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Memos Show Bush Suspended From Flying
AP ^ | 9/9/2004 | Pete Yost

Posted on 09/09/2004 12:06:40 AM PDT by Utah Girl

The White House released memos Wednesday night saying that George W. Bush was suspended from flying fighter jets for failing to meet standards of the Texas Air National Guard.

The Vietnam-era memos add new dimensions to the bare-bones explanation of Bush's aides over the years that he was suspended simply because he decided to skip his annual physical exam. The exam was scheduled during a year in which Bush left Texas, where he had been flying fighter jets, to work on a U.S. Senate campaign in Alabama.

White House communications director Dan Bartlett told CBS'"60 Minutes II," which first obtained the memos, that Bush's superiors granted permission to train in Alabama in a non-flying status and that "many of the documents you have here affirm just that."

"On this date I ordered that 1st Lt. Bush be suspended from flight status due to failure to perform to USAF/TexANG standards and failure to meet annual physical examination ... as ordered," states an Aug. 1, 1972, memo by Lt. Col. Jeremy Killian.

n a memo a year later that uses only last names, Killian points to turmoil among Bush's superiors over how to evaluate his performance because there was no "feedback" from Guard officials in Alabama in 1972 and 1973 where Bush had been largely inactive.

"Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush," Killian wrote on Aug. 18, 1973. "I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job - Harris gave me a message today from Grp (Bush's unit) regarding Bush's OETR (officer evaluation) and Staudt is pushing to sugar coat it. Bush wasn't here during rating period and I don't have any feedback from 187th in Alabama. I will not rate."

The memo concludes: "Harris took the call from Grp today. I'll backdate but won't rate. Harris agrees."

Walter B. Staudt was commander of the Texas National Guard and Lt. Col. Bobby Hodges was one of Bush's superiors who two years earlier had rated Bush an outstanding young pilot and officer and a credit to his unit. Lt. Col. William D. Harris Jr. was another superior of Bush's.

A third Killian memo makes clear that Killian was concerned from the outset over Bush's plan to go to Alabama because the military had spent a substantial sum of money turning Bush into a pilot and that his National Guard duties might suffer if he went elsewhere.

"Phone call from Bush," Killian wrote in a May 19, 1972, memo. "Discussed options of how Bush can get out of coming to drill from now through November. ... Says that he is working on another campaign for his dad. ... We talked about him getting his flight physical situation fixed ... Says he will do that in Alabama if he stays in a flight status."

The memo added that Bush "has this campaign to do and other things that will follow and may not have the time. I advised him of our investment in him and his commitment."

The White House told CBS that Bush "met his drills then when he came back" from Alabama "and that's why he received an honorable discharge."

With national security and the war on terrorism looming large on voters' minds, supporters of Bush and Democratic nominee John Kerry are attacking each candidate's Vietnam War records. Republicans have accused Kerry, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, of fabricating the events which led to his five medals. Democrats point to gaps in Bush's stateside Air National Guard service in 1972 and 1973 to say Bush shirked his duty.

Asked about Killian's memo which gives two reasons for Bush's suspension, Bartlett told CBS, "That might be official language." Bartlett said "the records have been clear for years that President Bush did not take a physical because he did not need to take a physical because, obviously, the choice was that he was going to be performing in a different capacity."

Asked about Killian's statement in a memo about the military's investment in Bush, Bartlett told CBS: "For anybody to try to interpret or presume they know what somebody who is now dead was thinking in any of these memos, I think is very difficult to do."

On Tuesday, the Defense Department released more than two dozen pages of records about Bush and his former Texas unit. They showed Bush flew for 336 hours in military jets after his flight training and ranked in the middle of his class.

Pentagon officials said they discovered the documents released Tuesday while performing a more comprehensive search "out of an abundance of caution" in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Associated Press.

The newly released records also showed that while Bush says he was in Alabama training with another Guard unit in 1972, his home unit in Texas was participating in the air defense of the southern United States by keeping two jet fighters constantly ready for launch within five minutes' notice.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ap; bush; killian; ltbush; mediabias; nationalguard; tang
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To: shrinkermd
Ok, let's all agree the documents are real and then discuss them. The whole matter evolves around Bush's desire to help his dad and to find out how to resolve the conflict with his duty. We can see that he wished to do both, inquired as to how to do it and eventually did it. Nothing sneaky or wrong with what he did.

