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Militant Group Says It Downed Russian Jets
newsday/ap ^ | 8/27/2004 | MAAMOUN YOUSSEF

Posted on 08/27/2004 3:27:20 AM PDT by The Raven

CAIRO, Egypt -- A claim of responsibility for the downing of two Russian planes appeared on a Web site known for militant Muslim comment Friday. The statement, which accused Russians of killing Muslims in Chechnya, was signed "the Islambouli Brigades." A group with a similar name has claimed at least one previous attack, but the legitimacy of the group and the authenticity of such statements could not be verified. Russian officials have said terrorism was the most likely cause of Tuesday's plane crashes, which killed 89 people. "We in the Islambouli Brigades announce that our holy warriors managed to hijack two Russian planes and were crowned with success though they faced problems at the beginning," the statement said without elaborating on the problems. Friday's statement said five mujahedeen (Islamic fighters) were on board each plane and their wills will be published soon. The statement did not explain how the hijackers boarded the planes, how they downed them or give any other details. "Russia's slaughtering of Muslims is continuing and will only stop when a bloody war is launched," the statement said. "Our mujahedeen, with God's grace, succeeded in directing the first blow, which will be followed by a series of other operations in a wave of to extend support and victory to our Muslim brothers in Chechnya and other Muslim areas which suffer from Russian faithlessness." A July 31 Web statement signed the "Islambouli Brigades of al-Qaida" claimed responsibility for the attempt to assassinate Shaukat Aziz, Pakistan's prime minister-designate. Friday's claim did not refer to al-Qaida, the international terror network led by Osama bin Laden. Lt. Khaled Islambouli was the leader of the group of soldiers who assassinated Egyptian President Anwar Sadat during a military parade in Cairo in 1981.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Russia
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; anwarsadat; chechnya; islam; islambouli; islamboulibrigades; russianplanes; sadat
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To: The Raven
It figures-------Islam is the equivalent of Linda Blair in a peaceful world.
21 posted on 08/27/2004 4:50:55 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Islam is the equivalent of Linda Blair in a peaceful world.
That wasn't very sensitive of you was it ;-)
22 posted on 08/27/2004 5:09:39 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: The Raven

Islam is a threat to humanity.


23 posted on 08/27/2004 5:23:22 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: The Raven

FoxNews reported this morning that 2 Chechyn women (allegedly 1 on each plane) were on the planes.

1 of the Chechyn woman was the last passenger to board.

As for the Islamo group's claim, per FoxNews, they said they had 5 aboard each plane.

[If the intent was to blow up the plane in flight, why would they need 5 aboard each one? That seems a big waste of homocide bombers. If their intent was to hijack and use the planes as missiles, why wouldn't they have been hijacked earlier in the flight (less fuel consumption, bigger potential boom), and what would have been their intended targets? The two planes exploding within some 4 minutes of each other, yet 450 miles apart, seems to signify timed events (either automatic timers or persons wearing bomb with manual or auto ignition}.]


24 posted on 08/27/2004 5:48:31 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: The Raven

ROPMA


25 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:55 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: risk
" They've attacked the two most powerful countries in the world. Gee, I wonder if they have a plan..."

Gee. They attacked the UK too?

26 posted on 08/27/2004 5:57:14 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: Netizen

Here's a theory: There were 3 teams of five hijackers, each with pilot, per 911. One team fell apart for some reason before the mission and left their bomb to go off at the bus station. The other two teams successfully boarded and tried to commandeer their aircraft to crash land on Putin at Sochi (the scheduled destination of one of the flights and where Putin was vacationing). Both teams were denied control of their aircraft by passengers/crew per Flight 93, so went to plan B, which was simply to blow up the planes in flight.


27 posted on 08/27/2004 5:57:54 AM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: TomGuy

The one flight was scheduled to land at the exact city where Putin was that night. The other was on a near parallel flight path. It was going to be a 911-style decapitation attack on Putin, IMHO.


28 posted on 08/27/2004 6:00:08 AM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: The Raven
'Hijack signal' on missing plane

Posted by mikhailovich to antisocialista On News/Activism 08/25/2004 3:39:03 PM PDT · 126 of 133

I have flown out of Domodedovo airport on three occassions, most recently in March of this year. A couple of thoughts come to mind. Number one, it would be easier to target a Russian airliner than say an American or Swiss flight. The fact that Russian airliners were targeted raises much suspicion. The fact that one of the flights was enroute to the Black Sea where Putin is vacationing is another red flag. The fact that these planes left within 10 minutes of one another is another red flag. I believe this to be a Chechen operation. Some of them have Russian names and look Russian. Easier for them to get under the screens than an Arab. I also believe that had this been an Al-Queda operation, they would have gone for more bang for their buck and borded an international flight.....something not so easy to do anymore. Russians are not afraid to discriminate, and an Arab in their airport....let's just say I would not want to be him.

