Stay safe !
Posted on 09/03/2004 9:03:10 AM PDT by Doomonyou
"It's like having the Wehrmacht knock on your door."
Actually, it's like having the U.S. government knock on your door.
JBT's R Us.
F%$&!NG NAZI's
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I particularly noted he didn't say anything about it being illegal. I told him there was a lot of stuff in my car but nothing illegal. He let it go at that.
I had a couple of guns which I was carrying legally but just didn't want to fool with discussing it etc.
Big deal. I'd bet there are some neighborhoods in Cal that have more than the entire state of Montana.
This one seems to be a particularly bad one in that it appears two totally innocent people were randomly murdered. People who live in the vicinity do need to be questioned. Just living nearby in a rural area is enough to cast a tiny bit of suspicion on you.
Now if they decided to check every gun in the state or even the region, I would be just as disturbed as you but that is not what they are doing, at least yet.
Cops do sometimes have to make innocent people undergo suspicion. There is just no way of avoiding it unless you simply don't really try and solve the crime.
LOL! What kind of response is this? I think they picked the wrong guy to push around even though he seems to be cooperating.
Clearly there evidence and investigation in this case are weak. That's why two people were contacted instead of one.
That being said, I feel for the LEOs. In cases such as this, if the perp only walked up and shot, and walked away, no robbery involved and didn't touch the victims, could mean that they have very little to go on. It would be a senseless homicide, and those can be the most difficult to crack.
In a nearby suburb, a couple of black guys (I'm white) held up a bank. One of them used a handgun similar to mine. In addition, a cop was shot and injured while responding.
The cops scoured sales records at local gun dealers, found that I had purchased a similar gun years before, and came knocking on my door.
I wasn't home, but my father was. The cop wanted to take my handgun in for testing, and bless his freedom-loving heart, my father refused to turn it over.
Two things I've learned since. If you find yourself in a similar situation, demand to speak to the cop's supervisor, who may not be aware of the fishing expedition. Also, if you do turn anything over to the cops (I might be tempted to demand a search warrent), by all means demand a receipt.
Stay safe !
Evidently with more to follow.
That being said, I feel for the LEOs. In cases such as this, if the perp only walked up and shot, and walked away, no robbery involved and didn't touch the victims, could mean that they have very little to go on.
Apparently, that is exactly what happened.
It would be a senseless homicide, and those can be the most difficult to crack.
Exactly, I think LEO's can knock on as many doors in the area as possible looking for leads and asking if anyone saw anything, but asking people for there guns with no probable cause crosses the line.
The FBI will tell you that the method is about 50/50 at best, and if pressed they will admit that the probablities of a direct match are less than 20%, unless the gun has been recovered from the crime scene. The police have one job: to collect evidence and arrest someone. In that, I insist that they "go by the book". Any information that one volunteers can and will be used against that person in a court of law. And since BT is so inaccurate, who wants to take the chance that some hung-over lab tech might be sloppy and conclude that it was your gun that was used. Make them get the warrant. Call your attorney and have him stand by during the search. If they have a warrant, I will open the safe. But all they are going to get from me is "name, rank and serial number". After that, they can talk to my lawyer.
Albeit I despise having to rent my RKBA it's the best we have going for right now. As a former deputy I am polite and treat LEO's like I want to be treated. My wallet is placed on the dash for easy access to my license and insurance, All the car windows are rolled down and the dome lights are on inside the car before the LEO can get out of his car. My hands are at the two and 10 position on the wheel. And a small digital recorder under my dash is turned "on" and my family, friends and lawyer know it's there........my insurance against a Crazy Cop per se...short of a slug to the noggin I suppose !
I strive to never give a LEO reason to stop me, or fear me.......always do the speed limit, use the cruise control, wear my seat belt and such etc etc.....
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>>And a small digital recorder under my dash is turned "on" and my family, friends and lawyer know it's there<<
I like that idea!
I have been stopped maybe twenty times and only got a couple of tickets. I always suspected it had something to do with attitude.
I don't go quite as far as you tho. I do lower the drivers window and also do the 10-2 thing with my hands on the steering wheel. I also immediately put on my turn signal and pull over as soon as practical as soon as I see the lights.
I don't know if Georgia Troopers would have had knowledge of my concealed carry or not. As a matter of fact I was carrying legally for three different reasons. I had a permit, I don't think you even needed a permit for having it in the car, and a third reason which is personal.
Stay safe !
Something strikes me here...
We know that "ballistic signatures" are unreliable at best and that they have NEVER convicted a criminal on "ballistic signature."
Further, the article repeatedly refers to "type of gun used." Seems to me the only thing the police could have is the SIZE OF BULLET. Does my H&K 9mm spent round look different from a Beretta 9mm spent round? I don't think so.
What is "snowflaking"
Planting evidence (by LEO's), usually drugs,"snow" would be cocaine.
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