Title this: Duty to God, my Country and my Father.

61 posted on 09/09/2004 5:11:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Utah Girl

Let's keep talking about the era. The Bush people won't mind a bit.


62 posted on 09/09/2004 5:22:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Howlin

FAA regs prohibit flying on an expired medical certificate. I assume the same holds true for military pilots. IF his medical had expired, suspension from flight status would be automatic.


63 posted on 09/09/2004 5:25:59 AM PDT by StudPilot
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To: StudPilot
I believe someone else has confirmed what you're saying. It was put in memo form to substantiate it. I gather that these are not official records but personal file records. Why do they still exist? I'm betting others don't. And if everyones do exist, there must be LOTSA MEMOS on Kerry.

Didn't the Airforce have Official Stationary? or at least watermarked stationary?

64 posted on 09/09/2004 5:35:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Utah Girl

ping


65 posted on 09/09/2004 5:46:40 AM PDT by embedded_rebel
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To: Godebert

Throw a little red meat out, a Peroutka blowfly is soon to wing in.


66 posted on 09/09/2004 6:01:31 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Chaguito; Howlin
1960s Manual and electric front strike typewriters remained the office standard until the IBM Selectric with its golf-ball type-element was introduced in 1961. The Selectric's carriage was stationary while the type-element moved back and forth across the page. As was true of earlier single-element typewriters, the type-element on the Selectric could be changed to permit writing in different fonts and languages. Nice try though
67 posted on 09/09/2004 6:41:08 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Chaguito

The IBM Selectric could do those things & was the first choice by professional typists of that day.


68 posted on 09/09/2004 7:12:50 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: commonsense04

How would the White House be in a position to know if these memos are true or not? There are millions of documents relating to Vietnam era soldiers-Bush isn't going to know about these memos because they were not in his file. He has no way of knowing if they are correct or not. It could be this guy didn't like Bush tried to 'get' him-this happens a lot in the service (navy brat). Then, another officer who likes whoever the former guy is out to get...puts in his two sense. The highest ranking/most politically powerful Officer wins...but plenty of memos are written. I have a friend (female helicopter pilot) who was attacked by her new CO...a general went to bat for her and ultimately prevailed...but you can be bet there are some really ugly memos written by her CO out there-35 years from now the context will not be known.


69 posted on 09/09/2004 7:13:22 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: StudPilot

And if you're going to let your license lapse, there's no reason to bother with the physical.


70 posted on 09/09/2004 7:16:15 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Sacajaweau

And pilots were returning from Vietnam at that time, they had combat experience and would be better qualified to do the job than President Bush at that time.


71 posted on 09/09/2004 7:18:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Smartaleck

You're a bit faster & give more info. LOL


72 posted on 09/09/2004 7:38:59 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Utah Girl

My thoughts were quite a bit different than most of the ones expressed here.

I saw the headline, then read the article, and found the headline to be extremely misleading.

The headline and first sentence implies that Bush was suspended for failing somehow. The article then goes on to show that he didn't want to fly, that he wanted to be transferred to a non-flying position in Alabama, and that he wanted to campaign for his dad.

I didn't think of "forgery" or anything like that. It looks to me that he fulfilled the minimum requirements of his duties so that he could campaign for his dad. Nothing to brag about, but no scandal there. He was honorably discharged. I don't see what the big deal is and I don't think most of America will either. I think this is a non-issue.


73 posted on 09/09/2004 8:20:33 AM PDT by Miztiki
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To: Utah Girl

This is why I said Bush should have denounced the SBV ads, let them continue on their own. He'd be in the clear on all this.


74 posted on 09/09/2004 9:30:11 AM PDT by Soundman4x4
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To: Soundman4x4

No -he would not be in the clear...the Dems would have annouced that Bush had admitted collusion...just as they spun the resignations of Ginsberg and others. Don't you understand. no matter what the President does or says...the Dems are coming after him. We can hope that Americans have too much sense to believe this nonsense.


75 posted on 09/09/2004 10:15:33 AM PDT by nyconse
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