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A lot of people are familiare with what he said in this speech against the military still fighting in Vietnam, but a lot fewer people know that in this same speech, he basically said that there is no difference between communism and democracy, and that we, the US, can't fight it around the world, i.e. we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it.

If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war.

Now, we need to fight terrorism. Kerry thinks UN approval is more important, than defending ourselves.

How can we trust him now, to defend us and win THIS War on Terror.

1 posted on 08/29/2004 10:42:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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In his entire career, Kerry voted against the defense systems, which won the cold war and are winning the war on terror today.

DID YOU GET THE MEMO?
Kerry's Defense Vision Laid Out In 1984 Campaign Memo: Cut, Cut, Cut, Cancel, Cancel, Cancel

http://commrnc.grassroots.com/resources/kerry1984defensememo.pdf


2 posted on 08/29/2004 10:46:46 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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Communism puts the power to steal property into the hands of government. As socialism takes money from its citizens to conduct the ruling elite's programs (even contrary to popular opinion), it moves from benevolence to abuse. At the point where taxation without representation occurs, we have communism. And Ronald Reagan proved that it could be fought. That he did without Kerry's help, of course. I'd argue it's what Kerry did after he said this that damns him. He proved that he wanted to tax people to the point of taking their money without representation.

Same sex "marriages" would be the same thing, taking money in the form of taxes for practices that most Americans don't condone.

Stem cell research being funded by the federal government would be the same sort of a situation.

Foreign aid to pay for abortion would also be this sort of a problematic use of federal funds.

Kerry has followed the path to taxation without representation every chance he got. His attitude has always been, "If you can't beat the communists, join them."

3 posted on 08/29/2004 10:48:45 AM PDT by risk
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My 'needs' would be satisfied by seeing JF'nK's *ss kicked.
4 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:18 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: FairOpinion
If you strip Skerry down to his shorts you will find they are pink.

Self serving, egotistical, liberal that would lead our beloved country into a nation of retreat.

Abandoning leadership on the world stage, turning the issues that affect our very survival over to the world court of public opinion.

5 posted on 08/29/2004 10:50:47 AM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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" .. satisfy their felt needs .. "

In a nutshell, the entire socialist/dem philosophy.

6 posted on 08/29/2004 10:51:15 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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But the point is they are not a free people now under us. They are not a free people, and we cannot fight communism all over the World, and I think we should have learned that lesson by now.

Thank goodness The Gipper didn't subscribe to Jean Fraude Kerri's philosophy.

9 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:22 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (John Kerry fled while good men bled.)
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john f. kerry(not capitolised on purpose) as seen in the April 22nd, 1971 testimony to the Senate foreign Relations Committee, was improperly wearing his uniform.

Disgraceful conduct, especially for an Officer(kerry was still in the inactive Naval Reserve at the time).

john f. kerry was in grossly improper uniform during his Senate testimony, 22 April, 1971.

1.) Improper Hair Length while in uniform.(Way out of regulation hair length while in uniform)

2.) Improper uniform wear.
a. Utility uniforms are meant for work areas only. not for formal(Such as a Senate Hearing) attire.
b. Awards(Ribbons which signify medals and devices) are prohibited from being worn on utility uniforms. (badges in cloth form excepted.)
c. Awards(Ribbons and devices) are worn on Semi-Dress and Full Dress Uniforms only, NOT utility uniforms.
d. Medals are worn on Mess Dress Uniforms only.

22 April, 1971, john f. kerry(an Officer in the Naval Reserve), by the blatant act of his improper uniform wear as well as his treasonous testimony was showing his complete contempt for the United States and United States Military. Further aggravated by the slanderous words he(kerry) uttered about his fellow servicemen, which were used by the enemy in torturing our prisoners in the infamous Hanoi Hilton!!!!

Here's some pertinent kerry history!!!!

Below is excerpted statements to Congress, 22 April, 1971 by Lt. John F. Kerry USNR(Inactive Reserve Status).



"Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Furhter paired down to:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points..."(kerry and his VVAW negotiated in Paris with the then enemy.)

Stated by kerry to Our U.S. Congress which is in the Official Congressional Record, 22 April, 1971.

I'll let ALL of you think your own thoughts about this, however, I cannot for the life of me, picture kerry in any elected office, never mind being Commander in Chief!!!!

