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FLASHBACK: Kerry on Communism (no different from democracy, we can't fight it) (1971 testimony)
WInterSoldier/congressional Record ^ | April 22, 1971 | Joh F. Kerry

Posted on 08/29/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion

...we are probably angriest about all that we were told about Vietnam and about the mystical war against communism.

We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy.

...if you read carefully the President's last speech to the people of this country, you can see that he says, and says clearly:

"But the issue, gentlemen,the issue is communism, and the question is whether or not we will leave that country to the Communists or whether or not we will try to give it hope to be a free people."

But the point is they are not a free people now under us. They are not a free people, and we cannot fight communism all over the World, and I think we should have learned that lesson by now.

Senator, I will say this. I think that politically, historically, the one thing that people try to do, that society is structured on as a whole, is an attempt to satisfy their felt needs, and you can satisfy those needs with almost any kind of political structure, giving it one name or the other. In this name it is democratic; in others it is communism; in others it is benevolent dictatorship. As long as those needs are satisfied, that structure will exist.


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A lot of people are familiare with what he said in this speech against the military still fighting in Vietnam, but a lot fewer people know that in this same speech, he basically said that there is no difference between communism and democracy, and that we, the US, can't fight it around the world, i.e. we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it.

If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war.

Now, we need to fight terrorism. Kerry thinks UN approval is more important, than defending ourselves.

How can we trust him now, to defend us and win THIS War on Terror.

1 posted on 08/29/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

In his entire career, Kerry voted against the defense systems, which won the cold war and are winning the war on terror today.

DID YOU GET THE MEMO?
Kerry's Defense Vision Laid Out In 1984 Campaign Memo: Cut, Cut, Cut, Cancel, Cancel, Cancel

http://commrnc.grassroots.com/resources/kerry1984defensememo.pdf


2 posted on 08/29/2004 10:46:46 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion
Communism puts the power to steal property into the hands of government. As socialism takes money from its citizens to conduct the ruling elite's programs (even contrary to popular opinion), it moves from benevolence to abuse. At the point where taxation without representation occurs, we have communism. And Ronald Reagan proved that it could be fought. That he did without Kerry's help, of course. I'd argue it's what Kerry did after he said this that damns him. He proved that he wanted to tax people to the point of taking their money without representation.

Same sex "marriages" would be the same thing, taking money in the form of taxes for practices that most Americans don't condone.

Stem cell research being funded by the federal government would be the same sort of a situation.

Foreign aid to pay for abortion would also be this sort of a problematic use of federal funds.

Kerry has followed the path to taxation without representation every chance he got. His attitude has always been, "If you can't beat the communists, join them."

3 posted on 08/29/2004 10:48:45 AM PDT by risk
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To: FairOpinion
My 'needs' would be satisfied by seeing JF'nK's *ss kicked.
4 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:18 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: FairOpinion
If you strip Skerry down to his shorts you will find they are pink.

Self serving, egotistical, liberal that would lead our beloved country into a nation of retreat.

Abandoning leadership on the world stage, turning the issues that affect our very survival over to the world court of public opinion.

5 posted on 08/29/2004 10:50:47 AM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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To: FairOpinion
" .. satisfy their felt needs .. "

In a nutshell, the entire socialist/dem philosophy.

6 posted on 08/29/2004 10:51:15 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: knarf

Kerry is either ignorant or a communist, or both.

No sane person thinks that there is no difference between communism and democracy for the people who live under that form of government.


7 posted on 08/29/2004 10:53:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: FairOpinion
But the point is they are not a free people now under us. They are not a free people, and we cannot fight communism all over the World, and I think we should have learned that lesson by now.

Thank goodness The Gipper didn't subscribe to Jean Fraude Kerri's philosophy.

9 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:22 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (John Kerry fled while good men bled.)
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To: FairOpinion; All

john f. kerry(not capitolised on purpose) as seen in the April 22nd, 1971 testimony to the Senate foreign Relations Committee, was improperly wearing his uniform.

Disgraceful conduct, especially for an Officer(kerry was still in the inactive Naval Reserve at the time).

john f. kerry was in grossly improper uniform during his Senate testimony, 22 April, 1971.

1.) Improper Hair Length while in uniform.(Way out of regulation hair length while in uniform)

2.) Improper uniform wear.
a. Utility uniforms are meant for work areas only. not for formal(Such as a Senate Hearing) attire.
b. Awards(Ribbons which signify medals and devices) are prohibited from being worn on utility uniforms. (badges in cloth form excepted.)
c. Awards(Ribbons and devices) are worn on Semi-Dress and Full Dress Uniforms only, NOT utility uniforms.
d. Medals are worn on Mess Dress Uniforms only.

22 April, 1971, john f. kerry(an Officer in the Naval Reserve), by the blatant act of his improper uniform wear as well as his treasonous testimony was showing his complete contempt for the United States and United States Military. Further aggravated by the slanderous words he(kerry) uttered about his fellow servicemen, which were used by the enemy in torturing our prisoners in the infamous Hanoi Hilton!!!!

Here's some pertinent kerry history!!!!

Below is excerpted statements to Congress, 22 April, 1971 by Lt. John F. Kerry USNR(Inactive Reserve Status).



"Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Furhter paired down to:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points..."(kerry and his VVAW negotiated in Paris with the then enemy.)

Stated by kerry to Our U.S. Congress which is in the Official Congressional Record, 22 April, 1971.

I'll let ALL of you think your own thoughts about this, however, I cannot for the life of me, picture kerry in any elected office, never mind being Commander in Chief!!!!

Why kerry was not indicted, tried and convicted for Treason and Sedition under the appropriate Articles, We will never know.

The Media SHAMELESSLY hides this TRUTH(In the Congressional Record, dated 22 April, 1971) from the Public!!!! They are equally Treasonous and Seditionous as kerry is!!!!This Blatant Example of the media shows that we no longer have a FREE and TRUTHFUL Press(Straight ALL the Way LEFT of Center)!!!!

kerry had his VVAW which led to the deaths of thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths in Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia after he and his VVAW accomplished their mission in getting U.S. withdrawal in South Viet Nam. kerry and his VVAW forever tarnished the image of U.S. Viet Nam Vets!!!!

The Democratic Party is no longer the Democratic Party!!!! For them to select kerry and his two forunners Clinton and Gore show they have become the party of our enemies!!!!

We cannot ALLOW this to STAND!!!!

Defender2

Some More Interesting historical news about kerry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160580/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165078/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1181426/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1181954/posts

Some of kerry's friends listed below:

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.dsausa.org/

DSA's "Progressive Caucus" Links below:

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp

They are the Enemy Within!!!!

I have at least one or two interesting posts about said such subject matter, below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1165983/posts

And see:

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

More: Communist Party Backs the RATS!!!! below:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171176/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172055/posts


More!!!! Socialists(DSA) backs kerry!!!! Below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179854/posts

More of the Enemy within!!!!

Even More!!!! Red China Backs kerry!!!! See Below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1180437/posts


Avoid the Socialists/Communists backed johns(not capitolised on purpose) like the Plague!!!!

john f. kerry previously committed treason, sedition, aid and comfort to our enemies, admitted by his own testimony, 22 April, 1971!!!!

john f. kerry would commit treason again and again!!!!

Flush the Socialists/Communists/Enemies Loving johns(Prince johns wanting to be King johns) down the john!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh!!!! And Two More:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1192105/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1191742/posts

D2


10 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:42 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
"If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war"

You're right! Kerry spent his Senate career in the late '80s trying to insure that the United States did not win the Cold War. That's what the Reps should be proclaiming this week. Kerry's testimony linked to his Senate voting record. Let him NUANCE that!!!

11 posted on 08/29/2004 10:59:48 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: FairOpinion
As long as those needs are satisfied, that structure will exist.

That thought, put in another perspective, is not original to Kerry (as if anything is):

"..and accordingly all experience hath shown , that man-kind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."................The Declaration of Independence, 4ht. Paragraph.

The Founding Fathers question the wisdom of suffering, unjustly, as long as the; "evils are sufferable". Kerry argues for the opposite conclusion. Kerry would have been a "Red Coat".

12 posted on 08/29/2004 11:00:47 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: FairOpinion

a bump for BUSH and http://www.swiftvets.com/


13 posted on 08/29/2004 11:00:48 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Sorry, ERF, but I spent from 62 til 69 at university in B.C.

My experiences with the 'student' leftist toadies then do not put me in the mood now to forgive their intellectual and moral trespasses.

So JF'nK needs his *ss kicked, along with thousands of his comrades.

Fortunately, the Vets are doing it without my help. ;^)


14 posted on 08/29/2004 11:01:17 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Did you not see my post 2?


15 posted on 08/29/2004 11:01:28 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: TUX
Self serving, egotistical, liberal that would lead our beloved country into a nation of retreat.

Exactly. John Kerry is nothing more than a Jimmy Carter with a New England accent (and a droll tone).

16 posted on 08/29/2004 11:04:05 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: FairOpinion
A lot of people are familiare with what he said in this speech against the military still fighting in Vietnam, but a lot fewer people know that in this same speech, he basically said that there is no difference between communism and democracy, and that we, the US, can't fight it around the world, i.e. we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it.

If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war.

You can bet that Kerry feels that Islamic terrorism is inevitible, and there is no point in fighting it. The fact that communism was defeated and discredited in no way redeems America in Kerry's eyes. His unconscious contempt for all things American leads him to cling to the belief that anything else, French, communist, Islamic, etc, as being inherently more genuine and noble.

17 posted on 08/29/2004 11:07:16 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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Thanks for this FairOpinion. It's the clearest view into Kerry's mind I've seen via his own words. I don't think this guy has ever been on the right side of a national interest issue...at least not our nation's.

LBT

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18 posted on 08/29/2004 11:13:13 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

So how do you feel about Stasi informants? Their youthful acts are forgivable, even if they send good people to the Gulag?


19 posted on 08/29/2004 11:18:19 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: FairOpinion

So, he was just a litte "over the top." Besides, they weren't his words; he overheard other people saying that at a meeting. And we have to stop living in the 70's.

Oh, and did you know Kerry was in Vietnam?


20 posted on 08/29/2004 11:21:20 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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