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I fear an American child slaughter is planned (Minnesota)
opinion | 8 Sept 04 | FinalApproach29er

Posted on 09/08/2004 6:58:09 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er

An excerpt from Steyn's latest has me suspicious that a slaughter of schoolkids is planned for America soon-maybe before the election.

Here is Steyn excerpt:

Could what happened in Beslan happen in the US? Two months ago, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported on a fellow called Mohamad Kamal Elzahabi, a suspected terrorist who'd fought with his fellow jihadi in Chechnya and somehow wound up in Minnesota, where he'd applied for licences to transport hazardous materials and drive school buses.

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Now, what if some less suspicious "white-looking" Chechen, or female, or some local recruit(s) starts driving school bus and and shows for work up one day and rigs a bus full of kids with explosives? Background checks can be defeated with enough planning. I doubt the enemy will make the same mistake twice.

We are catching way too many suspects up here in Minneapolis. Wonder if this is happening in your city also?


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Minnesota; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chechens; schools; steyn; terrorist
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To: Finalapproach29er

Minnesota/Canada...it's a 'border thing'. But, it's very complicated and no one, not even our elected officials who took an oath, can find a way to prevent the enemy from sneaking in.../sarcasm


221 posted on 09/08/2004 10:33:08 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Finalapproach29er

THEY WOULDN'T DARE!!!!!!!!!


222 posted on 09/08/2004 10:33:10 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: numberonepal

Spitballs!


223 posted on 09/08/2004 10:33:23 AM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: daybreakcoming; Happy2BMe

Calypso Louis BTTT


224 posted on 09/08/2004 10:34:50 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Homeschool works...


225 posted on 09/08/2004 10:35:55 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Finalapproach29er

I have always been puzzled as to why no terrorists have simply truck-bombed an elementary school.


226 posted on 09/08/2004 10:36:44 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: jpsb
Excellent first steps. I agree with what you wrote.

Red

227 posted on 09/08/2004 10:36:55 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I love the 1st Amendment...Zell Miller can speak the truth.)
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To: BenLurkin
Michelle Malkin in the Bay Area Tonite!

Next week, I'll be speaking at U.C. Berkeley on September 8th at 7:00 pm (Dwinelle Hall). The event is sponsored by the Berkeley College Republicans.

Bay Area fans who can't make it to Berkeley should tune in for my appearances on Melanie Morgan and Lee Rodgers' show (KSFO) on Tuesday the 7th at 7:00 am Pacific and the Ronn Owens show (KGO) on Wednesday the 8th at 10:00 am Pacific.

228 posted on 09/08/2004 10:42:45 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Irene Adler
I am not sure they were ever anything but an urban legend. If other FReepers actually participated in such drills, I would be interested to know.

I grew up and attended school in a suburb of Omaha, Nebraska. We had the Strategic Air Command nearby, and as kids we always talked about how we would be "the first to be bombed" if a war broke out against the USSR. We conducted "under the desk" drills, probably once a year or so. This would have been in the late 1960s and early 1970s in grade school. We did not have these drills in middle or high school.

We also practiced tornado drills, where we all sat against the hall way walls. Those were less scary than the nuclear drills.

229 posted on 09/08/2004 10:49:35 AM PDT by Blue Eyes (When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore.)
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To: daybreakcoming; dennisw; SJackson; yonif; Salem; Geist Krieger; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; ...
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God will destroy America by the hands of the Muslims....God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims." – Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan

* * *

SPEWING HATE IN SAVIOUR'S DAY SPEECH FOLLOWING WORLD TOUR, LOUIS FARRAKHAN CONDEMNS AMERICA AND THE JEWS

New York, NY, March 5, 1996...Calling Jews "wicked deceivers of the American people" and the American Government "rotten to the core," Minister Louis Farrakhan spewed hatred in a speech before thousands of supporters following his recent trip to some of the world's bloodiest, most anti-democratic nations. Speaking at the Nation of Islam's (NOI) Saviour's Day gathering in Chicago on February 25th, he praised Muammar Qaddafi as his "friend" and "brother," and described how Iraqis "love their man," Saddam Hussein. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said the recent extremist rhetoric is consistent with the racial and religious animus that characterized Minister Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam before the more moderate appeal of his Million Man March. The League released excerpts from the speech, together with Travels With Tyrants: Minister Louis Farrakhan's Anti-American World Tour, a report detailing the 27-day trip, where he visited Libya, Iraq and Iran, among other countries.

"On his trip, Louis Farrakhan -- who was recently saluted by eminent civil rights and political figures at the March in our nation's capital -- publicly embraced foreign countries the United States considers sponsors of terrorism," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "Both his Saviour's Day speech and our report reconfirm that the Nation of Islam is an extremist organization with a racist ideology and an apocalyptic vision of America's future, and that Mr. Farrakhan is an unrepentant bigot."

