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Kerry's Gun Posing Doesn't Fool Gun Owners, Group Says
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 9/07/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 09/07/2004 3:02:40 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
After receiving the rifle on Monday, Kerry was quoted as saying, "I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me"

This guy says the stupidest things I've heard from a presidential candidate. What was the purpose of this remark ?

21 posted on 09/07/2004 4:11:03 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Maigrey

I guess we will just have to wait and see. Even if someone did give him a pardon, the public will be put off by knowing what he did. The FBI records should be held up on the signs FReepers carry! Copies should be posted on telephone polls!


22 posted on 09/07/2004 4:12:57 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: kcvl

It is often not pointed out exactly why so many feel that the 2nd Amendment is the most important.

Although I think that a lot of gunowners only know this instinctively, it is because an armed population is the last and best defence against a tryrannical government.

Whether from the left or right power corrupts and we can never be certain that our leaders will no attempt to take away our freedoms.

The ability of the population (which beleives in democracy) to defend itself not against criminals, but against a government that would take away basic rights is essential to the American way of life.

Not to mention that it makes it impossible for a foreign power too.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 4:13:36 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: kattracks
"I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me" -- an apparent reference to his upcoming political debate . . .

I had to look back at the source to be sure this was a real quote. I can't believe he said that!

24 posted on 09/07/2004 4:14:47 AM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. ¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Maigrey
Kerry raced back from Iowa, missing a day of campaigning, to vote for banning all firearm ammo that isn't a rimfire round... It failed miserably.

It succeeded in destroying the firearms manufacturers frivolous lawsuit protection bill, which was it's main purpose. The Anti-gun Axis knows that right now their most promising strategy is to make the cost of business so high for manufacturers that they put the civilian gun industry out of business in the United States. If we don't get serious reform across the board in this country, we may sue ourselves into a third world nation in my lifetime.

One assumes Edwards will be of no particular help along these lines.

25 posted on 09/07/2004 4:16:21 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: MistyCA; cardinal4

The Kerrorist looks like Saddam Hussein on the steps of one of his palaces, brandishing the weapon. Hmmmmm. Saddam's palaces, the Kerrorist's palaces? A coincidence? I think not.


26 posted on 09/07/2004 4:22:47 AM PDT by Ax (How do I go about getting a DD-215?)
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To: kcvl
John Kerry strongly supports all of the federal gun laws

That statement, being unconstitutional, is what will cost John Kerry 5 million votes. Al Gore found that out the hard way in 2000.

Gun safety and gun confiscation are two different things. I laugh when you bring up the old term "Gun Safety". Your really funny.

27 posted on 09/07/2004 4:25:49 AM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: kattracks
The Associated Press circulated a photograph of the Democratic presidential candidate holding the rifle.

It was a damn shotgun. Appeared to be a Remington 11-87.

Associated Press can't get anything right.

Or is this just more obfuscation and disinformation from an extremely biased organization?

28 posted on 09/07/2004 4:40:36 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Islam is a false religion. It's adherents and followers are doomed to hell.)
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To: Ax

LOL!


29 posted on 09/07/2004 4:44:17 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: kattracks

Kerry and his "rifle." (Actually, a semi-auto shotgun that he probably wants to ban.)

30 posted on 09/07/2004 4:50:23 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: kattracks
Let's see, since the GOP convention all we've been hearing from girly-media is "Stop the hate!", "GOP negative campaigning"!, "GOP attacks!", inumerable variants of the same message- Republicans are mean.

But when karrie shouts this thinly veiled threat: "After receiving the rifle on Monday, Kerry was quoted as saying, "I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me", Big Media remains silent.

Just try to imagine the reaction by the nancy-boys and brunhilda-girls in Big Media if Bush were to have said that.

Free Republic is the only place I read what Big Media has to say. They get no hits, views or dollars from me.

Turn them off and shut them down!

AC

31 posted on 09/07/2004 4:58:04 AM PDT by Atomic Comet (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: kattracks
Let's see, since the GOP convention all we've been hearing from girly-media is "Stop the hate!", "GOP negative campaigning"!, "GOP attacks!", inumerable variants of the same message- Republicans are mean.

But when karrie shouts this thinly veiled threat: "After receiving the rifle on Monday, Kerry was quoted as saying, "I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me", Big Media remains silent.

Just try to imagine the reaction by the nancy-boys and brunhilda-girls in Big Media if Bush were to have said that.

Free Republic is the only place I read what Big Media has to say. They get no hits, views or dollars from me.

Turn them off and shut them down!

