Posted on 09/09/2004 11:44:01 AM PDT by Peach
Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:41 PM EST
By Melanie Hunter CNSNews.com Deputy Managing Editor September 09, 2004 02:34 pm
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a current word processing program, according to typography experts. Three independent typography experts told CNSNews.com they were suspicious of the documents from 1972 and 1973 because they were typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program. More to Come
Kerry will be niegotiating for a truce after he sees this memo. This is as series problem.
What about corrections? Who could have typed something like this with no typos? When did correction tape and neater things than liquid paper come into being?
It's not ME; I just post the threads; the real brains out there rip them apart!
And here....
I could be totally wrong or dreaming here, but I thought I read somewhere that Killian's widow had stuff she had given to CBS or someone in the media.
Anyone else hear that, or am I just hugely mistaken?
The Freepers who came up with this should ask the questions. This is a pile of unsupported evidence dropped on the public by CBS. Let them prove that the memos are genuine if they can.
I don't know if this has been posted, but if you retype the heading to the May 4 memo in Word (or equivilent), you get the same lineup -- the "B" in box is right under the "n" (second letter) in Interceptor.
I recall headaches in centering text when I was using manual typewriters to the extent that I didn't center things unless it was absolutely necessary. I just left them on the left side, heading style. A CYA memo wouldn't have needed to be this formal.
There's 50,000 people here working in concert and dedicated to digging up the truth. The MSM has maybe the same number of people working independently, but they are dedicated to obfuscation.
I think this story may have legs. We'll see. There's a lot to be suspicious of.
Nice. I was thinking the same thing.
From another freeper who is in the military on another thread:
1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out.
2--no one issues an "order" through a "memo." Maybe a letter, but nothing as informal as a "memo."
3--the signature (initials) of Lt. Col. Killian is clearly a cut-and-paste job. The last letter ("K") is cut off at the top, where two lines start to curve toward each other in a loop. Impossible to to do by hand. This signature was cut from another document and pasted or taped on the document.
4--No letterhead. Do you really think commanders typed out a the squadron on every letter? No. Letterhead was used.
5--No way there were superscripts back then. No way. Even if it was theoretically possible (which it wasn't), the national guard isn't exactly an early-adopter of technology. This ability wasn't even available at any price for several years.
I'm speechless.
CBS might have fallen for a prank. It reminds me of that guy who calls Dan Rather every time we have a national disaster and provides fake reports for Rather's consumption. Then after a few minutes, the producers start yelling on Rather's earpiece that the caller is a prankster.
FR is slowing some for me also. I'm not sure if that's on my end or FR's. If it's on FR's, would it be increased traffic due to this?
Try this...
1. Take a page from a word Document.
2. Print it out at the "Normal" setting on your printer.
3. Crumple it up, and the straighten it out.
4. Run it through a FAX machine to make a copy.
Bingo- The text will look out of line, there will be artifacts, etc. all over the face of the document. If Dan Rather accepted these memos as legit without questioning their authenticity, he's stupid. If he accepted them knowing they were fakes, he's lying thriough his teeth.
(Hey, the "stupid or lying" line is what the Dims used on Reagan all the time- I think it's appropriate here!)
LC
Good catch!
And from another freeper:
1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out.
2--no one issues an "order" through a "memo." Maybe a letter, but nothing as informal as a "memo."
3--the signature (initials) of Lt. Col. Killian is clearly a cut-and-paste job. The last letter ("K") is cut off at the top, where two lines start to curve toward each other in a loop. Impossible to to do by hand. This signature was cut from another document and pasted or taped on the document.
4--No letterhead. Do you really think commanders typed out a the squadron on every letter? No. Letterhead was used.
5--No way there were superscripts back then. No way. Even if it was theoretically possible (which it wasn't), the national guard isn't exactly an early-adopter of technology. This ability wasn't even available at any price for several years.
Everyone should e-mail complaints to 60 Minutes. At least make them sweat.
I e-mailed 60 Minutes AND Hannity.
Once it's on Drudge, people will be looking in to it.
Unless Rather confirmed the path those docs took on their way from Killian's files to Rather's eyeballs, he should be fired immediately.
You don't go to air with unconfirmed documents. That's Investigative Journalism 101.
Sheesh. What was he thinking? What's the frequency, Kenneth?
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