29 posted on 08/27/2004 6:21:38 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: mikhailovich; Dog; Peach; All

Dog had this right (of course, I think this was an easy call right away, but he was here very early on it).

On Paul Harvey at 8:30AM, he mentioned this claim by the Islamists, and also mentioned that there is a "new web site" run by some Islamic women recruiting women to conduct terrorist acts.

Be afraid... this appears that it may end in a fight to the finish between Islamists and the rest of the world.
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30 posted on 08/27/2004 6:27:29 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: The Raven

I work with a Russian kid that insists that this was merely a coincidence. No terrorist could possibly penetrate Russian security like that. Won't be the first time he was proven wrong (his communist upbringing provides us with a lot of entertainment).


31 posted on 08/27/2004 6:43:40 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: AFPhys
Siberian Air Passenger List

Moscow time, August 26.

Basyuk Flor Vasilievich Bogdanova Raisa Yakovlevna Bogomolov Vasily Yurievich Viazmin Alexandr Grigorievich Gorin Andrey Nikolaevich Gorshkov Victor Mikhailovich Dzhebirkhanova S Duratchenck Ivan Ivanovich Zviagintseva Larisa Anatolievna Kiseleva Elena Kamochkin Sergey Kuznetsov Sergey Nikolaevich Kulikov Andrey Yurievich Kurenda Sergey Vasilievich Menshikov Alexandr Dmitrievich Menshikov Andrey Anatolievich Menshikov Dmitry Nikolaevich Nadraga Alexandra Savelievna Nadraga Valery Anatolievich Naretin Dmitry Mikhailovich Oganesian Sarkis Andranikovich Panov Konstantin Alexandrovich Polyakov Vladimir Fedorovich Razzhivak Mikhail Georgievich Setdikov Marat Renatovich Stepanov Alexey Nikolaevich Stepanov Pavel Vadimovich Stepanova Anastasiya Radievna Tarasov Stanislav Ivanovich Todorochko Yuri Mikhailovich Fetisova Ekaterina Yurievna Finadeev Nikolay Viktorovich Khlushkova Natalia Yurievna Khlushkova Yulia Shapkin Boris Anatolievich Sharov Sergey Victorovich Shonia Olga Borisovna, Scherbovich Irina

Those are some names that are being mulled over by Russian FSA at this time.

32 posted on 08/27/2004 6:46:26 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: TomGuy

CNN is reporting that remains of both Chechen women have not been found. I'm going with the theory that the women wore the explosives, perhaps internally, and therefore remains will not be found.


33 posted on 08/27/2004 6:52:25 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: The Raven

Russia/s 9/11.

At the hands of the religion of pieces.

God **** these animals. Kill them all and let God sort them out. PC for these POS is obscene. Are ya' listenin' US government??


34 posted on 08/27/2004 6:56:43 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: LikeLight
Here's a theory: There were 3 teams of five hijackers, each with pilot, per 911. One team fell apart for some reason before the mission and left their bomb to go off at the bus station. The other two teams successfully boarded and tried to commandeer their aircraft to crash land on Putin at Sochi (the scheduled destination of one of the flights and where Putin was vacationing). Both teams were denied control of their aircraft by passengers/crew per Flight 93, so went to plan B, which was simply to blow up the planes in flight.

Sounds about right. I'll add one extra. The first flight was probably headed for Putin at Sochi and the second may have been meant for some place in Moscow (Kremlin?).

Had the first plane crashed prior to the second plane taking off, its possible that the second plane would have taken over the 'mission' of the failed first.

35 posted on 08/27/2004 6:56:55 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: jojodamofo
Does anybody know how to say "Let's roll" in Russian? LOL!

The closest thing ... Muy dvigayem ... We move

36 posted on 08/27/2004 7:04:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: mikhailovich
The fact that these planes left within 10 minutes of one another is another red flag.

Unless a new time line has come out, they left an hour apart.

Prosecutor General Vladimir Ustinov told Putin he had no clear view of what happened to the planes, which took off from Moscow's Domodedovo airport late on Tuesday around an hour apart for two different destinations. Link to story - 3rd paragraph

37 posted on 08/27/2004 7:06:48 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
CNN is reporting that remains of both Chechen women have not been found. I'm going with the theory that the women wore the explosives, perhaps internally, and therefore remains will not be found.

That was my thought, too.

38 posted on 08/27/2004 7:09:24 AM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
I'm going with the theory that the women wore the explosives, perhaps internally, and therefore remains will not be found.

If proven true, imagine the searches we'll be subjected to by TSA screeners now.

39 posted on 08/27/2004 7:13:06 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Peach
The 9/11 Commission Report told us not to distinguish between Islamic groups because they are all part of the same problem - fundamental Islam.

really? I haven't read it ... do you have (a) page reference(s)? thanks in advance
40 posted on 08/27/2004 7:24:02 AM PDT by Bobby777
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