AC

32 posted on 09/07/2004 4:58:24 AM PDT by Atomic Comet (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: MediaMole

".....and then as soon as I get elected I'll have Thereeeyza contribute a couple $Mil to the Statuary Tribute Committee. Hmmmm....how about me in Bronze on a horse with a sword? Yeah that's it.


33 posted on 09/07/2004 5:13:21 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: kattracks
Monsieur Jean Kerry Pondering 'Gift' From; "the po' folks":


'Stupid Hicks, What A Piece Of Junk -
This Is Going Right In The Garbage.
I Wouldn't Use It As A Doorstop.'

34 posted on 09/07/2004 5:34:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: OldSmaj

"It was a damn shotgun. Appeared to be a Remington 11-87."

Yep! It looked exactly like the ones that....never mind!


Anyway, it appeared to be the Remington 1100 series.


35 posted on 09/07/2004 5:45:15 AM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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36 posted on 09/07/2004 5:56:19 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: megatherium

How many days?


37 posted on 09/07/2004 6:11:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: kattracks
Take a look at the latest DRUDGE headline

KERRY COSPONSORED BILL BANNING GUN HE WAVES



And I looooove this pic;

Owwww! I Put My Eye Out!

38 posted on 09/07/2004 8:34:24 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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He also voted for a measure that would have outlawed the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to a background check," Snyder said.

I wish our side would get this right when they make public statements. Proponents of the originally proposed gun show legislation claimed it was only intended to enforce the Brady law at gun shows the same as at retail stores. That was a lie, that procedure is already the law and has been standard practice at every gun show in the US for over 10 years. Everyone who sells guns as a means of business, whether at gun shows, gun stores, or any other venue, must have a Federal Firearms License and must conduct a Brady check on every firearms buyer except for those who are exempt from Brady such as LEOs and CC licensees. That's already the law and has been since 1993.

The problem, according to the anti-gunnners, is private gun owners who occasionally sell or trade their own firearms at or in the immediate vicinity of a gun show, and are not legally required to have an FFL or do the Brady check.

The trouble is that what they claimed to want is not what they actually intended the originally proposed law to do. The original proposal, now get this, would have made it illegal for anyone except federally licensed dealers, including mutual friends or even family members, to transfer a firearm from one to the other, by sale, trade, or gift, at or around an organized gun show without a Brady background check, OR EVEN IF the actual physical transfer is made at another location IF the transfer had been arranged or planned while attending a gun show, presumably at any point in time prior to the transfer. IOW, any unlicensed individual who at any future time sells, trades, or gives away a firearm which he or she had previously discussed at or on the grounds of a gun show with the receiving party, both the transferor, the transferee, and the gun show promoter would be in violation of a federal law which carries a up to a 10 year prison sentence. An utterly ridiculous proposal and totally impossible to enforce if it were ever made into law.

But the real zinger is this;
Under penalty of federal law, the original proposal would have made gun show promoters responsible for seeing that no such transfers are made or arranged at or on the grounds of a gun show which he or she promotes. The cost and record keeping needed to ensure compliance would be so expensive and impractical, actually impossible, that no promoter could possibly operate without violations occurring for which he/she would be equally as responsible as the parties to the violation. Of course no promoter would put him or her self in that totally impossible position, and that was the real, hidden intent of the originally proposed law, i.e., defacto abolition of gun shows.

As I understand the current situation, that proposed legislation has been revised somewhat to make it less objectionable to moderately pro-gun legislators who would not have voted for the original proposal. I believe the current proposal would eliminate those parts of the original that pertained to off-site transfers. But the promoter would still be responsible for all transfers made at or on the grounds of the show, and for security personnel and record keeping necessary to ensure that all participants in the event observe the Brady law. The promoter would still be held responsible for ensuring that all transfers made at the event go through a licensed dealer and pass the Brady check. However, the proposal would vastly increase the cost of operating a gun show, not to mention the greatly increased risk of prosecution for the promoter. Most promoters would probably go into another line of business rather than incur the liability and expense. The intent of the people who are pushing this proposal has not changed one iota, they still intend to abolish gun shows and private, unregulated gun transfers one way or another.

I apologize for the long post. I just think it's important that all gun owners and RKBA supporters realize what the antis are up to with this proposed law. Also, I might point out that our good RINO friend Johnny McCain is heavily involved in promoting this legislation. McCain, Schumer, Feinstein, Kerry, birds of a feather IMO.

39 posted on 09/07/2004 8:57:37 AM PDT by epow
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To: kattracks
John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.

John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!


John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971

KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!




September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.

-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.


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Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)


http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv

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40 posted on 09/07/2004 9:16:27 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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