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1 posted on 09/06/2004 12:32:58 AM PDT by sixxiron
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AHAHAH CARVILL KKK AND ALL-FRIGHT!

Those two clowns are classic.

2 posted on 09/06/2004 12:37:27 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Kerry for a stronger America, through French Hygiene practices.)
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To: sixxiron

They're married and still very much in love.


3 posted on 09/06/2004 12:39:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Carville is losing it. The Republicans made Miller do it? Does anybody on God's green earth believe that?


7 posted on 09/06/2004 12:51:17 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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MR. CARVILLE: I love Senator Zell. I'm just so angry at what those cynical Republicans did to him, putting him up and making him say stuff that is indefensible.

Wait a minute here...comments like these show that:

(1) Democrats don't believe that people have a mind of their own; or (2) Their people don't do anything unless they're put up to it by somebody.

Very telling, how these guys operate. Lock-step it is, and if all else fails, blame those evil Republicans.

Carville must think the electorate are completely devoid of reasoning ability.

10 posted on 09/06/2004 12:56:20 AM PDT by pray4liberty
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CARVILLE TRASHES . . .

is like saying

CARVILLE CARVILLE'S . . .


11 posted on 09/06/2004 12:56:40 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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Uh, Mr. Serpenthead? Would you care to look at this, and then tell me how we are supposed to trust John Kerry as Commander in Chief?

Print this out, e-mail it, spread it around.

13 posted on 09/06/2004 12:57:35 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."--Putin / "A more sensitive war on terror." --Kerry)
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This was the most telling exchange:

MR. CARVILLE: The difference is when Paul wrote Senator Miller's speech in '92 it was based on fact. When Karl Rove wrote Senator Miller's speech in 2004...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
MR. CARVILLE: ...it was based on no fact.
MS. MATALIN: I think I know who wrote Miller's speech.
MR. CARVILLE: You know?
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.

When Zell was questioned about his previous comments about how he said previously that Kerry supported the military - Zell said that he was just reading what someone gave him

Ol Carville better be careful, I hear Zell likes to dual :-)

16 posted on 09/06/2004 1:01:51 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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Carville did not "trash" Miller, not by my reading of the transcript. James came off as more peeved at Miller than anything else. They have obviously known each other a long time - - he officiated at Carville's wedding and Carville ran his Senate campaign in 1990 - - and I think Carville here was just doing his mercenary spin thing. Playing the game.

He was definitely not over the top this time.


17 posted on 09/06/2004 1:02:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Sounds like this was the first attempt by Kerry's new team to change the subjet away from Vietnam. It won't work. Trashing Zell is exactly what the Bush campaign would love. It keeps them focused on someone who isn't even running for office.


21 posted on 09/06/2004 1:19:58 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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he didn't exactly trash Miller... he pittied him... also whenever Carville spoke, his wife listened and would shake her head a bit... but when she would speak, he would chuckle and laugh at her... he's a creep...


22 posted on 09/06/2004 1:22:29 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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Sheeesh... I didn't bother to count them all, but there's a massive amount of misspelled words in this article.

It's not CAR-VILLE... it's CAR-EVIL !!!

But I forgive you !!! ;-))

.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 1:41:23 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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I hope Clownville has a plan to deal with this:

Is John Kerry a war criminal? Consider the following.

After the Tet offensive North Vietnam was beaten, but with the Socialist press in America and the VVAW the North Vietnamese Communists decided to hold on.

This meant that instead of a US victory in South Vietnam and freedom for the South Vietnamese we had 10,000 - 15,000 more US deaths. America’s POW's were being tortured while listening to tapes of John "Traitor" Kerry calling them baby killers.

The VVAW, an antiwar group, which Kerry was one of the national leaders of, was receiving directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government. VVAW in contact with in contact with NV Communist Government

The directions were on how the VVAW should protest the Vietnam War.

The interaction became so depraved, that the North Vietnamese Communist contacted the VVAW via a phone call and advised the VVAW that they were getting ready to start an attack on US troops and that the VVAW was to be prepared to increase the protests against the increase in bombing that the NV Communists were sure would happen. This put our men in further danger because of John Kerry and VVAW actions. VVAW gets directions from the VS Communists

John Kerry had no concern for the lives of his fellow soldiers in Vietnam or the POW's, John Kerry only cared about himself and his ambition to become POTUS, whatever the cost.

How many deaths of United States servicemen does John Kerry have on his hands?

How many families has John Kerry's behavior as a VVAW leader and a traitor to his country caused untold pain and suffering to?

How many unnecessary tears have been cried because John Kerry betrayed our trust to help a Communist government?

Why didn't John Kerry speak out just one time against the war crimes of his "Comrades in Arms of the North Vietnamese Communists"?
35 posted on 09/06/2004 2:08:20 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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ZELL pulled the ultimate sin in the eyes of liberals.... He's sort of the Bill Cosby of the Democrats... He stood up, and told the unabashed, unspun, undeniable truth.. and just like Cosby they are going to go ape poop on him for it.


