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The Thread that broke the Camels Back:Post 47, and the Freepers who busted C.B.S.
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Posted on 09/09/2004 11:02:29 PM PDT by Redcoat LI

Credit where it is due,Howlin's thread,Buckheads post.

Post # 47 To: Howlin

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.

47 posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Buckhead [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]


TOPICS: Free Republic; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 47; 60minutes; buckhead; cbs; forgery; fortyseconded; howlin; killian; rathergate
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To: Redcoat LI
I just heard the 5 pm (EDT) NPR news that highlighted the likelihood that the documents were forged.

BUT the segment ended with this teaser: how was it possible for the weblogger to point out the odd type face at 8:56 p.m., even before the 60 Minutes II show ended, if the viewer only had a few fleeting seconds to see the images of the documents?

The news clip, then, suggests that the weblogger (whom we all know is the famous Freeper Buckhead) was an insider to the hoax. We need to respond to this suggestion ASAP.

241 posted on 09/10/2004 2:51:43 PM PDT by Remole
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To: Positive

Shake Off The Chains And SMASH! The Old Media!! FREEPERS ROCK!

242 posted on 09/10/2004 2:53:33 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (ANY U.S. Soldier's Blood Worth Tiptoeing ANYMORE Around Middle Eastern "Holy" Cities or Mosques???)
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To: Redcoat LI

FR has officially arrived and become the most important news forum. We have started making threads out of our own posts that are a nationally recognized. (globally?)


243 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory; All

OH YEAH
CBS News=Old Media
FR=Tommorow news make headlines


244 posted on 09/10/2004 3:15:14 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: longtermmemmory

Globally, yes. Globally recognized. I know folks in the international media who follow FR from time to time, especially when things heat up and they want hot, timely and deep thinking perspective.


245 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (ANY U.S. Soldier's Blood Worth Tiptoeing ANYMORE Around Middle Eastern "Holy" Cities or Mosques???)
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To: SevenofNine
The sweet gals of The Days of Post #47 send their love to Howlin and Buckhead, and all the rest!


246 posted on 09/10/2004 3:22:21 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (ANY U.S. Soldier's Blood Worth Tiptoeing ANYMORE Around Middle Eastern "Holy" Cities or Mosques???)
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To: trussell

place marker


247 posted on 09/10/2004 3:25:12 PM PDT by trussell (Women who behave... rarely make history!!)
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To: Howlin

Thank God For FR, and the FReepers here.

Reagan said before, and we all will be able to say in the future, that we made a difference.
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248 posted on 09/10/2004 3:49:07 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

How is it that you can defend a story with the same people you used to create the story?

Didn't CBS call anybody else in to verify these documents?

Is this guy the only one they could get?


249 posted on 09/10/2004 3:51:02 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Tunehead54
Congrats again. Since you're in the middle of the storm please remind us FReepers to look over the other posts on sKerry's site - someone noted that his DD-214? looked like it had proportional fonts and those areas were lighter compared to the "typed" portions - wonder what else he's hiding?

Perhaps the person completing the form had stamps for certain common phrases. That would be a plausible explanation, though why a stamp for "INDOCTRINATION" and not "SINGLE" I don't know.

250 posted on 09/10/2004 4:20:28 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: RandallFlagg
How tall is how tall Laurie Dhue?

Her legs go from the ground all the way up to Paradise (sigh).

251 posted on 09/10/2004 4:25:27 PM PDT by quark
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To: Redcoat LI

While we are at it.

Has anyone seen a copy Kerry's DD 214?

I think that will explain alot....

At leat Bush is daying he has a Honorable discharge. I haven't heard that from Kerry. I think this is a Freeper moment!!!


252 posted on 09/10/2004 4:28:40 PM PDT by Whataday
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To: Remole

The 60 minutes story was only one segment, and the forgery was so crude that it is easily spotted.

Now,if the VRWC was smart enough to fool Dan Rather with these documents, wouldn't they be smart enough to wait a plausible amount of time before uncovering them?

Either way, the documents were forged.


253 posted on 09/10/2004 5:07:00 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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To: Kozak
This ain't the first time either. From the "Sore Loserman" of 2000, to the post that let us know about a closed door recount going on in Florida that led to the " Republican riot" that stopped it, to the co author of " Unfit for Duty" to this deconstruction of a CBS hit piece IN REAL TIME FR is shaping the news, not just following it. Thank Jim Rob. Thank you fellow Freepers. The VRWC is proud.

Well said. BTW don't forget "Get out of Cheney's house"...LOL!

254 posted on 09/10/2004 5:36:20 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Redcoat LI

Compare one of the Jerry Killian memos given to CBS News,
and allegedly produced in 1972, to the same text created using MS
Word 2002. A person who wishes to remain anonymous forwarded a
link to me for an animated presentation which overlaps the two
documents and shows, using a current font, how tab spacing and
inter-line spacing match the defaults in Microsoft's Word.

Brent Baker

You'll need to have Macromedia Flash installed to watch the
slide show. Check it out at:
http://img41.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img41&image=60minbusted.swf

from http://www.mediaresearch.org alert


255 posted on 09/10/2004 6:30:10 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Redcoat LI
Listen my children to what’s being said,
about post 47 on Howlin’s thread.
Where Buckhead had noticed and Buckhead alone,
strange things in the memos 60 Minutes had shown.

The font and the spacing you just couldn’t do,
On any typewriter in ‘72.
The centering, apostrophes and superscripts too,
where also some things that you just couldn’t do.

The memos are real, CBS still insist,
our expect checked them and nothing he missed.
On their authenticity, his reputation he’ll stake,
but a dozen other experts think the memos are fake.

256 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:28 PM PDT by al_possum39
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To: al_possum39

Nice ryhme...maybe O'Reilly will read it on the air!!!!!!!!!


I've said it before, the Freepers are great!!
This site ROCKS!!!


257 posted on 09/10/2004 7:41:01 PM PDT by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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To: Redcoat LI

Somebody better check to make sure Buckhead didn't make derogatory statements about Islam or the Pope...


258 posted on 09/10/2004 7:46:33 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: Redcoat LI

Bump for tomorrow


259 posted on 09/10/2004 7:48:31 PM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Redcoat LI

A great moment in history. To have Dan Blabber go out to the dog track on this story will forever haunt him. I am so grateful and humbled to be on this patriotic site at this time in America's history.

To quote Ronald Wilson Reagan....Howlin, Buckhead, "not bad..not bad at all."


260 posted on 09/10/2004 7:51:05 PM PDT by JediForce (Never underestimate the power of the Dark side of the Force....keep the blasters' fully charged.)
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