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A call for civility on Free Republic
Vanity | 08/31/04 | ChicagoHebrew

Posted on 08/30/2004 10:05:23 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew

I enjoy this forum, but lately I've noticed a troubling tendency for posters here to descend into horrible and immature name-calling. Such name-calling, and extremism without reason does nothing but harm our cause. It turns off casual lurkers and readers of this forum. It provides fodder for this forum to be demonized and non-respected elsewhere. Below I provide a few examples. I call on Freepers to stop using such terms voluntarily. If that doesn't work, I call on the moderators to warn, if not censor, posters who use such terms. I realize that Democratic Underground uses even more ridiculous terms sometimes. However, your opponents' choice to frolack in waste does not provide an excuse to do likewise. Rather, it provides an opportunity to rise above, and show one's intellectual and moral superiority. Without more, I present a few examples of the type of garbage I'm talking about. I call on fellow posters to add their own.

1) "Hitlery" -- I dislike Hillary Clinton's politics, and what I know of her personality. However, nothing she has said or done (including her love-fest with Suha Arafat) justifies comparing her to one of the worst monsters in all history. Doing so not only demeans the Holocaust, and all the war dead of WWII, it makes a mockery of this forum to allow it to be posted.

2) "Demorat" -- This is just stupid. Calling your opponent a rodent does nothing to promote conservatism or libertarianism. It does everything to make posters and this forum look like intellectual infants, prone to tantrums and incapable of rational debate. We disagree with Democrats. We should not dehumanize them, or think them so below us that we need not engage them in debate and triumph.

3) "McInsane" & etc. -- John McCain is a conservative, loyal Republican. Indeed, in some areas -- such as controlling spending -- he's far more conservative then Bush. However, he is also a mavarick who doesn't tow the party line -- and, in my opinion, sometimes perhaps puts his principles below his desire to win applauds from the media. That being said, his ACU rating is strong, and he has put legitimate personal disagreements with Bush behind him to support what's best for his party -- and, more importantly -- his country. Feel free to critique McCain. Feel free to disagree with him when he criticizes fellow Republicans or takes an odd liberal stand. However, do not resort to petty name-calling -- especially not name calling that implies he lacks mental faculties, and/or is evil. It's just not right.

So I have written. I hope that a silent majority of Freepers agree with me here.


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To: submarinerswife
I personally prefer...The Red Queen...works on so many levels.

Red

281 posted on 08/31/2004 12:03:34 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I love the 1st Amendment...I can call Clinton an idiot.)
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To: nopardons

I'm actually not a Medved fan but...pat explained how Islamic Extremists DO NOT pose a threat to America. And of course the Patsies went into full froth defending their worm. And that was only one of pat's great pearls of wisdom; he spent an hour making a laughing stock of himself.


282 posted on 08/31/2004 12:04:36 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Travis McGee

Husband was thrilled that
John-Wayne McCain showed up
to speak tonight.


283 posted on 08/31/2004 12:06:20 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: CWOJackson

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg! Usual Pat...blinkered and deaf;not to mention foaming at the mouth. :-(


284 posted on 08/31/2004 12:06:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Filed for future consideration.


285 posted on 08/31/2004 12:11:07 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL-LOL-LOL
I am stealing that.


286 posted on 08/31/2004 12:15:36 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
PRICELESS!
287 posted on 08/31/2004 12:16:45 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; BigSkyFreeper

I have to get out of here.
It is past Cinderella time.

Y'all have fun, but behave yourselves. :)

This is, after all, supposed to be a CIVIL thread.




288 posted on 08/31/2004 12:19:32 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

If you want to see some real lack of civility try dumpster diving over at DU. Sometimes a contrast will show how civil FR really is in comparison.


289 posted on 08/31/2004 12:20:00 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: ChicagoHebrew

So, I guess all our creative names for the distinguished cinema fifth columnist; Mike Al-Moor, Lumpy Riefenstahl, the Ham-Ass Terrorist, are out as well?


290 posted on 08/31/2004 12:20:13 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Anti-war Movement: Roadkill on the Highway to Freedom)
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To: Smokin' Joe
real blue-lightning-bolt uncensored biker rant...

