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Michael Savage Going Ballistic On Chechen Islamic Terrorists
Michael Savage Radio Show | September 3, 2004 | Travis McGee

Posted on 09/03/2004 3:20:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee

Savage is going ballistic on Islamofascist terrorists, tune him in if you can. He took a call from a supporter of Chechnya's actions, and said perhaps Putin could say he was justified in dropping a nuke on Mecca, if it is indeed a world war. If the islamofascists can defend this type of terrorism as "defensive" (in the mind of the caller) then Putin could say the same thing about using nukes to finish it once and for all.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cair; cairsilentonchechnya; chechnya; islam; muslim; nocaircondemnation; nuclear; ossetia; russia; savage; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terrorism; whereiscair
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To: RepublicanHippy

Because of the intense heat in the gym, crowded with people. AND not being allowed to go to the bathroom to use the toliet for 54 hours


181 posted on 09/04/2004 1:06:37 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Syncro
So you would fight with every resource at you command if armed factions of Muslim Terrorists were exterminated?

This is a bit confusing, are you asking if I would resist the destruction of terrorists? Or if I would resist an idiotic attempt to "quarantine" 1/6th of the human race and deport citizens who have done nothing but exercise their religious freedom?

If out society comes to the realization that we have to fight terrorizm how ever possible, you would fight against it?

I will not stoop to butchery. I would not even consider any of the other aforementioned options unless things got unbearably bad. Resorting to martial law or tearing up the Constitution is not something that anyone should even consider under normal circumstances, and even post-9/11 it's not in the cards.

You don't think 911 demanded action?

I think that the options we have exercised have been quite adequate so-far. Afghanistan and Iraq were necessary, but pressing the war against Al-Quaeda is now a mostly political job with limited military action to back it up. Nuking Mecca would be an idiotic provocation.

Where are you, I hope not America.

Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. Where we don't drop nukes at the drop of a hat.

What you suggest is impossible short of mass holocaust

Straw man argument and not true at all.

Yes, and "quarantine" of over a billion people and the deportation of millions is a sensible plan that's well within the power of the US to enact and enforce. /sarcasm

Are you with us or against us?

Shove your rhetorical question, and all the BS it implies.

182 posted on 09/04/2004 2:07:09 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: TXnMA; TexKat; anonymoussierra; Long Cut; Travis McGee
TexKat's find, reposted by TXnMA:

Take care, Russian people!

183 posted on 09/04/2004 2:07:58 AM PDT by risk
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To: Tijeras_Slim
10 are Arabs I figured Reuters would atleast call them "guest workers".

"Undocumented liberators"?

184 posted on 09/04/2004 2:12:24 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Travis McGee
He's talking about the jihadists as the heirs to Hitler and Nazis

it's actually the other way around
185 posted on 09/04/2004 2:17:29 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Travis McGee
Craterizing mecca would mean the end of islam. "Poof!" Muslims cry out "Allahu Akbar" as the central tenent of their faith: Our God is greater (than your God). They believe that allah would not permit infidels to harm their black rock moon-god idol. They believe that allah would steer ICBMs away from mecca, or blow them up in space. It is inconceivable to muslims that infidels could cause the craterizing of mecca. If mecca and the ka'aba rock were craterized, it would prove to them that allah was NOT greater. That allah was a fake, and they have been deceived. Islam as a religion would disappear within a decade, as muslims commited suicide, went on futile lemming-like banzai charges, converted, or turned into atheists.

I agree with you. There's no point in chopping off the heads of the Hydra, we must strike at the heart if we really want to defeat this evil
186 posted on 09/04/2004 2:22:12 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Zeroisanumber; Travis McGee
If Mecca were nuked, it would be rebuilt and a new Ka'ba consecrated on the spot where the old one stood. Nuking Mecca would accomplish nothing besides creating all the necessary ingredients for a true world war which would only end with the destruction of Russia.

Are you just ignorant or worse? The Ka'aba can't be rebuilt -- it holds the "holy" meteor, the black stone that supposedly fell from heaven. It's been worshipped for millenia by moon god cults. You destroy that and what travis said works out. Read up a bit aboutIslam before spouting nonsense -- the Koran requires that every Muslime make a trip to Makkah once in a lifetime, that every Muslime shoudl hold the peninsular Arabs as the epitome of life (so, even though Pakis, Iraiqs, Egyptians, Syrians etc are not arab, they want to believe they are). It is the centre, the be-all and end-all of the cult. It is the hell-mouth, the one definition. The analogy of the Vatican is incorrect. Christianity andIslam do NOT worship the same God, do NOT have commonality.
187 posted on 09/04/2004 2:26:24 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Zeroisanumber

more like mass conversion. The ancestors of many of the slamiies were given a simple choice -- convert or die. We give their descendents the same choice but in reverse. you can only fight fire with fire.


