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Posted on 08/27/2004 6:22:46 PM PDT by Cableguy
Bob Dornan (R) and Pat Kadell (D) were just on Fox's Hannity & Colmes debating Kerry's predicament. Bob Dornan went on a savage attack, showing burned US flag and VC/Communist flags that were burned by Kerry's anti-war group in 1971. Dornan also wanted Fox to have anti-Kerry widows from the Vietnam war. Kadell was actually rational and his analysis I thought were excellent and on point. Kadell bascially said that Kerry/Democrats made a mistake making Kerry's Vietnam service the cornerstone of his campaign instead of talking about the issues.
I love Pat Cadell, he is a national treasure. That's probably why Matthews doesn't put him on anymore.
So let me get this straight. There is nothing in how I described Dornan that isn't accurate or inflammatory. And you attack me as a John Kerry "idol" worshipper for that? Give me a break. What a hypocrite you are.
"We know better": meaning what? You know better what?
I totally agree. When the Dem primary voters picked Kerry to get the nomination, the Dem base decided they wanted to refight Vietnam-- and with the "AWOL" charges and the uncritical coverage of Kerry's peacock dance at the convention, they were winning. Now the battle has been joined and they have gotten routed. They brought this all upon themselves.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about a political point, which is Republicans can't go too far in attacking Kerry on Vietnam, otherwise people will feel sorry for him. I want to attack Kerry in a fair way that will cause the media (especially the big liberal media) to bring out all of Kerry's lies. But if we attack Kerry in a savage way like Bob Dornan did tonight, the big media might join New York Times' side.
Glenn, much like Kerry -- is attempting to live off of "Honor" earned decades ago.... Glenn's was real, Kerry's wasn't..
But, Glenn sold out when he came to defense of Clinton in all his crimes....
Clinton paid him off, by allowing him to make one more trip into space under the weakest of explanation and justification..
It was CLEARLY a payoff for being Clinton's whore..
Semper Fi
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Well I'm sure some grunts I knew wish they had been considered "not trained" sufficient to insert in country.
Regardless, that was not my point. Kerry is unfit for his lies and treason. Bush is unfit for failing to follow thru in Iraq. How so? For allowing some terrorist and his gang of misfits holed up in a mosque to control the terrority while they continue to kill our troops.
We are at war with muslim terrorists. We need a President unwilling to negotiate with any of them. We need a President willing to search and destroy them all regardless of where they hide. ie some mosque.
Seems to me these Yale and Harvard grads just don't have what it takes to protect and preserve us. Sadly of late, it's these like guys who are our only choices for Commander in Chief.
You new here? Savage attacks aren't. And I don't think the judgement is whether we attack savagely because it may or may not cause backlash.. the issue is whether it's right or wrong.
Anyone remember what Ethics are?
How many people are aware that the anti-Vietnam protestors did much more than protest. They found actually gave information on POW's to the Viet Cong and lead to the execution of people who may have lived otherwise. They would get the names of soldiers who died in battle and then call their families and harass them... and much, much, more.
These people were the total scum of the earth and our "dear," prior President Clinton was one of them working on the outskirts (so as not to screw with his planned political career). Bob Dornan was there when Kerry was throwing his ribbons and they were burning flags and he's still mad as He-- and frankly I don't blame him! If people hate this country then go elsewhere and let the rest of us live here in peace!
We are talking about two different things. I am addressing politics, and you are talking about morality/ethics. If you want to talk about that, that is fine, but that is not my interest.
He is usually on Hardball, which I watched after the election when chrissy matthews still had a brain in his body and had not been driven to the point of insanity by liberalism. I like Pat Caddell.
Dornan knew 36 years ago that Kerry was a scumbag-only wish he had taken pictures.
He said that he had video -- I'm not sure he may have had the video with him (would have been super 8 back then) he wanted to show it. I think they were so stunned no one knew what to say at first. He definitely came prepared... I could have hugged him!
He was on Hardball a lot and, as usual, Chris(ie) kept cutting him off and then he and that Kristina Vandenhuvel got into it one Friday afternoon and he disappeared until recently when he started turning up on Fox. I think he may be a "moderate" Democrat... or, could it be? He's been Hannitized?
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Nearby?
"It is frustrating.," Kerry says of the criticism he's received. " People
said things, you know, about the medals. And I mean, I led that march,
I stood up at the goddamn thing, and I took my ribbons off my chest
and I threw them over the fence. I was the last person there, the leader
of the event. I waited till everyone had done their duty, then fulfilled
mine."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1201491/posts?
That is so true. This has been a long time coming. These people came back from Vietnam treated like THEY were the traitors. They were ridiculed, their families were harassed... I have several friends who served there. They ALL carry emotional scars from that war, more from what happened here than in Vietnam. They had to watch as Clinton stiffed them promising to bring home POW's and then once elected he made deals with the old enemy that actually caused many POW's to disappear forever. I could go on and on, but, yes, this isn't George Bush. This is payback... I predict we are going to live the late 60's early 70's all over again this week (in the form of the anarchists, many from the Vietnam period who are planning to cause trouble this week in NYC) and only Pray our President doesn't get hurt in the process.
Oh, I see. So if you go blow the oponent's brains out because you disagree with him, that's ok because it's politics. Ethics and morality belong somewhere else - right. And here you are asking questions about how to know if you've gone too far or not...
WHAT FREAKIN PLANET DO YOU PEOPLE COME FROM!
That's disgusting. I am so beside myself that a traitor can be a presidential candidate, and that the media acts as though it's nothing.
But, Jim we already elected a traitor (Clinton) he just did his stuff in England and behind the Iron Curtain in the late 60's. Kerry probably thought if we were stupid enough to elect Clinton for 8 years no one would notice that he was a traitor, too. Especially when he had the New York Times in his back pocket and a multi-millionaire wife to bankroll him.
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