Posted on 08/29/2004 2:04:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
It's time to turn up the heat on Kerry and his anti war protests.
Him and his vile suppoters, then and now, need to be called on what they really stand for.
The media still won't cover this aspect.
We need to tell his story here, and everywhere.
I'm sick of the media ONLY talking about the Swift Boat Vets.
Let's see how they cover the mockery in NYC today about our fallen in this war.
The mock coffins were out of line!
Now that they crossed the line it's time to take off the gloves, once and for all.
Is it true that the FBI is looking into the possibility that some of Kerry's awards were typed on his own typewriter, not the kind of typewriters used by Navy admin departments?
I've "heard" he had his own typewriter.
That's all I "know"
Yep.
What a guy.
A Zippo lighter.
I hate him.
From the little I've seen lately on MSM, you're probably right, it won't be so much on mainstream media. But I don't have one ounce of doubt the Swift Boat Veterans won't keep up their issues!!
The medal issue was just a softball lob. Kerry's Anti-War crap when he returned is the real issue.
He tried to SHAME them. And he did a pretty good job of it. He couldn't be proud of his own record; he didn't have a very good one. When I hear MSM (mainstream media), like ABC, CBS, NBC) calling him a hero; I just realize they know less that I and many more at FR know. Folks here have researched this issue to no end. And yet the MSM says nothing, because they have not done their homework to investigate.
is that a real picture, or photoshopped? I will gladly copy and spread it around if it is real....
and did he actually claim that he was fighting for one year?
Well Brit is true to form and his fox special, in large part, has been devoted to the Swift Boat Vets. Hurry and turn on foxnews.
Hey null and void -- LOL, just bear with me a minute, ok? I'm a laughting myself silly. Coughing and snorting, lol.
Picturing VN veterans I personally know who know what a PowerPoint presentation might be, is pretty funny!
They don't do computers, the ones I know.
Post your picture though, will ya? Thanks. You can cut/copy from the presentation; post to a web host site and then post, isn't that right? Or is that wrong. Not sure, but it should work.
Today's NYC disgusting protesters are John Kerry's legacy: HATE AMERICA!
Bravo Zulu, Tonk!
Hi, Tonk -
I need a link to Kerry's Senate testimony when he returned from Vietnam. Do you have a link?
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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets
http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320
...still..!!!!
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
(Photos then)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(Photos now)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/Ronnie3.jpg
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Thank you so much. I have to point out a few things to a leftist.
Kerry's an "internationalist," according to his statement to the interviewer of the Harvard "Crimson" back in February 1970 when he was first running for office.
He also didn't believe there would be mass murders in Vietnam if we removed troops, and believed that the United Nations should control our foreign military operations, along with other beliefs (such as getting rid of the CIA) which have stayed with him through his Senate career (witness voting record).
These are the words that should be used against him in 2004, because he has shown no propensity for change.
Reprinted here are some excerpts:
Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer
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Old Crimson Interview Reveals A More Radical John Kerry
"Hundreds of opponents to the Vietnam War will meet this coming Saturday in a Third District Citizens Caucus to choose a Democrat strong enough in the September primary to oust Philip J. Philbin (D-Mass.) from the Congressional seat he has held for 26 years. Philbin, whose District stretches from Fitchburg to Newton, is the second-ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee and many people consider the 71-year-old Congressman a hawk on Vietnam and an all-around conservative. Any resident of the Third District, including college students under 21, will be eligible to vote at the open caucus, which will be held at Concord Carlisle Regional High School.
. . . .
"The leading contenders for the caucus's nomination are Father Robert F. Drinan, dean of the Boston College Law School; Harrison Chandler Stevens, who ran as an Independent against Philbin in 1968 and enjoyed the support of many college volunteers; and John F. Kerry, who favors immediate withdrawal, and was the first Vietnam veteran to run for Congress with a dovish platform on the War.
. . .. .
"Kerry has the most explicit stand against the Vietnam War and although his youth is a plus, the fact that he is a political unknown does not help him. Now 26, he was honorably discharged from the Navy last month but has been laying the groundwork for the race ever since November. Occasionally, Kerry makes obvious his recent return to civilian life and the Third Congressional District. When he came into the CRIMSON building last Friday, I introduced myself. . . .
"At Yale, Kerry was chairman of the Political Union and later, as Commencement speaker, urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations. And this was way back in 1966.