Funny you should mention that (See #129) I kinda lost it. But I think I found the fence line!! <\:-)~~

291 posted on 08/31/2004 12:26:07 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf; ChicagoHebrew
I prefer Hilliary.

I ALWAYS spell her name like that. (And the FR spell checker knows it is right too!)

Hilliary

And I don't call McCain McInSane.

A picture is worth 623.597 words...


292 posted on 08/31/2004 12:34:40 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: ChicagoHebrew

I have no problem with people poking fun at Senators Kerry, Clinton, Michael Moore, the ANSWER brigade, Sex Workers For Kerry, et al. Those people and groups are part of the world of politics, and as such are fair game for ridicule on the basis of their words and deeds.

On the other hand, the act of making fun of individual people outside of the direct political line of fire (especially women) on the basis of their physical attributes or other factors over which they have no control is uncivil, rude, and not in keeping with the knightly spirit of conservatism. For example, Mrs. Edwards' weight has precisely nothing to do with the issues facing our country, and the Kerry daughters inherited those noses — they didn't choose them. I understand that it's a free country and feelings can run high, but I fail to see how coarse behavior on our part advances the cause. The DUmmies often ridicule the President's long upper lip, which sometimes makes him look like he's smirking — does their riducule make their ideas look more attractive, or are they actually driving people away with such adolescent antics? Are they the example we want to follow?

One of the many things that originally attracted me to FR was the atmosphere of civility that pervades this site. During the Clinton years, for example, those posters who occasionally made fun of Chelsea Clinton's appearance, dress, etc. were regularly admonished by other posters on the basis of honor. As long as she was a minor, or was simply supporting her folks out of family loyalty, she was off limits to the sort of roundhouse insults that her parents (rightfully) received. It wasn't until Chelsea Clinton was an adult and placed herself in the public eye that she became fair game. The restraint shown by Freepers regarding the then-President's daughter had nothing to do with political correctness or new-age "tolerance" or "diversity" or any of that crap; instead, it was motivated my the ancient and very conservative idea that Christian soldiers do not make war upon innocent noncombatants. This air of chivalry did much to convince me of the soundness and consistency of the worldview presented on this forum, and led in part to my decision to join it some six years ago.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy lambasting Mecca al-Moor and the rest of the scurvy crew as much as the next guy. I'm not saying we have to be prima donnas or oversensitive Casper Milquetoasts here. All I'm saying is let's keep our eye on the real battle, which is the battle of ideas. Legitimate criticism of our opponents' ideas, beliefs (or lack thereof) or policy proposals is one thing; schoolyard heckling of individuals or their family members solely upon the basis of their nose size or the width of their ass or whatever is stupid and counterproductive, not to mention uncouth. The more stupid, uncivil, and uncouth we are, the more like the DUmmies, MoveOnners, and the naked idiots running riot in the streets of New York right now we become. I personally don't see how that's going to help us get rid of abortion or close the borders.

Sermon over. My two cents, and worth what it cost you to read it.


293 posted on 08/31/2004 12:35:57 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: CWOJackson; nopardons

PJB didn't disappoint me one bit as being a moronic fool on Bill O's show on Monday night. He completely refuted every point in his book. I laughed hysterically after the interview was over.


294 posted on 08/31/2004 12:37:37 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

You think this is bad? You ought to check out the rligion forum.


295 posted on 08/31/2004 12:39:33 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: BigSkyFreeper

O' Reilly must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Wasn't he able to find a conservative to talk to?


296 posted on 08/31/2004 12:40:35 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: onyx
This is, after all, supposed to be a CIVIL thread.

Don't you mean a more 'sensitive' thread?

297 posted on 08/31/2004 12:41:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: onyx
Oooooooooooooooo....don't forget yor glass slipper,my friend. :-)

Pleasant dreams.

298 posted on 08/31/2004 12:43:35 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: dfwgator

LOL!
Yeah "sensitive" thread.
Exactly right.
That's the number.


299 posted on 08/31/2004 12:44:23 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaw........keep right on using them;the rest of us shall. :-)


300 posted on 08/31/2004 12:44:28 AM PDT by nopardons
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