Why kerry was not indicted, tried and convicted for Treason and Sedition under the appropriate Articles, We will never know.

The Media SHAMELESSLY hides this TRUTH(In the Congressional Record, dated 22 April, 1971) from the Public!!!! They are equally Treasonous and Seditionous as kerry is!!!!This Blatant Example of the media shows that we no longer have a FREE and TRUTHFUL Press(Straight ALL the Way LEFT of Center)!!!!

kerry had his VVAW which led to the deaths of thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths in Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia after he and his VVAW accomplished their mission in getting U.S. withdrawal in South Viet Nam. kerry and his VVAW forever tarnished the image of U.S. Viet Nam Vets!!!!

The Democratic Party is no longer the Democratic Party!!!! For them to select kerry and his two forunners Clinton and Gore show they have become the party of our enemies!!!!

We cannot ALLOW this to STAND!!!!

Defender2

Some More Interesting historical news about kerry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1091943/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160580/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165078/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1181426/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1181954/posts

Some of kerry's friends listed below:

http://www.cpusa.org/

http://www.dsausa.org/

DSA's "Progressive Caucus" Links below:

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp

They are the Enemy Within!!!!

I have at least one or two interesting posts about said such subject matter, below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1165983/posts

And see:

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

More: Communist Party Backs the RATS!!!! below:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1171176/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172055/posts


More!!!! Socialists(DSA) backs kerry!!!! Below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179854/posts

More of the Enemy within!!!!

Even More!!!! Red China Backs kerry!!!! See Below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1180437/posts


Avoid the Socialists/Communists backed johns(not capitolised on purpose) like the Plague!!!!

john f. kerry previously committed treason, sedition, aid and comfort to our enemies, admitted by his own testimony, 22 April, 1971!!!!

john f. kerry would commit treason again and again!!!!

Flush the Socialists/Communists/Enemies Loving johns(Prince johns wanting to be King johns) down the john!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh!!!! And Two More:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1192105/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1191742/posts

D2


10 posted on 08/29/2004 10:55:42 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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"If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war"

You're right! Kerry spent his Senate career in the late '80s trying to insure that the United States did not win the Cold War. That's what the Reps should be proclaiming this week. Kerry's testimony linked to his Senate voting record. Let him NUANCE that!!!

11 posted on 08/29/2004 10:59:48 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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As long as those needs are satisfied, that structure will exist.

That thought, put in another perspective, is not original to Kerry (as if anything is):

"..and accordingly all experience hath shown , that man-kind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."................The Declaration of Independence, 4ht. Paragraph.

The Founding Fathers question the wisdom of suffering, unjustly, as long as the; "evils are sufferable". Kerry argues for the opposite conclusion. Kerry would have been a "Red Coat".

12 posted on 08/29/2004 11:00:47 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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a bump for BUSH and http://www.swiftvets.com/


13 posted on 08/29/2004 11:00:48 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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A lot of people are familiare with what he said in this speech against the military still fighting in Vietnam, but a lot fewer people know that in this same speech, he basically said that there is no difference between communism and democracy, and that we, the US, can't fight it around the world, i.e. we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it.

If it had been up to Kerry we would NOT have won the cold war.

You can bet that Kerry feels that Islamic terrorism is inevitible, and there is no point in fighting it. The fact that communism was defeated and discredited in no way redeems America in Kerry's eyes. His unconscious contempt for all things American leads him to cling to the belief that anything else, French, communist, Islamic, etc, as being inherently more genuine and noble.

17 posted on 08/29/2004 11:07:16 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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Thanks for this FairOpinion. It's the clearest view into Kerry's mind I've seen via his own words. I don't think this guy has ever been on the right side of a national interest issue...at least not our nation's.

LBT

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18 posted on 08/29/2004 11:13:13 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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So, he was just a litte "over the top." Besides, they weren't his words; he overheard other people saying that at a meeting. And we have to stop living in the 70's.

Oh, and did you know Kerry was in Vietnam?


20 posted on 08/29/2004 11:21:20 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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BTTT


27 posted on 08/29/2004 12:05:41 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

28 posted on 08/29/2004 12:09:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: El Sordo


29 posted on 08/29/2004 12:12:20 PM PDT by El Sordo
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Speaking of JFK's Purple Hearts, here is a picture of one of them.