"When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy. The Navy assigned him to the USS Gridley which between December 1966 and July 1968 saw four months of action off the Vietnam coast. In August through November, 1968, Kerry was trained to be the skipper of a patrol boat for Vietnamese rivers. For the next five months, until April of 1969, Kerry was the commanding Lieutenant of a patrol boat in the Mekong Delta. He was wounded slightly on three different occasions and received a Silver Star for bravery. His patrol boat took part in Operation Sealords, mostly scouting out Viet Cong villages and transporting South Vietnamese marines to various destinations up and down narrow rivers covered with heavy foliage on either side. One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies, and better educational facilities.
. . . .
"Immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, Kerry said, would take about seven months due to complex logistics problems. During that interval he would allow only "self-defense return of fire." "Logistic suport is now what Nixon is talking about leaving there and I don't want to see that. I don't think we should leave support troops there and I don't think we should give Vietnam any more than the foreign aid given any other one country." He does not feel there would be a massive slaughter of American, sympathizers once the United States pulled out.
"In America, "everybody who's against the war is suddenly considered anti-American," Kerry said. "But I don't think they can turn to me and say I don't know what's going on or I'm a draft dodger." Referring to the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by L. Mendel Rivers (D-S.C.), Kerry said, "I want to go down to Washington and confront Medel Rivers, who never fought in a war.
. . . .
"He supports a volunteer Army, "if and only if we can create the controls for it. You're going to have to prepare for the possibility of a national emergency, however." Kerry said that the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
"On other issues, Kerry wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care."
. . . .
"Kerry's style can turn people off at first because he gives the initial impression of being too good to be true, of being just a little bit insincere. His preppiness might make you think he's a blueblood WASP, but Kerry is really a Roman Catholic. However, an afternoon on the campaign trail with Kerry leaves you with quite a different impression."
Thanks for the ping!
Here's the real reason they're high-fiving: After 2 weeks of Kerry fuming and begging Bush to "get back to the issues" they are going to give him exactly what he asked for: A solid week of Republicans talking about every issue in the campaign but Vietnam, and all of it viewed through the "Bush leads, Kerry flops" paradigm. He should have been careful what he wished for.
And what happens right after the convention? Stolen Honor starts making headlines. Heh-heh!
Among Democrats, high and low, there is considerable grumbling about how and why all this was, in the words of one Kerry consultant, “allowed to get this far”.
I'll answer that: Because you folks hate Bush so much and are so bereft of real core patriotism that you let a traitor become your nominee. The Vietnam stuff should have been checked, but just knowing the guy was Dukakis' Lt. Gov, that he was Mr. Nuclear Freeze and that he voted to cut intelligence and every weapon system in sight...any one of those should have been a red flag in a war election, but you didn't care. Now we may end up with Benedict Arnold in the White House. Tasty pick, boneheads.
The following are typical of comments from Democrats today: “There’s Bush out there again today (in West Virginia) on the attack. Where are Kerry’s attacks?”
Surely they jest.
Our best hope now is that Kerry does well, very well, in the debates.
And I hope I get to replace Brett Favre at Quarterback this year. Good luck on that.
“Kerry and his staff significantly underestimated the “Swift Boat” negative campaign assault. Then they fumbled the response. It was too slow and not very effective even after it got started.”
Slow, because he's been getting away with it for 35 years and it took him a bit to realize that people outside Massachusetts care if you're a back-stabbing Commie sympathizer. Ineffective because he's lying and the Swifties are telling the truth, with the Congressional record backing them up half the time. He and his team could be executing every tactic perfectly, and it will not work. No "it's all about sex" dodges this time, boys and girls.
“no need to panic, it’s still early”
Yeah it is, baby! Kerry gets to twist in the wind for about 60 more days-- Which is around 2,370 days less than James Galanti spent in the Hanoi Hilton. Suck it up, Hanoi John!
This rumor has swirled around a bit from time to time throughout the year, the chatter being that Mr. Bush would prefer to run with Sen. John McCain – or maybe Rudy Giuliani – and will sooner or later find a way to do it.
McCain? Sure, and Hillary wants to run with Newt Gingrich in '08. As for Giuliani, great guy and the Prez likes him, but not only does Bush like Cheney, not only is Cheney a great VP, but dumping him would be the only way to hand momentum back to Kerry. Oh, and Karl Rove would slit his wrists.
“Even which is to say no bounce… and possibly a slight minus, like minus one.”
If this happens (and it won't) it will be due to having too many RINOs on the platform. But the lack of a Dem convention bounce was about Kerry and Edwards sucking, and I think Cheney and Bush will impress yet again, leading to a bounce of about 4-6 points.
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