Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Kerry doomed, Fake docs and FR mention all on ABC's Notes.
ABC Notes ^ | 09-10-2004 | Various- ABC notes

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:07 AM PDT by Smartaleck

Excerpts....

The Kerry end is near? At this precise time every four years, the most media-savvy members of the Gang of 500 begin to think about their roles in the premiere post-election forum that revisits the actions and players of the presidential race.

But if nothing changes in the race as it now stands — with President Bush winning a decent-sized victory — much of the talk will be about the greater technical proficiency of the Bush-Cheney effort.

Democrats, who deny up and down that they had anything to do with the documents, tell ABC News that they plan to continue their push to question the president's Guard service, irrespective of the CBS situation.

Top Democrats vow to continue to lead the charge against Bush along these four lines

1. Bush allegedly got special treatment
2. Bush allegedly was suspended for missing his medical exam
3. Bush allegedly didn't fulfill his requirements
4. Bush allegedly didn't release all the documents he said he'd release

But they acknowledge that it might be more difficult to break through the clutter of questions surrounding the documents' authenticity. (Guess they won't heed BC's advice?)

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos said on "Good Morning America" that "a lot of Democrats think this might have been a set-up" by Republicans — a sentiment we are likely to hear more of in the days to come.

(ABC acknowledges Freepers broke the story...yeah boy)

We always favor looking at the content and substance over WHO is offering up the information, but in the war that will ensue about WHO gave CBS the potentially phony documents, it is interesting to Note that the right (Drudge, Fox, right-leaning blogs, others) led the way in pointing out the questions we have all been asking — and they were onto the questions, with remarkable detail, relatively soon after the documents were made public.

Here's part of how this story got here . . . from a little Marc Ambinder back-lurking on the blogs . . .

At 8:00 pm ET Wednesday night, CBS News does the story . . .

at 8:59 ET — before the broadcast is finished!!! — the documents come into question via a poster named Buckhead on the Free Republic Web site: LINK http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210662/posts

Buckhead seems well-read on his forensic document examination skills. "Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts. The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts. I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old."

Well, this is bandied about by dozens of Freepers, as they're called and is picked up at 8:30 am ET and added to by www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ — this little green football guy is a very popular conservative blogger . . .

It's expanded upon by www.powerlineblog.com/ in the early morning:

and also by www.spacetownusa.com/hmmm

and here, at 10:36 am ET: www.allahpundit.com/.

snip The Boston Globe does not get into the debate about the documents, focusing instead on the full-throated DNC push on Bush's service. LINK

A New York Times editorial on the new documents and Bush's Guard service does include a reference to the documents' authenticity being challenged. LINK

The White House lobs claims that the Kerry team is behind attacks on Bush's military service record. The Washington Times ' Bill Sammon reports White House press secretary Scott McClellan describes it as desperate measures for desperate times. "You absolutely are seeing a coordinated attack by John Kerry and his surrogates on the president." LINK

And let us not be the last to point out that if a(nother) major corporation was withholding information related to serious allegations made against the president of the United States, "60 Minutes" would be all over them, demanding to know about their documentation and expert back up.


TOPICS: Free Republic; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; 60minutes; 60minuts; barnes; benbarnes; biggerthanwatergate; brownshirtsforkerry; bush; bushmemos; cbs; cbsmemos; ccrm; danrather; democratslie; dirtytricks; dnc; dncliars; electionlaws; fakedocuments; feclaws; federalcrime; forged; forgeddocuments; forgeries; forgery; fr; fraud; freerepublic; frinthenews; goebbelswouldbeproud; greatfind; greatthreads; guards; hoax; hoaxmemos; kerry; kerrycampaign; killian; libel; lyingliars; mediabias; nationalguard; ratherbiased; rattricks; slander; smearcampaign; snopes; snopesmia; stephenfhayes; tang; texasnationalguard; thebiglie
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-127 next last
For those not familiar with the Note, it's sort of a synopsis of what various MSM are doing for the current day. Very informative and at time enlightening.....even if it is the MSM.
1 posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:07 AM PDT by Smartaleck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

The Clintons (Begala, carville, Lockhart, McAwful) are now in total control. Kerry is burn't toast. What a maroon.


2 posted on 09/10/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by hflynn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck
It's time for real coverage of how the news is made. Here's some questions for CBS:

How large is Rather's staff? Does he take "research" from the DNC or their spin-off fronts?

