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Kerry doomed, Fake docs and FR mention all on ABC's Notes.
ABC Notes ^ | 09-10-2004 | Various- ABC notes

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:54:07 AM PDT by Smartaleck

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To: nutmeg

BTTT


41 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:25 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Smartaleck
Long-time Dem pollster/strategist Pat Cadell, who has been showing signs of reasonableness of late, was just on Fox News utterly trashing the Kerry campaign. Says the "internals" are worse than the preference numbers, and that they are moving in Bush's direction rapidly.

Caddell appears genuinely mystified about Kerry's fixation on Vietnam, and says if his campaign doesn't change the focus quickly, the race could be "over" within a couple of weeks. Then, when the subject of the possibility of the "CBS" documents came up, Cadell said that if they do in fact turn out to be forged, Kerry is done.

Asked why he was being so hard on the Kerry campaign, Caddell responded that he [Caddell] was "trying to save his party by telling the truth."

42 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:33 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (I used to be schizophrenic, but we're fine now.)
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To: angkor

"So ultimately he won, and ran with a bogus story."

Given the can of whupa$$ Fox put on the MSM during the Rep. Convention and the poor ratings of CBS it's not leap of faith to conclude Danny boy was desperate and Fubar'ed.


43 posted on 09/10/2004 8:27:02 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

did CBS 60 minutes ever reveal the source of these papers?


44 posted on 09/10/2004 8:31:57 AM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: deroberst

My sentiments, exactly. I get so POd at some of the BS posted here - however - the BS is far outweighed by this being the BEST breaking news source on the internet! There is nothing finer, even ham and eggs in Carolina. Congratulations to the greatest newshounds in the world!


45 posted on 09/10/2004 8:32:45 AM PDT by hardhead (No Appeasement to Muslim Spawn)
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To: daviddennis

Agreed. Any of the millions of Americans who worked in military/government offices in that time period would be able to recognize whether a document could or could not have been produced on the equipment in use at that time. And military/government equipment was WAY behind what was in use in the private sector, so just because somebody from IBM says some very new Selectrics at that time "might" have had superscript capability, doesn't have anything to do with the matter.


46 posted on 09/10/2004 8:33:08 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ruoflaw

"the source of these papers"

Not so far. Won't even open up to other news media from what I've read.


47 posted on 09/10/2004 8:34:34 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck
1. Bush allegedly got special treatment 2. Bush allegedly was suspended for missing his medical exam 3. Bush allegedly didn't fulfill his requirements 4. Bush allegedly didn't release all the documents he said he'd release

1. If he did - so what - a lot of people in that era got "special treatment

2. That was going on a lot in that era also - if you didn't show up for your exam - you wouldn't be able to fly anymore - and if he was getting out, what's the big deal

3. If he didn't fulfill his requirements, he would not have gotten a discharge from service - he would have gotten a courts martial

4. He told them to release all the documents - in an organization like the military - documents are misplaced, misfiled all the time - heck even at major companies documents are lost or misplaced. An Komrade Kerry has not even requested that all his documents be released. (sour grapes?)

48 posted on 09/10/2004 8:37:15 AM PDT by Core_Conservative (Screw ‘moderates.’ Only things found in the middle of the road are yellow lines and road kill!)
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To: Smartaleck

Too funny!

But honestly, I don't think this was a Republican hoax. Why? Because it has all the hallmarks of the incompetent Kerry campaign. If a Republican operative had done this, it would have been done a lot better -- would have done a harder to detect forgery, so that it WOULDN'T be discovered almost immediately, so that the media and Kerry campaign would have some time to dig themselves in deeper over it, before the fraud was exposed.


49 posted on 09/10/2004 8:37:27 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: deroberst; Jim Robinson
I never realized it would someday SAVE the COUNTRY.

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their Flag to April's breeze unfurled,
Here the embattled farmers stood
And fired the Shot heard 'round the World.

-- Ralph Waldo Emerson




I vote that this go at the top of each forum.
50 posted on 09/10/2004 8:37:42 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: mabelkitty; Buckhead; Howlin
Your suggestion of a nasty note to ABC for using our names and information without permission is a good one. That note should come from Buckhead and Howlin, since they are the two names that appear on the critical Post 47. Here's how the philosophy of "verifying sources" should apply in the New Media. Before a news outlet uses items from a thread on the Internet, the reporter should contact that screen name by e-mail and give at least an hour for a response to come back.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore."

If you haven't already joined the anti-CFR effort, please click here.

51 posted on 09/10/2004 8:38:00 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

The MK-19 RULES!

Still there.

Still mean.


52 posted on 09/10/2004 8:38:29 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun):.)
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To: hardhead

"My sentiments, exactly. I get so POd at some of the BS posted here"

I see you're from the "class of 98" also. Yes, lots of BS over the years. However, I was thinking just yesterday, through all the fits and growing pains I would have to say the FR of today is much improved over the past.

Kudos are in order for the Robinson's and admins who have done much to weed out the redundant posts (such as this one, LOL) and obvious disruptors.....i.e. the ZOT.


53 posted on 09/10/2004 8:38:47 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck
In fact, even if Kerry wins, there will be much talk about the discipline, focus, success, and, yes, shamelessness of the BC04RNC team:

Avoiding a nomination challenge; merciless distribution of message of the day; deflection of any serious discussion of the war in Iraq, health care, jobs, or the tax burden; installing a White House press secretary willing to use the podium for political purposes but not respond directly to any hard questions; making the race not about the incumbent's record but the challenger's, all the while claiming to want to focus on "the future"; and the wielding of national security as the ultimate political trump card.

Nope, no bias there. But I do agree, ABC's "The Note" is a good source of information. It was in "The Note" that teh comment regarding Kerry campaign attitude toward "Unfit for Command" was expressed -- "they [the media] want us to win, and the matter [Swiftees] will be taken care of."

54 posted on 09/10/2004 8:39:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: LibFreeUSA; TankerKC
PROBLEM IS..... it was NOT at "8:59 ET" before the broadcast is finished"

You're right, but it was at 107 posted on 09/08/2004 8:19:00 PM EDT by TankerKC
55 posted on 09/10/2004 8:41:02 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: abc1

FDR "avoided" military duty in WW1.


56 posted on 09/10/2004 8:42:54 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: Smartaleck

I think I am correct that Buckhead said this at 11:59 EST and not 8:59 EST as The Note claims.


57 posted on 09/10/2004 8:42:58 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Cboldt

"Nope, no bias there. " <------ LOL

"One does not truly know their own argument unless they fully understand their opponents." sorry don't know who said it, but I believe it. Hence......the Note can be most rewarding. :-)


58 posted on 09/10/2004 8:44:20 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

Bump...this is great!


59 posted on 09/10/2004 8:44:24 AM PDT by Loopy Picklefink (All your votes are belong to us! Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Congressman Billybob; LibFreeUSA

I don't think we should get into that game -- could backfire. And besides, then we wouldn't give them a chance to hang themselves. See post #38.


60 posted on 09/10/2004 8:45:10 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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