!


5 posted on 09/10/2004 11:43:27 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ambrose

The rats are going to defend these documents like they defended clinton against charges of sex with an intern.


6 posted on 09/10/2004 11:43:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: ambrose

Somebody should ask him to produce a sample.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212935/posts


7 posted on 09/10/2004 11:44:11 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: P-Marlowe
Debunked Theory.
8 posted on 09/10/2004 11:44:20 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

It seems that they're saying if it can be 100% proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they were produced on a computer, then they must be authentic.

What a crock of sh__t.

Sick and tired of these leftist scumbag treasonous fifth columnist filth.


9 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:06 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose
Here we go again. So the memos 'could' have been created to look as shown using an IBM Selectric Composer - BIG FRIGGING DEAL. I've said this before - the chances of the TxANG having such a machine, and then using it to create MEMOS TO THE FILE are about the same as the chances of me dating Ann Coulter.
10 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:06 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa ("Oxymoron" is an oxymoron. Oxys=Sharp, keen + Moros=foolish --> moron = oxymoron.)
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To: ambrose
Bouffard is a registered Democrat planning to vote for Kerry.

Did that model come with a time machine attachment so it could go into the future and get the technology for kerning? Sheesh.

11 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: ambrose
http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html

'nuff said.
12 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:24 PM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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To: ambrose

Yeah, no doubt the Air Force went out and bought one of those machines so some mid grade officers in the Guard could type up notes for their personal files. Yeah, and they also were looking at buying lear jets for their enlisted men.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:46 PM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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To: P-Marlowe

For IBM Composer analysis see:
http://shapeofdays.typepad.com


14 posted on 09/10/2004 11:46:55 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: ambrose

They don't even look the same to ME....notice the 1's have FLAT bottoms on the old document!

And if you notice in the copy of the older document, CBS has "doctored" up the "th."

The So-Called "th" document

15 posted on 09/10/2004 11:47:40 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: ambrose

He knows they are fakes. Just look at how carefully he couched his opinion.

1. The IBM selectric composer existed. [It could not center like this and the superscript th required changing a ball to a different font and a website has put up comparisons of trying to match up the documents, but it did exist.]

2. The Air Force had investigated getting such machines and may well have. [But the Air Force having such machines hardly gets them to the Houston base of the Tex ANG.]

Occam's Razor says they are fakes. He knows it. But this machine makes him not to have to admitt they are 100% fakes, eventhough there is a greater probability that OJ was innocent than that these documents were created in the 1970s.


16 posted on 09/10/2004 11:49:11 PM PDT by JLS
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To: ambrose

Don't forget that the Boston Globe has a vested interest in those documents being accurate and true; they ran with it.

The same Globe who published the fake prison pictures, right?

The same one who says Bush didn't finish his guard duty.


17 posted on 09/10/2004 11:49:18 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Casloy

Don't forget the chauffers for their jeeps and champagne for the water coolers.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 11:49:30 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Hillary is unavailable for comment. She's still trying to keep Bill away from the nurses.)
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To: ambrose

I was afraid this might end up this way. It only takes them a few days to get all the media in line, selling the fraudulnet documents as real and trashing the President with them. How long will this story last? This means they'll promote the Kitty Kelley B.S. as legitimate too. The real question is, who is listening? And who believes them? And who really cares?


19 posted on 09/10/2004 11:49:36 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: ambrose
''You can't just say that this is definitively the mark of a computer," Bouffard said.

*** Ahem ***

THIS IS DEFINITELY THE MARK OF A COMPUTER.

The document is identical IDENTICAL in every respect to the 300th of an inch on EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER as the exact same document typed in Microsoft Word.

20 posted on 09/10/2004 11:49:45 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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