188 posted on 09/04/2004 2:27:47 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Pakistan and Iran are both Muslim countries with nukes

Iran doesn't have them YET. THe pakis do and we need to eliminate that threat. Leave the Pakis to the tender mercies of the Indians when the nukes are eliminated. Iran will convert.
189 posted on 09/04/2004 2:29:03 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Travis McGee; Zeroisanumber; Centurion2000
Not possible. Islemmings believe that the kaaba rock has been there forever, put their by allah himself. It is a chunk of allah on earth. Infidels couldn't touch it, impossible! They believe this. Craterize mecca, the entire insane murder cult goes "Poof!"

Exactly, what garbage is zero speaking?
190 posted on 09/04/2004 2:30:19 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Travis McGee
143 shows an utter lack of understanding of islam. Comparing the kaaba rock to St Peters? There is no comparison. The essense of Christianity is an idea, symbolized by any tiny wooden cross. Catholics do not prostrate themselves five times a day to St. Peter's Basilica (or anything else) the way muslims lay down and pray TO mecca. Catholics to not make a "haj" to the Vatican, it's just the place the Pope hangs his miter. No comparison, no understanding. They cannot "rebuild" the kaaba rock, put their by allah himself, a piece of allah himself! The concept of mere men "rebuilding" the god-head of the kaaba rock would be blasphemy! St. Peter's is a pretty building, built by men. Very historical, even blessed, to Catholics. But we don't pray to it! We don't believe God almighty put it there!

well put again.
191 posted on 09/04/2004 2:32:35 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: 68 grunt

What does your tag line mean???


192 posted on 09/04/2004 2:33:09 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Syncro
SomeALL were muzlims.
193 posted on 09/04/2004 2:34:18 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cronos

Dude, that was Travis.


194 posted on 09/04/2004 2:39:27 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber

I know it was travis -- I was agreeing with hima nd disagreeing with you -- you can't compare Mecca to the Vatican. And for Muslimes, Mecca is the be-all and end-all of their cult


195 posted on 09/04/2004 2:41:11 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cronos
I know it was travis -- I was agreeing with hima nd disagreeing with you -- you can't compare Mecca to the Vatican. And for Muslimes, Mecca is the be-all and end-all of their cult.

Muslims adhere to the Five Pillars, and Mecca is indeed their holiest city. But like Catholicism, the religion would not die if Mecca were destroyed. Muslims would simply adjust to the new reality. They aren't going to give up believing in Allah simply because Mecca is destroyed. The Five Pillars would still apply, an short of destroying every reference to Islam in the world you couldn't destroy that.

196 posted on 09/04/2004 2:49:58 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
Muslims adhere to the Five Pillars, and Mecca is indeed their holiest city.

It is their holiest city, it is the city they bow down to 5 times a day, it is the place where Mad Mo was born. It is the place where the supposed rock from heaven rests. It is the place that represetns the "triumph" ofIslam. It is the place where a church cannot be built, where a christian cannot visit. It is the most mentioned place in the Koran. It is the centre, the heart, the "soul" of the evil cult. Destroy it and the cult has no place to direct its worhip. Destroy it and the cutl loses it's belief in its supposed superiority. Destroy the cult centre and you destroy the cult.
197 posted on 09/04/2004 2:53:21 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Zeroisanumber
They aren't going to give up believing in Allah simply because Mecca is destroyed. The Five Pillars would still apply, an short of destroying every reference to Islam in the world you couldn't destroy that.

The entire cult is builg on a supposed complex thatAllah is some kind of warrior god. Destroy that concept, destroy the ability of the cultists to prevent conversions out on pain of death and you've destroyed the cult
198 posted on 09/04/2004 2:54:54 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cincincinati Spiritus
It seems a bit strange that there were Arabs and other non-Chechens in this attack. Perhaps Al Quida has moved its base of operations to Chechnya.

It would make sense. Look at the pattern of prior al-Queda bases: Sudan, Afghanistan, the tribal areas of Pakistan. Places where there are Muslims without an effective central government to hassle al-Queda, where they can BECOME the effective government. That's al-Queda's long-term objective: to BECOME the government of Islam

199 posted on 09/04/2004 2:56:04 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
But like Catholicism, the religion would not die if Mecca were destroyed.

I will repeat Travis' post in #164:

Comparing the kaaba rock to St Peters? There is no comparison.
  1. The essense of Christianity is an idea, symbolized by any tiny wooden cross.
  2. Catholics do not prostrate themselves five times a day to St. Peter's Basilica (or anything else) the way muslims lay down and pray TO mecca.
  3. Catholics to not make a "haj" to the Vatican, it's just the place the Pope hangs his miter.
  4. They cannot "rebuild" the kaaba rock, put their by allah himself, a piece of allah himself!
  5. The concept of mere men "rebuilding" the god-head of the kaaba rock would be blasphemy!
  6. St. Peter's is a pretty building, built by men. Very historical, even blessed, to Catholics. But we don't pray to it! We don't believe God almighty put it there!

200 posted on 09/04/2004 2:57:03 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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