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Did 60 Mintes and Dan Rather Break The Law?
U.S. Code ^ | Countertop

Posted on 09/10/2004 12:44:52 PM PDT by Countertop

18 USC 506 covers the forging of government agency seals (ie: components of the military) and makes it a crime punishable by 5 years in prison and a fine to do so.

Might this explain why CBS and Dan Rather are now so forcefully insisting that the documents are not forgeries and they in fact hired experts to check them out??


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: killian; rathergate; selectricgate
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1 posted on 09/10/2004 12:44:52 PM PDT by Countertop
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To: Countertop

If the documents are forged then Rather is in deep... er... crap.


2 posted on 09/10/2004 12:46:09 PM PDT by chalkman (Three can keep a secret if two are dead)
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To: Countertop

No they didnt break that particular law. As far as I can tell they didnt use any official seal on the paperwork.

But by producing a document and claiming it is as official, along with a forged signature there is the law breaking.


3 posted on 09/10/2004 12:47:03 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Countertop

It's doubtful that the "original" documents contained any offical seals that would be actionable in this case.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 12:47:24 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa ("Oxymoron" is an oxymoron. Oxys=Sharp, keen + Moros=foolish --> moron = oxymoron.)
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To: Countertop

Seems to me that someone is deliberately attempting to skew the election.


5 posted on 09/10/2004 12:48:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: aft_lizard

If/when they are found ou they deffinitely will be found guilty of some kind of felony.


6 posted on 09/10/2004 12:48:18 PM PDT by chalkman (Three can keep a secret if two are dead)
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To: Countertop
Breaking news...

Dan "Stonewall" Rather to invoke the 5th Amendment

hahaha

7 posted on 09/10/2004 12:49:01 PM PDT by NewMediaFan
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To: NewMediaFan

Dan Rather has just been notified that his new job as a Wal-Mart greeter starts Monday...


8 posted on 09/10/2004 12:54:07 PM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: Countertop

Now they apparently have a typewriter that can produce the superscript, but that doesn't deal with all of the other problems with this account.

There is a lot of covering of assets going around.


9 posted on 09/10/2004 12:54:12 PM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: saveliberty
they apparently have a typewriter that can produce the superscript++++++++++

I have an early 50s vintage Olympia that does superscrip but U.S. Military did not use foreign machines. Electric machnines were few and far between in 1972 and I never saw a superscripting proportional spacing type writer in my military career. That is not saying they did not exist but they were seldome outfits.

11 posted on 09/10/2004 1:03:37 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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:) You are going from the point of view that they actually feel that they need to prove their case. They know the docs are fraudulent. They are raising just enough bluster to create just a tinge of doubt to get away with it.


12 posted on 09/10/2004 1:08:22 PM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Countertop

i think Killians Wife should Sue CBS! CBS using that document without her permission was slander against her husband! It shows her husband trying to cover his ass and doing shady deals, unbecoming of an officer! SHE NEEDS TO SUE CBS BLIND!


13 posted on 09/10/2004 1:09:08 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Countertop; hershey; devolve; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Mia T; JohnHuang2; Smartass; Registered
The "legal side" of Dan Rather's woes . .

(Did he break da law?)

14 posted on 09/10/2004 1:11:59 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you - 54 days until November 2nd - 9/11 is this Saturday.)
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I don't think we should press for any criminal charges for now. For now, the burden of proof is on CBS to show the documents are genuine. Once criminal charges come into play, they no longer bear that burden of proof.


15 posted on 09/10/2004 1:13:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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Free Martha !

Free Dan !

Free Martha !

Free Dan !


[lol. Just practicing just in case.]


16 posted on 09/10/2004 1:14:23 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Isn't a signature nothing other than a seal of authority and attribution? When a forged signature is placed over a military title and rank it then strikes me as forging a government seal


17 posted on 09/10/2004 1:15:11 PM PDT by Countertop
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To: FesterUSMC

Sorry, You can't defame a dead person.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 1:19:08 PM PDT by Countertop
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To: saveliberty
"Now they apparently have a typewriter that can produce the superscript, but that doesn't deal with all of the other problems with this account."

But the question is, did the National Guard unit have a typewriter that could produce superscript? The chances of that are slim to none. National Guard units were poorly funded, operated on dregs of material and supplies, and were definately not given state-of-the-art typewriters. Besides, the guy's wife says he didn't even type and wasn't much of a note writer. All they're doing is trying to prove the lie. Give it up. Confess CBS. You LIED!!!!

19 posted on 09/10/2004 1:20:39 PM PDT by holyscroller (Actions speak louder than bumperstickers)
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To: dirtboy

I agree. I'm not pressing for criminal charges, just trying to explain why CBS decided to circle the wagons and refuse to conduct an investigation when last night they seemed very willing to do so.


20 posted on 09/10/2004 1:20:50 PM PDT by Countertop
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