36 posted on 09/06/2004 2:14:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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Zell should challenge Carville to a duel.
Weapons: Cans of Raid at 10 paces.
Whoever is an insect will fall over.

(No offense to Mary Matalin, but I don't get how they stay married. Maybe they like to fight and make up? But that type of relationship usually doesn't last. Who knows.)

38 posted on 09/06/2004 2:31:18 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party- Save USA,-Vote a Dem out of office)
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Evidently loyalty to one's old friends is another of Carvile's failings.


41 posted on 09/06/2004 4:44:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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Carville, be glad I'm not in control. Discussion would be over.


50 posted on 09/06/2004 1:54:17 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: sixxiron

Here's the text of Zell Miller's 1992 speech to the Democratic Convention on behalf of Bill Clinton. Sounds to me like he's the same fiery speaker that they embraced then. Note his words about Bush 41 (could they not be described as "hateful"? Only, now, he's using that fiery speech against one of their own; and they dare call it "hate" speech.

See what you think:

"Zell Miller's Keynote Speech:
'Listen To This Voice'

NEW YORK, July 13, 1992

Here is the prepared text of the
keynote address of Monday night
by Georgia Gov. Zell Miller's to
the Democratic National Convention:


Listen to this voice.
It's a voice flavored by the Blue Ridge ... a voice
straight out of a remote valley hidden among the peaks and
hollows of the Appalachian Mountains ... a voice that's been
described as more barbed wire than honeysuckle.
That this kind of voice could travel here from a forgotten
corner of Appalachia is a testament to the grace of God and the
greatness of the Democratic Party.
This week we are gathered here to nominate a man from a
remote, rural corner of Arkansas to be president of the United
States of America.
That is powerful proof that the American dream still
lives... at least in the Democratic Party.
Bill Clinton is the only candidate for president who feels
our pain, shares our hopes and will work his heart out to
fulfill our dreams.
You see, I understand why Bill Clinton is so eager to see
the American dream kept alive for a new generation.
Because I, too, was a product of that dream.
I was born during the worst of the Depression on a cold
winter's day in the drafty bedroom of a rented house, and I was
my parent's hope for the future.
Franklin Roosevelt was elected that year, and would soon
replace generations of neglect with a whirlwind of activity,
bringing to our little valley a very welcome supply of God's
most precious commodity - hope.
My father, a teacher, died when I was two weeks old,
leaving a young widow with two small children.
But with my mother's faith in God - and Mr. Roosevelt's
voice on the radio - we kept going.
After my father's death, my mother with her own hands
cleared a small piece of rugged land.
Every day she waded into a neighbor's cold mountain creek,
carrying out thousands of smooth stones to build a house.
I grew up watching my mother complete that house from the
rocks she'd lifted from the creek and cement she mixed in a
wheelbarrow - cement that today still bears her hand prints.
Her son bears her hand prints, too.
She pressed her pride and her hopes and her dreams deep
into my soul.
So, you see, I know what Dan Quayle means when he says it's
best for children to have two parents.
You bet it is!
And it would be nice for them to have trust funds, too.
But we can't all be born rich, handsome and lucky ... and
that's why we have a Democratic Party.
My family would still be isolated and destitute if we had
not had FDR's Democratic brand of government.
I made it because Franklin Delano Roosevelt energized this
nation.
I made it because Harry Truman fought for working families
like mine.
I made it because John Kennedy's rising tide lifted even
our tiny boat.
I made it because Lyndon Johnson showed America that people
who were born poor didn't have to die poor.
And I made it because a man with whom I served in the
Georgia Senate - a man named Jimmy Carter - brought honesty and
decency and integrity to public service.
But what of the kids of today?
Who fights for the child of a single mother today? Because
without a government that is on their side, those children have
no hope. And when a child has no hope, a nation has no future.
I am a Democrat because we are the party of hope.
For 12 dark years the Republicans have dealt in cynicism
and skepticism. They've mastered the art of division and
diversion, and they have robbed us of our hope.
Too many mothers today cannot tell their children what my
mother told me - that working hard and playing by the rules can
make your dreams come true.
For millions, the American dream has become what the poet
called ''a dream deferred.''
And if you recall those words, he warned us that a dream
deferred can explode.
Robbed of hope, the voices of anger rise up, rise up from
working Americans, who are tired of paying more in taxes and
getting less in services.
And George Bush doesn't get it?
Americans cannot understand why the rich can buy the best
health care in the world, but all the rest of us get is rising
costs and cuts in coverage, or no health insurance at all.
And George Bush doesn't get it?
Americans cannot walk our streets in safety, because our
''tough-on-crime'' president has waged a phony war on drugs,
posing for pictures while cutting police, prosecutors and
prisons.
And George Bush doesn't get it?
Americans have seen plants closed down, jobs shipped
overseas and our hopes fade away as our economic position
collapses right before our very eyes.
And George Bush does not get it!
Four years ago, Mr. Bush told us he was a quiet man, who