On Tour, ADL Reports an 'Itinerary of Hate' Minister Farrakhan announced in January 1996 he was taking the message of the Million Man March to African and Middle Eastern nations. Travels With Tyrants, prepared by the agency's Civil Rights Division, documents an itinerary of hate, including the following:

* Nigeria -- By reportedly expressing support for the military ruler, Sani Abacha, Minister Farrakhan undermined the efforts of many Black community leaders who have harshly criticized the military junta. He also rebuked criticism of Mr. Abacha's execution of Nigerian writer and activist Ken Saro-Wiwa.

* Libya -- According to reports from Libya's news agency, JANA, Mr. Farrakhan and Mr. Qaddafi agreed to work together to mobilize "oppressed Blacks, Arabs, Muslims and Red Indians" in the United States to influence the outcome of the 1996 elections and the shaping of U.S. foreign policy. Mr. Qaddafi reportedly agreed to bankroll a $1 billion Muslim lobby in America to help bring these plans to fruition. "And I'm gonna accept it," Mr. Farrakhan said.

* Sudan -- The NOI leader met with Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir and Hassan al-Turabi, the leader of Sudan's ruling party. Under Mr. Turabi's influence, the Sudan has become a launching pad for Islamic extremist terrorism.

* Iran --An Iranian newspaper quoted Minister Farrakhan as saying, "God will destroy America by the hands of the Muslims....God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims." The United States State Department described Mr. Farrakhan's trip to Iran, and his earlier trip to Libya, as "shameful" and "cavorting with dictators."

* Iraq -- Mr. Farrakhan met with Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and, referring to the U.N. sanctions imposed following the 1991 Gulf War, said at a news conference, "We visited the children's hospital...and I must say if I were made of stone, seeing what I saw today would bring tears from my eyes. Sanctions is a crime against humanity." He added, "Visiting the hospital that we visited today would be, or could be, compared to visiting one of the [Nazi] death camps."

At Home, A Defiant Speech

The following quotations are excerpted from Louis Farrakhan's Saviour's Day speech:

On America

America is a modern Rome. America is a modern Egypt. America is a modern Babylon. America is a modern Sodom and Gomorrah. There is no wicked nation in the past that approaches the evil that is practiced in America on a daily basis. I am not saying that there are not good Americans, white and brown and black and yellow and red. But you are like sheep. Your government is rotten to the core. Now bring me before the government. You are deceiving the American people. And you, press, are an agent of the deception.

On Qaddafi

When the Million Man March was over, the first call that I got internationally was from Muammar Qaddafi. Qaddafi's a revolutionary, he's my friend, he's my brother. And I would never deny him because you don't like him. You say, you say he's the one who set the bomb off that killed all those people on Pan Am 103? You're a liar. For two years you said it was Syria. What happened. Where's your proof? You said he must turn over his nationals. He said he would -- if you would try them in a neutral country. He's not going to turn them over to you America, or to you, England. What's wrong with the International Court of Justice at the Hague? What's wrong with Egypt, what's wrong with Geneva? What's wrong with a third country? Since you say he's guilty, put his people on trial and prove it. But you're using the grief of those people who lost their children and loved ones. There's a book out that's called The Trail of the Octopus, that's banned in America -- I wish I had my copy so I could show you -- I want you all to demand that that book be released in America... It traces this bomb, and who did it. [Emphasis added]

You hate Qaddafi, and I understand. But your enemy ain't mine. Unless I'm your slave. You know, when somebody troubles the master, the slave says, "our house is in trouble. Master, they don't like us. You sick master? We sick too." Qaddafi is hated because he is the leader of a small country that is rich, but he uses his money to finance liberation struggles. And since he's financing liberation struggles against imperialists and Zionists and oppressors, the Zionists hate him, the imperialists hate him, the neo-colonialists hate him, America hates him. Well you must be all three of them. I love him. And he called me. He's a revolutionary, and I told him I am, too. And I said "but I don't believe in the gun." I'm like David. My brother Saul's got sword, I'm ready to fight Goliath, but I don't need my brother's sword... [Emphasis added]

And when he [Qaddafi] saw the Million Man March, he saw my words come to reality, and he called me on the phone, and he said brother, the wealth of Libya, I will put behind the Nation of Islam. That's what he said. That's more than a billion. And I'm gonna accept it. It ain't a business transaction, it's a grant...

You say, Farrakhan, you're gonna have to register as the agent of a foreign power. You're right. You're right, I'm registered now as an agent of a foreign power. But the foreign power I'm an agent of is Master Farad Muhammad. Now, I want you to bring me before Congress, and ask me to register as a foreign agent... And I'm going to call the role of how many Senators are honorary members of the Israeli Knesset. Feeling pretty good right along about now. Moses and Aaron about to cast their rod down, and swallow up the lies of these demons and liars and hypocrites and devils. When you bring me before Congress, I'm gonna call the role of all the Congressmen who are honorary members of the Israeli Knesset, and get contributions from the Zionists' AIPAC. And then I want you to register as an agent of a foreign power. Every year you give Israel 4-6 billion dollars of the taxpayers money, and you haven't asked the taxpayers one damn thing. Who are you an agent of? Bring me before Congress! Let's have the show down at the O.K. Corral at high noon. [Emphasis added]

Well what's wrong with Brother Qaddafi giving some money? Giving, not loaning. Not no business deal. Give the money. What've you got to say about it, Government of America? We're cleaning up the mess that you made...

