Posted on 09/06/2004 12:32:58 AM PDT by sixxiron
With the new "dream team" of Carville and Begala in place, I thought it worthy of posting Carville's utter trashing of Zell and his blaming Republicans for making Zell turn on his Dem buddies. Key points: Zell Miller was Carville's former employer and Miller officiated Carvilles wedding!!! There is no bottom for Carville and this marks the beginning of the next phase in the battle for the White House. I wonder if Carl Rove forced Zell into writing a best-selling book which chronicled his disgust with his party more than a year ago.
Here is the transcript from MTP:
MR. RUSSERT: James Carville you ran that man's campaign for governor of Georgia in 1990.
MR. CARVILLE: Right, I did. It's a shame they put that poor man out there in the twilight of his career with a bunch of half-truths. Then they put him on TV after, out there making a fool of himself, and they're showing how he said, "Well, you said Kerry did this." It's the very thing that Dick Cheney recommended. "You said that he called them occupiers." In fact, President Bush had called them occupiers on three separate occasions.
You know, it's a shame, because Senator Miller's had a distinguished mid-career, and I'm very sad for him and the people that work for him that he's going to be remembered, as Joe Klein said, you know, probably the most, you know, hate-filled speech that he's ever seen at a convention. But the problem is, how does a man who sits on this thing, the vice president, who says that we expect to be greeted with roses and you said--you asked him in a follow-up question, "Well, suppose there's insurgents?" He said, "Tim, we don't expect that." How could he possibly, possibly question John Kerry's judgment about being fit to make decisions as a commander in chief?
The record of this administration is already out there. The president has admitted--and when it comes to the war on terror, in June, President Bush said, we can win the war on terror. By August, he had changed his mind and said we can't win the war on terror. So I think there are legitimate questions about judgment. I think there are legitimate questions that don't relate to what happened in Vietnam or not. But they relate to the record of this administration, the miscalculations, the errors and they are all in that report from this royal institute in London, that we've already lost this. We're not going to have a democracy there.
MR. RUSSERT: Mary Matalin, the vice president did say we'd be greeted as liberators, and now, Jim Schlesinger, Republican secretary of defense said that we are unprepared for the insurgency.
MS. MATALIN: We have never, ever, in our history or any history in war, found on the ground plans that went exactly as were planned. It's called the moment of contingency. We have said, the president has said, that the march to Baghdad was completed more expeditiously than had been expected. And it is true that Iraq's become a magnet for all the terrorist, and we do want to fight them there. We don't want to fight them here. And we are winning. This Iraq is in a relatively short period of time on the road to self-government.
MR. RUSSERT: Senator Miller, spitballs, weak, wobbly. Was he over the top?
MS. MATALIN: No, this is--you know, Senator Miller is a man of great passion. If you look at his 1992 keynote Democratic convention speech, he was equally passionate. This is a man who is angry at his party, his party who left him. He is a delightful and loving and wonderful man who officiate at our wedding.
MR. CARVILLE: I love Senator Zell. I'm just so angry at what those cynical Republicans did to him, putting him up. and making him stay stuff that is indefensible.
MS. MATALIN: Well, you know, Senator Miller...
MR. CARVILLE: ...sticking him on TV when he was questioned on it...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller, since he's been in office, has been with the president. I saw him regularly on the Hill when I would go up there with the vice president. He was disappointed with his party on economic issues, on these issues of war and peace. He is a wonderful senator. He is a passionate man, brought just as much passion to the Democratic convention in 1992 and these guys just don't like the truth.
MR. RUSSERT: We've got to...
MR. CARVILLE: The difference is when Paul wrote Senator Miller's speech in '92 it was based on fact. When Karl Rove wrote Senator Miller's speech in 2004...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
MR. CARVILLE: ...it was based on no fact.
MS. MATALIN: I think I know who wrote Miller's speech.
MR. CARVILLE: You know?
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
Those two clowns are classic.
They're married and still very much in love.
Doesn't sound like he exactly thrashed ole Zell - just some 'tongue-in-cheek' humor from 'serpenthead'....*chuckle* if he DID turn on ole Zell, the Senator would probably be waiting for him later on with some brass knuckles (a la Chris Matthews)....*LOL*
Thank God, "Love is Blind"... otherwise there would be blood on the floor every night.
Did you watch this on the tube? She had her head in her hands for practically the whole exchange. She was shaking it back and forth, and every time she uncovered her face, it was clear that she could barely stomach her husband's comments. She was downright angry.
I have never understood that marriage. How she could fraternize with that snake is beyond me.
Carville is losing it. The Republicans made Miller do it? Does anybody on God's green earth believe that?
She sees something in him that we don't.
The man is good at what he does. He hasn't lost a step. Had Kerry not been so high on himself, Carville would have him ahead in the polls right now. Carville is the master of staying on message.
Wait a minute here...comments like these show that:
(1) Democrats don't believe that people have a mind of their own; or (2) Their people don't do anything unless they're put up to it by somebody.
Very telling, how these guys operate. Lock-step it is, and if all else fails, blame those evil Republicans.
Carville must think the electorate are completely devoid of reasoning ability.
CARVILLE TRASHES . . .
is like saying
CARVILLE CARVILLE'S . . .
Did you see her on TV last week? She's starting to look downright haggard and skanky as a result.
Print this out, e-mail it, spread it around.
I'm not quite convinced she does any longer.
I noticed that on the show today. You are right. He looks like the same old a--hole. Her age has hit her with an ugly stick.
MR. CARVILLE: The difference is when Paul wrote Senator Miller's speech in '92 it was based on fact. When Karl Rove wrote Senator Miller's speech in 2004...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
MR. CARVILLE: ...it was based on no fact.
MS. MATALIN: I think I know who wrote Miller's speech.
MR. CARVILLE: You know?
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
When Zell was questioned about his previous comments about how he said previously that Kerry supported the military - Zell said that he was just reading what someone gave him
Ol Carville better be careful, I hear Zell likes to dual :-)
Carville did not "trash" Miller, not by my reading of the transcript. James came off as more peeved at Miller than anything else. They have obviously known each other a long time - - he officiated at Carville's wedding and Carville ran his Senate campaign in 1990 - - and I think Carville here was just doing his mercenary spin thing. Playing the game.
He was definitely not over the top this time.
And husband and wife will work for the opposing campaigns. They did it before.
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