Live Thread: CBS Evening News (Dan tells us why we're all wrong)

www.freerepublic.com | September 10, 2004

[Marylander]

The is not the same Robert Strong

[cyncooper]

People won't forget what CBS was party to here.

Count on it.

[bert]

I think Dan's begging Pinch.....

Excellant thought and completely in aqccordance with Bernard Goldberg's description of Rather/CBS clique.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

Dan needs to be sent to pasture right away.

[Petronski]

I remember using a Mac Plus for newspaper layout in 1986, and I used their 'timesy' font a thousand times. It really BOTHERS me that I can't remember that name that I selected from the font menu a thousand billion times.

[shrinkermd]

You can find the discussion of "kerning" on the powerline blog which is www.powerline.com. Here is an excerpt of what he says:

"But these are minor points. Kos never addresses the smoking-gun issue of kerning. We discussed this extensively yesterday, but briefly, "kerning" is the ability of letters in word-processed documents to intrude on one another's space. If you type the word "my" in Word or any other word processing program, the tail of the "y" will curl slightly under the "m." This cannot be done on any typewriter, because a typewriter cannot know what the adjacent letter is. A letter on a typewriter must have its own space.

[Calpernia]

I'm still doing searches. They are sharing independent reporters, pdfs, and translations.

Sorry. The little message blurb vs. an official press release is very telling.

Even reverse propaganda can have truth.

I hold to their intentional mislead.

http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/110687.shtml

Indymedia.org team in merger talks with CBS/Viacom
George Soros, CEO of Indymedia.org ltd has begun merger talks with the CBS/Viacom News Network to help bring together the Vibrant Staff of the Independant News Network with the resources and Global Consumer Reach of the CBS news network. This follows a meeting of the IMC Board of Directors and key Indymedia shareholders where it was decided that Indymedia needed to branch out from its traditional Liberal readership demographic to encompass more mainstream news interests and readerships....

[blteague]

BTW, I live in NC and can verify that it's 10 to 1 W stickers/posters over Skerry...we can't stand the Breck girl, either!

[cyncooper]

I see Gregory had time to add in CBS's pointing out the reduced "th" on another Bush record (does not explore the differences between the two documents in question) and now Allison Stewart eagerly reads the CBS statement.

Stewart misstates that anyone claimed certain technologies "didn't exist" and she points out they did as if that was ever the argument anyone made.

Like CBS, she ignores the question of whether such technology was at the fingertips of Killian.

What nonsense.

[Sonar5]

At the USA Today site, there are other memos from Killian in a totally different format since they are legitimate....

These are FORGERIES and CBS just got debunked yet again.....

[Marylander]

Thanks, but it turns out this is not the same Robert Strong. This guy has a statement: The CBS expert is not me. etc., etc.

[CedarDave]

That needs to be repeated and emphasized:

Times Roman has been available since 1931, but only in linotype printshops...until released with Apple MacIntosh in 1984 and Windows 3.1 in 1991.

And after a court battle, Windows was forced to change the name to its current one of "New Times Roman".

[MissAmericanPie]

"Handwriting Experts", are a joke, and for sale to the highest bidder. For every one that says the documents are real, you can hire forty to say they are not real.

Let's get an FBI hand writing expert to take a look. Blather says that particular TH ability was available in the 70's? Who made them, how many were in production, how many sold and to who. The military usually buys the same model from the same company. Was it a personal typewriter or did it belong to the Guard? Details are lacking here.

He seems to have left that, and alot of other information, out of his little speech. This story needs to be torn apart bit by bit.

[RipSawyer]

If there were a thirty year old original it probably would have an obvious aged look to it. There is no thirty year old original because these documents are obvious fakes and therefore CBS will do whatever is necessary to avoid producing the original which could easily be shown to be fake.

[doug from upland]

Dan Ra^ther.

[Congressman Billybob]

The first generation photocopiers were around in 1960. That summer I was chained to one of those in an advertising agency. It was a "wet" copier using harsh chemicals. The copies came out wet and had to be laid out singly to dry so they would not either smear or stick together.

The dry copiers which were electrostatic rather than chemical came out maybe four years later. From then to now its been refinements rather than quantum leaps in copiers, except for the jump to color copies.

Congressman Billybob

[Mitchell]

Yes, I vaguely remember the controversy over the Kurt Cobain suicide note.

Several years ago, I read an essay by Courtney Love on copyright issues in the music industry; this was back in the days of the original Napster. I don't recall the details, but I do remember thinking at the time that it was a surprisingly cogent essay, not at all what one would expect based on the typical news stories about her.

[Marylander]

This is not the same Robert Strong

[Matt32]

On the subject of photocopying, some questions are definitely raised by the May 4 1972 memo. Link here.

Look closely at the blacked-out section and you'll see that the text under it can (rather easily) be read. This would not be the case if this document had been photocopied, as there would be no grays, only black and white.

Well, more accurately, the suspicious blacking-out leaves one of two possibilities. Either that the memo in question was never photocopied at all, or that someone blacked out Bush's address with a marker after the photocopy was made. But if Rather is to be believed that these are in fact copies of an original, then someone had to have modified the documents along the way to black out the address. Just another piece of the puzzle...

[Calpernia]

To be fair, Atomic Conspiracy pointed out that this information may have been a publicity stunt for April Fools.

I'm doing quite a few searches. I'm finding pdf docs showing that CBS and IndyMedia are sharing independent reporters, CBS has access to Indy's translation server, Indy stores media pieces for CBS at their server, and the story below went out translated to all their mirrored language sites. It was even picked up by list servers.

I think this was floated as a joke; but with truth behind it.

I belive it.

http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/110687.shtml

Indymedia.org team in merger talks with CBS/Viacom
George Soros, CEO of Indymedia.org ltd has begun merger talks with the CBS/Viacom News Network to help bring together the Vibrant Staff of the Independant News Network with the resources and Global Consumer Reach of the CBS news network. This follows a meeting of the IMC Board of Directors and key Indymedia shareholders where it was decided that Indymedia needed to branch out from its traditional Liberal readership demographic to encompass more mainstream news interests and readerships....