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1 posted on 09/09/2004 7:45:35 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, was not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.

I've been away from FR for a while, but that's a new one for me today.....

2 posted on 09/09/2004 7:46:45 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana ("Kerry-Edwards" or "Bury Vets' Words"? or "Verry Leftwards"?)
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Washington Post has picked up the story. More details


3 posted on 09/09/2004 7:46:46 PM PDT by jhouston
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The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, was not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.

That's new to me. Another nail in the coffin.

5 posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:49 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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Awright Pan Blather, where's that very personal apology? And "60 Minutes" producer, director, network, We the People demand an apology.


6 posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:51 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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From the article:


"These documents do not appear to have been the result of technology that was available in 1972 and 1973," said Bill Flynn, one of country's top authorities on document authentication. "The cumulative evidence that's available … indicates that these documents were produced on a computer, not a typewriter:"

Among the points Flynn and other experts noted:

The memos were written using a proportional typeface, where letters take up variable space according to their size, rather than fixed-pitch typeface used on typewriters, where each letter is allotted the same space. Proportional typefaces are available only on computers or on very high-end typewriters that were unlikely to be used by the National Guard.
The memos include superscript, i.e. the "th" in "187th" appears above the line in a smaller font. Superscript was not available on typewriters.
The memos included "curly" apostrophes rather than straight apostrophes found on typewriters.
The font used in the memos is Times Roman, which was in use for printing but not in typewriters. The Haas Atlas — the bible of fonts — does not list Times Roman as an available font for typewriters.
The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, was not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.



7 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:05 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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Bumpity bump!


8 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Great to see on MSM outlet act in their own self interest and point out CBS for the frauds they are in this instance.


9 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:36 PM PDT by JLS
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And they wonder why we don't trust them!! This is too funny.


10 posted on 09/09/2004 7:48:51 PM PDT by linear
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Notice how the photo caption above even says "President Bush was..." and not the usual "Bush was......"


14 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:32 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana ("Kerry-Edwards" or "Bury Vets' Words"? or "Verry Leftwards"?)
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CBS lied, typewriters died.


15 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:34 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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The great thing about these Bush National Guard Service stories is that they always put a picture up like the one above. What readers will remember is not the story itself, but the photo will be seared in their memory forever.

16 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:36 PM PDT by Azzurri
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Experts(aka Freepers) question veracity...

Wonder if they would have questioned if several smart Freepers hadn't started the questioning???

17 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:37 PM PDT by GummyIII (Good judgement comes from experience and experience--well, that comes from bad judgement.)
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Don't forget the wordwrap smoking gun:

...others have noted that the wordwrap of a manual typewriter is different than a word processor.

But to analyze this facet more specifically, MSWORD wraps the current word when the end of a word passes the right margin, whereas a person typing manually finishes the word he is typing when the right-margin bell rings, and then does a carriage return. The net effect of the manual typewritten style is that, if one draws a vertical line at the bell-margin, that line should go through (intersect) the last word of every line of text.

Clearly, from the 1 AUG 1972 memo, NO SUCH VERTICAL LINE CAN BE CONSTRUCTED THAT INTERSECTS THE LAST WORD OF EVERY WRAPPED LINE OF TEXT!

For example, in paragraph 3, on a typewriter, we have to assume the right-margin bell rang while typing the word "and" on the 1st line. Yet, if that was the case, then on paragraph 2, the margin bell would have rang while typing the word "orders", and the subsequent word "for" should have appeared on the next, not the same, line.


18 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:41 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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I love it. Please affirm that this is a real post from ABC News: I'll sleep so soundly tonight after a celebratory Jim Beam...egad: Rather caught in an unprofessional lie. 60 Minutes discredited. MSM discredited, except for ABC News trying to save itself. Terry McAwful caught in supporting a lie. Implications for JF'nK. The consequences are astonishing...


20 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:49 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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Whoever created those documents is fried! Sizzling like bacon in a pan. Watch out Fort Marcy Park.


21 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:57 PM PDT by pieces of time
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To: hispanarepublicana; VRWCTexan
From Pg. 31 of this pdf file.......

Pg. 33.......

From the Killian memo.....

Not even close.

Kudos to VRWCTexan

22 posted on 09/09/2004 7:50:58 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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RATHERLIES
26 posted on 09/09/2004 7:51:41 PM PDT by timestax
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We still need to hold the MSM's feet to the fire on this - notice the way they headline the story, etc., it is not made clear who faked the docs . . . the uninformed reader could wrongly assume that the Bush camp had faked something . . . we need to make it clear that it was RatherBS who faked the docs . . .


27 posted on 09/09/2004 7:51:58 PM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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Big Ole Bump to the Top
 
Way to go FReepers!!!

33 posted on 09/09/2004 7:53:48 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'm mad as Zell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!)
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This is better than than Troy State beating #17 Mizzu of the Big 12 tonight.


35 posted on 09/09/2004 7:54:13 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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