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Memos Show Bush Suspended From Flying
AP ^ | 9/9/2004 | Pete Yost

Posted on 09/09/2004 12:06:40 AM PDT by Utah Girl

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What a tempest in a teapot. The mind numbing thing about it is that the MSM is willing to believe the memos of a DEAD man, and are totally unwilling to interview the Swift Boat Veterans.
1 posted on 09/09/2004 12:06:40 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
The White House released memos Wednesday night saying that George W. Bush was suspended from flying fighter jets for failing to meet standards of the Texas Air National Guard.

The first sentence; a complete and utter lie.

2 posted on 09/09/2004 12:08:06 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

Yep. I've been reading this tripe from various sources all day. We MUST fight for corrections and clarifications -- and not on page C-16.


3 posted on 09/09/2004 12:10:20 AM PDT by JennysCool (Funny how militant environmentalists always ruin the lawn)
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To: JennysCool
Memorandum, May 4, 1972

Memo to File, May 19, 1972

Memorandum For Record,
Aug. 1, 1972


Memo to File, Aug. 18, 1973
4 posted on 09/09/2004 12:10:43 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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The documents are almost certainly forgeries. They are in proportional font with superscripts, neither of which would be found on armed forces issue typewriters in 1972.

I have contacted Drudge, on the off-chance that he might be interested in this kind of thing. Also advised 60 Minutes (HaHaHa).

5 posted on 09/09/2004 12:11:52 AM PDT by Chaguito
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FWIW, they were giving a completely different spin on this nonsense on the KABC radio hourly newscast. They referred to Barnes as a Democrat donor, and said that there were documents showing that Bush was suspended from flying, but it didn't matter because he had been approved to do duty at a non-flying unit.

The smear won't work if the MSM isn't working off the same playsheet.


6 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:17 AM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: Utah Girl

Want to know why the RATs had no bounce, and the GOP a big one?

Simple - the media.

Prior to the formal RAT convention, the Socialist media had been conducting a continous convention on their behalf. No bounce, because the public wasn't exposed to anything new.

Prior to the GOP convention, the Socialist media filtered and blocked the GOP message. A huge bounce resulted when the GOP was able to speak directly to the public for almost the first time.

Moral of the story?

Bush needs to pierce the Socialist media blockade by making and leading the news - meeting with Putin, going to Florida, announcing new initiatives, etc.


7 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:00 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Freepers are Crusader Warriors)
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To: Utah Girl
A third Killian memo makes clear that Killian was concerned from the outset over Bush's plan to go to Alabama because the military had spent a substantial sum of money turning Bush into a pilot and that his National Guard duties might suffer if he went elsewhere.

I'd like to see how they come up with that.

8 posted on 09/09/2004 12:14:14 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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Yep. Unfortunately, the MO seems to be to put smears out about President Bush (this National Guard smear, and Susan Estrich with the acoholic nonsense.) It gets in the voter's minds, and then the MSM can repent at their leisure. It is despicable.


9 posted on 09/09/2004 12:15:47 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Howlin

Thanks! And I hope all is going better for you.


10 posted on 09/09/2004 12:15:59 AM PDT by JennysCool (Funny how militant environmentalists always ruin the lawn)
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To: Howlin

Especially from 'memos' coming from a dead man. How convenient.


11 posted on 09/09/2004 12:16:39 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl

FROM a dead man QUOTING other dead men.


12 posted on 09/09/2004 12:17:58 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Utah Girl

This whole 'national guard' thing has worked so well for john kerry and the dems in the past, it's no wonder they're trying it yet again!

Seriously, people know bush by now. They know how he reacts to threats to our national security. He's been given a challenge to our country that's unrivaled in the past 60 years and performed how a commander in chief is expected to perform.



What the kerryites don't get is why the swiftvets were so effective- john kerry was an unknown coming into this election. He attempted to define himself based on his experience in vietnam 35 years ago, and found that rug pulled out from under him. The swift vets were devasting because he had nothing else to stand on.

The libs and the press will huff and puff and think this is going to blow down the bush white house. But it's pointless because people have already formed their impression of bush, for better or for worse. They're going to see this and say "so what". And they're going to be thinking that this makes the kerry campaign look even more pathetic.


13 posted on 09/09/2004 12:18:21 AM PDT by flashbunny
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During the Clinton years I wrote several memos to my Commander saying the same thing because the Clinton policy was to cut 1 million active duty any way we could.

The problem was the good guys wanted out because they were offered $50,000 - $150,000 bonuses to get out.

The idiots didn't want to get out because they knew they couldn't make it in the real world so I always wrote that the Gov't has spent XXX thousands training this person and we can't afford to lose him ect.. It never worked but I tried to make my point.

If Bush was a slug this commander wouldn't have tried to keep him !

14 posted on 09/09/2004 12:21:25 AM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: Enduring Freedom

You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this.


15 posted on 09/09/2004 12:24:51 AM PDT by Avenger
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To: Utah Girl

Where did CBS get these memos? I assume there would be hundreds of other memos by Bush's commanding officer, from the same source of a similar nature on other pilots also available.


16 posted on 09/09/2004 12:26:02 AM PDT by igoramus987
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The first sentence; a complete and utter lie.

I don't have a link, but everything I've seen on the talk shows has the White House all but admitting that the memos from Killian are for real. I have not seen anyone from the white house question the legitimacy of the documents. They did, however, question what Killian was thinking when he wrote the memos. Of course we will never be able to ask Killian about that because he died many years ago.
17 posted on 09/09/2004 12:26:19 AM PDT by commonsense04
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The White House did NOT release these memos.

And I don't remember them vouching for them. I saw the interview.


18 posted on 09/09/2004 12:32:39 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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They didn't say.


19 posted on 09/09/2004 12:33:44 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the great research that you, and others, are doing here. It's going to make a real-world difference.


20 posted on 09/09/2004 12:35:44 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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