hears the voices of quiet people.
Today, we know the truth. George Bush is a timid man who
hears only the voices of caution and the status quo.
Let's face facts: George Bush just doesn't get it.
He doesn't see it; he doesn't feel it, and he's done
nothing about it.
That's why we cannot afford four more years.
If the ''education president'' gets another term, even our
kids won't be able to spell potato.
If the ''law and order president'' gets another term, the
criminals will run wild, because our commander-in-chief talks
like Dirty Harry, but acts like Barney Fife.
If the ''environmental president'' gets another term, the
fish he catches off Kennebunkport will have three eyes.
And folks, after January, George Bush is going to have
plenty of time to go fishing.
So much for the millionaire.
But we've still got ourselves a billionaire ... a
billionaire!
He says he's an outsider who will shake up the system in
Washington.
But as far back as 1974 he was lobbying Congress for tax
breaks. He tried to turn $55,000 in contributions into a
special $15 million tax loophole that was tailor-made for him.
Sounds to me like instead of shaking the system up, Mr.
Perot's been shaking it down.
Ross says he'll clean out the barn, but he's been knee deep
in it for years.
If Ross Perot's an outsider, folks I'm from Brooklyn.
Mr. Perot's giving us salesmanship, not leadership. And
we're not buying it.
And so the choice in this election is clear - we've got us
a race between an aristocrat, an autocrat and a Democrat.
I know who I'm for.
I'm for Bill Clinton because he is a Democrat who does not
have to read a book or be briefed about the struggles of
single-parent families, or what it means to work hard for
everything he's ever received in life.
There was no silver spoon in sight when he was born, three
months after his father died.
No one ever gave Bill Clinton a free ride as he worked his
way through college and law school.
And the people at Yale couldn't believe it when he turned
down a good job in Washington to return to Arkansas and teach.
Bill Clinton is a Democrat who has the courage to tell some
of those liberals who think welfare should continue forever,
and some of those conservatives who think there should be no
welfare at all, that they're both wrong.
He's a Democrat who will move people off the welfare rolls
and onto the job rolls.
Bill Clinton is a Democrat who has the courage to lead a
real war on crime here at home.
And around the world he will be the kind of
commander-in-chief this old Marine sergeant would be proud to
follow. That either one of us was able, one growing up in an
Appalachian valley and the other in rural Arkansas, to
eventually become governors of our states is a tribute to the
American dream and yes, the Democratic Party that makes it a
reality.
When I was growing up back in the mountains, whenever I
felt like one of life's losers, my mother used to point to the
one and only paved road in our valley - a narrow little strip
that disappeared winding its way through a distant gap - and
she'd say, ''You know what's so great about this place? You can
get anywhere in the world from here.''
Thanks to her and to God, the United States Marine Corps
and the Democratic Party, I did go somewhere.
But I've never really left that mountain valley.
Shirley and I, our children and their children still live
in the Appalachian town of Young Harris, Ga. And tonight, one
of my sons is sitting in front of the television set in the
living room of that same rock house my mother and her neighbors
built so many years ago.
Tonight, let our message be heard in every living room in
every home in America.
Wherever families and friends are gathered, let them know
this. We have a leader and a party and a platform that says to
the everyday working people of this country:
We will fight your fight.
We will ease your burden.
We will carry your cause.
We will hear all the voices of America, from the silky
harmonies of the Gospel choirs to the rough-edged rhythms of a
hot country band, from the razor's edge rap of the inner city
to the soaring beauty of the finest soprano.
We hear your voice, America.
We hear your voice.
We will answer your call.
We will keep the faith.
And we will restore your hope.
Thank you. God bless you. And God bless America.


51 posted on 09/06/2004 2:08:44 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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CARVILE 24-7!! Bush would win 80-20!! MORE CARVILE PLEASE!! More Beckel..More Lanny...More Begala...More MOORE!! The America people areSICK of these haters! It only helps W!!


53 posted on 09/06/2004 8:35:00 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Don't you love it, the mean old Republicans put a gun to Zell's head and made him give that speech.
No debate on the substance just demean and excoriate the opposition even if he is a senior Democrat who saw the light.
This all they have in their play book, the one they have been using since 1992, smear your opponent but never answer the charges or debate the issues.
You would think after 10 years of losing elections they would see this doesn't work but they just don't get it and won't.
Kerry is indeed a thin skinned, delusional, effete snob who thinks he is Jack Kennedy and should be President based only on his 4 months as a Swift Boat Captain.
He will never talk about his senate record because he hasn't one to speak of.
Lord if these are the new qualifications for being President then I expect the Captain of a Garbage Scow to next run, he already knows about garbage that should immediately qualify him to be around politicians.
54 posted on 09/06/2004 8:43:20 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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55 posted on 09/06/2004 8:44:19 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Yes, there's still time to buy my book.)
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