33 posted on 08/29/2004 12:38:18 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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bttt


34 posted on 08/29/2004 12:42:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Who was Madame Binh's messenger boy?)
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I think a video of him actually saying this belongs in a commercial. Incredible stupidity.


41 posted on 08/29/2004 1:30:39 PM PDT by plain talk
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Kerry's an "internationalist," according to his statement to the interviewer of the Harvard "Crimson" back in February 1970 when he was first running for office.

He also didn't believe there would be mass murders in Vietnam if we removed troops, and believed that the United Nations should control our foreign military operations, along with other beliefs (such as getting rid of the CIA) which have stayed with him through his Senate career (witness voting record).

These are the words that should be used against him in 2004, because he has shown no propensity for change.

Reprinted here are some excerpts:

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress

By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer

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Old Crimson Interview Reveals A More Radical John Kerry

"Hundreds of opponents to the Vietnam War will meet this coming Saturday in a Third District Citizens Caucus to choose a Democrat strong enough in the September primary to oust Philip J. Philbin (D-Mass.) from the Congressional seat he has held for 26 years. Philbin, whose District stretches from Fitchburg to Newton, is the second-ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee and many people consider the 71-year-old Congressman a hawk on Vietnam and an all-around conservative. Any resident of the Third District, including college students under 21, will be eligible to vote at the open caucus, which will be held at Concord Carlisle Regional High School.

. . . .
"The leading contenders for the caucus's nomination are Father Robert F. Drinan, dean of the Boston College Law School; Harrison Chandler Stevens, who ran as an Independent against Philbin in 1968 and enjoyed the support of many college volunteers; and John F. Kerry, who favors immediate withdrawal, and was the first Vietnam veteran to run for Congress with a dovish platform on the War.
. . .. .

"Kerry has the most explicit stand against the Vietnam War and although his youth is a plus, the fact that he is a political unknown does not help him. Now 26, he was honorably discharged from the Navy last month but has been laying the groundwork for the race ever since November. Occasionally, Kerry makes obvious his recent return to civilian life and the Third Congressional District. When he came into the CRIMSON building last Friday, I introduced myself. . . .

"At Yale, Kerry was chairman of the Political Union and later, as Commencement speaker, urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations. And this was way back in 1966.

"When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy. The Navy assigned him to the USS Gridley which between December 1966 and July 1968 saw four months of action off the Vietnam coast. In August through November, 1968, Kerry was trained to be the skipper of a patrol boat for Vietnamese rivers. For the next five months, until April of 1969, Kerry was the commanding Lieutenant of a patrol boat in the Mekong Delta. He was wounded slightly on three different occasions and received a Silver Star for bravery. His patrol boat took part in Operation Sealords, mostly scouting out Viet Cong villages and transporting South Vietnamese marines to various destinations up and down narrow rivers covered with heavy foliage on either side. One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies, and better educational facilities.
. . . .
"Immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, Kerry said, would take about seven months due to complex logistics problems. During that interval he would allow only "self-defense return of fire." "Logistic suport is now what Nixon is talking about leaving there and I don't want to see that. I don't think we should leave support troops there and I don't think we should give Vietnam any more than the foreign aid given any other one country." He does not feel there would be a massive slaughter of American, sympathizers once the United States pulled out.

"In America, "everybody who's against the war is suddenly considered anti-American," Kerry said. "But I don't think they can turn to me and say I don't know what's going on or I'm a draft dodger." Referring to the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by L. Mendel Rivers (D-S.C.), Kerry said, "I want to go down to Washington and confront Medel Rivers, who never fought in a war.
. . . .

"He supports a volunteer Army, "if and only if we can create the controls for it. You're going to have to prepare for the possibility of a national emergency, however." Kerry said that the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

"On other issues, Kerry wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care."
. . . .

"Kerry's style can turn people off at first because he gives the initial impression of being too good to be true, of being just a little bit insincere. His preppiness might make you think he's a blueblood WASP, but Kerry is really a Roman Catholic. However, an afternoon on the campaign trail with Kerry leaves you with quite a different impression."


42 posted on 08/29/2004 1:43:51 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (.)
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