On Iraq -- on American Policy/Hussein's Popularity

See, sanctions is a weapon of mass destruction. America is angry with Saddam Hussein because his people love him. And they want to punish the Iraqi people to make the Iraqi people rise up and overthrow Saddam. They had a so-called election, a referendum. Ninety-nine percent of the people vote for their man. You can't get that in America. They love their man.

On Iraq-- Death Camp Comparison

We saw babies dying of leukemia, because in the bombs was certain, uh, uranium, and now there's just this mass breakout of cancer. It's treatable, but there's no medicine. So Dr. Alim [Muhammad, NOI Minister of Health] looked at it, and he said it's like presiding over a death camp, because there's no medicine, it's not a hospital any more.

On Jews

But God has made me in America to walk in the footsteps of Jesus. Now listen, this is a modern Rome. The Jews don't like me; they didn't like Jesus. The modern Romans, the Jews put the Romans on Jesus, and the Zionists are stimulating and pulling strings in Washington. Get Farrakhan. The Million Man March was akin to Jesus going to the tomb of Lazarus and calling Lazarus out of the tomb. Listen to me. All Jesus said was 'Lazarus, come forth,' and he came forth, his hands bound, his feet bound, and a napkin over his eyes. And Jesus said, 'Satan, loose him, and let him go.' I created no black man. I have no control over you, none. I just made a call, and they started coming from every corner of America and from different parts of the world. And they came to Washington, D.C. Washington today is like Jesus going to Jerusalem or like Paul going to Rome. I went riding on the back of the masses of the people. And many Jews were on the sideline when I offered a dialogue. You turned me down. I'm not your enemy. I'm an inviting (?) to God. But you turned me down and you started arguing, and just your words that were in The New York Times, they're right in the Bible. 'We've done everything we could to stop him,' that's what they said of Jesus. 'And we have failed.' They said, 'let us take him now because if we don't the whole world will go after him.' And I knew that the Million Man March was going to lead to my crucifixion, I knew it. The Hosannas of the people, now they charge me with treason and sedition and all of these wicked things and they know I'm innocent of that. But I'm here, and I'm not running from you. I'll be in Washington if you subpoena me. And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you. [Emphasis added]

The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

230 posted on 09/08/2004 10:55:41 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you - 55 days until November 2nd - 9/11 is this Saturday.)
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To: sauron

Ditto. Grew up in LA. Born in 1966. Private and public schools with plenty o' earthquake and duck & cover drills.

Besides those drills I remember the hoopla over the movie "The Day After" -- 'member that? All about the day after a nuclear attack on American soil....teachers talked about it, parents were encouraged to watch it with their kids so they wouldn't be scared.

Aaaaaahhhhh the good old days of the nuclear freeze movement.


231 posted on 09/08/2004 10:59:35 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: cyclotic

Fellow homeschooler bump!


232 posted on 09/08/2004 11:01:16 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I've SEEN the "Village" -- and I don't want it raising my children!)
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To: hosepipe
RINOS getting mad is a GOOD THING.... as they wag their fingers in the light like an autistic child.. You done good.

I have made some enemys.
233 posted on 09/08/2004 11:02:14 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: RightOnline

I like your letter.. I only wish that "The powers that be" were as brave as you.


234 posted on 09/08/2004 11:03:31 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (It's not Bush's fault... it's the media's fault!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Bingo:

This is why we fight the war offensively. Defense is too difficult to play. Kerry fails to understand that -- when the terrorist is on the school bus, with explosives, all your good options are already gone.

Bush is taking the War to the enemy, and he is making them change their thinking. It's already happening in many countries. But a wounded animal is dangerous, and we may well see another tragedy on US soil.

235 posted on 09/08/2004 11:04:03 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Finalapproach29er

All public schools should be surrounded by fences and have at least 2 guards. Maybe some of the bigger highschools should have a ID (which is read by a computer) which is needed to enter the school. During this step, school kids in all 3 levels of schooling should be taught about reporting suspicious packages, persons and how to act during a terror attack.


236 posted on 09/08/2004 11:07:56 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Can you supply a link to the Minnesota bus story or a link to the Steyn article you reference please? I'm in Minnesota and have children that go to private schools. I'm not sure if that makes my children more suseptable or not, but I'd like to open up a dialog with the school principle about contingency planning.

Thanks and God's Grace!
237 posted on 09/08/2004 11:09:47 AM PDT by griffin
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To: yonif

"All public schools should be surrounded by..."

Why just public??


238 posted on 09/08/2004 11:10:53 AM PDT by griffin
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To: griffin
Why just public??

I guess because the state could force only public schools to do so, not private ones.

239 posted on 09/08/2004 11:17:26 AM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Finalapproach29er
I doubt the enemy will make the same mistake twice.

As, presumably, will we.

This school thing is very unlikely if, as in California, most schools are surrounded by a fence, and all doors are not accessible from public streets and roads, as in Beslan. Of course everyone, from the Feds down to the smallest town must be aware and prepare appropriately.

240 posted on 09/08/2004 11:21:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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