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Was George Bush Avoiding a Mandatory Drug Test by Skipping His Physical?

Posted on 09/10/2004 10:30:27 PM PDT by grassboots.org

Neither Random nor Mandatory Drug Testing Were Used in the military until 1981. Therefore President Bush was not likely avoiding tests that were not yet given.

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1 posted on 09/10/2004 10:30:28 PM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: grassboots.org

Desperation is fun to watch.


2 posted on 09/10/2004 10:31:28 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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Poor DNC.

What will they try now...


3 posted on 09/10/2004 10:31:56 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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There is a lot of things that the press is claiming as mandatory that isnt so. Like the physical itself, if Bush didnt want to take his physical it was his option to skip it and lose his flight status, with no negatives on his records.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 10:32:50 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: grassboots.org
Oh, for crying out loud.

How much more of this crap are we going to have to deal with between now and November 2? My Viking Kitty is tired.


5 posted on 09/10/2004 10:35:12 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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What will they try now...


Have they tried VD yet? Memo to the file...


7 posted on 09/10/2004 10:38:33 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: grassboots.org

I don't think they had drug tests as we know them today back then. If someone was suspected of alcohol or drug abuse there was a different procedure for it. This information was provided by the AF man intervied on Brit Hume today.


8 posted on 09/10/2004 10:40:30 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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I have seen indications it became part of flight physicals in 1971 for all active duty and extended active duty personnel.I am not sure Bush was on extended active duty.


9 posted on 09/10/2004 10:41:10 PM PDT by Blessed
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Whats that got to do with anything? Are you a troll? I noticed that you enrolled on sept 1,2004 have you been waiting all this time just to say cocaine is a hell of a drug?


10 posted on 09/10/2004 10:41:21 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: grassboots.org; xzins

Flight medicals were probably the same for military pilots as they are for FAA. They consist of a blood pressure test, a turn-your-head-and-cough exam and a question or two about whether you have ever had a gran-mal seizure.

They are looking for conditions that might cause you to lose consciousness while flying. That's about it.

They didn't do drug screening.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 10:42:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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Was George Bush Avoiding a Mandatory Drug Test by Skipping His Physical?

I know this can't be true because if he had done this, he'd have been running as Clinton's VP initially rather than as a Republican...

CB^)

12 posted on 09/10/2004 10:43:35 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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Drug screen?

So what? Did Kerry go to North Vietnam (an enemy) as a reservist during the Vietnam War? Isn't that treason?


13 posted on 09/10/2004 10:44:34 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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Bush would have passed the physical, drug testing and all, except that wasn't one of the screenings done then---but if it had been he would have been fine.

What was your point?

(as if we couldn't guess)


14 posted on 09/10/2004 10:44:38 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: grassboots.org
Neither Random nor Mandatory Drug Testing Were Used in the military until 1981. Therefore President Bush was not likely avoiding tests that were not yet given.

I served in the United States Marine Corps from 1979 until 1985 and was given my first random drug test in.... 1985. (I passed, fyi.)

15 posted on 09/10/2004 10:48:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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...[T]he formal drug testing program was not instituted by the Air Force until the 1980s and is done randomly by lot, not as a special part of a flight physical, when one easily could abstain from drug use because of its date certain.

www.classicalvalues.com/archives/001242.html

16 posted on 09/10/2004 10:49:27 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: grassboots.org; HairOfTheDog

It is true that drug testing wasn't commonly done until the 80's. I don't know if even the tests had been developed by the 71/72 timeframe or not.

I said on another thread, and I think it speaks right to the point, that drug testing when it was finally implemented was a separate process from the ordinary physicals. A flight medical certification was mainly done to make sure the the pilot didn't have a heart condition or a respiratory condition that made him/her a high risk for an in-flight medical problem. Drugs weren't really even on the horizon in the early seventies as something to worry about for pilots.

Hair... got comment?


17 posted on 09/10/2004 10:49:31 PM PDT by Ramius
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John Loftus has been spreading this rumor for months, on the John Batchelor show, that Bush wouldn't take the physical in order to avoid the drug test. He offers no substantiation. I'm glad to see that this rumor is now being refuted.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 10:52:18 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers (5)
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Amazing how all of the pictures from back then make George Bush to be an incredible specimen of health and an outstanding young man.

The Democrats are really loosing it.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 10:52:26 PM PDT by TheLion
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By the way, if I recall correctly, random drug testing was a procedure unto itself. That is, I had physical exams in the USMC and those physical exams were just that - - physical exams. And those physical exams DID NOT include drug testing.


20 posted on 09/10/2004 10:53:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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