Is his job to investigate, or to read though the stuff that's handed to him?

If he's "fed" the "news" is there an inherent bias to keep his handlers in power?

Is there a conflict of interest when the people who feed you the "news" are out of power and your take isn't as good? Is there an incentive to get "your guys" back in?

Does Rather have a dog in this fight? If the insiders who give him the "good stuff" are out of power, how "good" is the "stuff"? Rather still shills for dems, but people don't care as much because dems don't call the game. And Rather doesn't have insider Republicans to do his job for him....

If the DNC is doing Rather's work for him and for CBS, is CBS being paid by the DNC?

What is the is the coin of the realm for a one-sided "bribe" in the news field?

3 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:15 AM PDT by GOPJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck
Our country was attacked and is at war, and this is the best that democrat's can come up with ?

Can you just imagine how the republicans would be

regarded if they had attacked FDR during WWII in

the same way the democrats attack Bush now ?

The islamofascists hate us all, democrats, republicans and independents.

4 posted on 09/10/2004 7:58:12 AM PDT by abc1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

I'm pretty sure they're implying that buckhead's secret indentity is ... Karl Rove?


5 posted on 09/10/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by The G Man (I'm mad as ZELL and I'm not gonna take it anymore!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

So now they are trying to say Bush smeared himself?


6 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:08 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck
"I told you so" GWB


7 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:13 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck; Buckhead

So all the stuff not in bold was written in the "ABC Notes"?
How'd you get them?


8 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:34 AM PDT by Amore (Go, Swifties, go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The G Man

They must not spend a lot of time at FR if they think it's suspicious that we discuss news stories while they're going on. Didn't they check the 4000 + posts of the various campaign speeches?


9 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:46 AM PDT by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

Now NBC and ABC need to feast on their own (ABC) MSM. They need the ratings and I hope it turns out to be a feeding frenzy. A house divided (MSM) cannot stand.


10 posted on 09/10/2004 8:01:50 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck; Buckhead

Where would this story have gone without the FREEPERS?!?!

Congratulations to all involved!


11 posted on 09/10/2004 8:02:53 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: frog_jerk_2004
Now NBC and ABC need to feast on their own (ABC) MSM

I meant their own (CBS)

12 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:27 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

Burden of proof is on the Democrats and CBS.
They have to prove their charges.
They have yet to do so.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:33 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Kerry is DOOMED (DOOMED!)!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

14 posted on 09/10/2004 8:04:14 AM PDT by mhking
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hflynn

Did you mean "moron", "macaroon" or "marooned"?

Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe he's all 3.

Maybe he's a moron marooned on a desert island eating humble macaroons instead of pie. Or crow.


15 posted on 09/10/2004 8:04:55 AM PDT by garyhope
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck

Oh, never mind, I see you used bold for emphasis and put your comment in parens. It just reads so oddly to me, I obviously have never seen such notes.


16 posted on 09/10/2004 8:04:57 AM PDT by Amore (Go, Swifties, go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The G Man

Oh yeah....Rove without a doubt. LOL

G-Man of PT fame? If so, sure would like to see your room in rememberence of 911.....what a great time.


17 posted on 09/10/2004 8:05:34 AM PDT by Smartaleck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck
I like the idea that CBS was taken in by Karl Rove but will protect him to the end by refusing to reveal their sources. (Karl Rove is known to be able to disguise himself as some guy named Ben Barnes when he so desires.)
18 posted on 09/10/2004 8:06:20 AM PDT by VadeRetro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Amore

So all the stuff not in bold was written in the "ABC Notes"?

Pretty much. My smarty comments are in parenthesesessss.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 8:07:13 AM PDT by Smartaleck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Smartaleck; Buckhead
Here's part of how this story got here . . . from a little Marc Ambinder back-lurking on the blogs . . .

At 8:00 pm ET Wednesday night, CBS News does the story . . .

at 8:59 ET — before the broadcast is finished!!! — the documents come into question via a poster named Buckhead on the Free Republic Web site: LINK

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210662/posts

Buckhead seems well-read on his forensic document examination skills.


ping

abcnews.com's the Note. Money on the next being the Maha Rushie?
20 posted on 09/10/2004 8:08:06 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-127 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson