[Incorrigible]

Ha! Ha!

Is there one Vietnam story that Kerry hasn't lied about?

[TomGuy]

Technicality....

Kerry did serve aboard a ship that was in the VN coastal waters during that timeframe.

[barker]

Not a single one. Never has told the truth/never will.

[doug from upland]

He was on the Gridley at the time, probably off the coast of Vietnam. He is stretching it, but this might not be a total lie.

[Texasforever]

This ranks right up there with Clinton remembering all of those "burning black churches" when he was a kid.

[Mr. Mojo]

A chronic, pathological liar. .....seemingly for the hell it, not unlike Algore.

[DouglasKC]

Kerry served in Vietnam??

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

Here is the kind of “liar” that Kerry is: Kerry titles his book "Tour of Duty" for his service in Vietnam. He also claims that he had TWO tours of duty in Vietnam (because of his time on the USS Gridley).

John Kerry was in Vietnam (for 4 months) and yes he was on the deep-water coast of Vietnam on the USS Gridley (for a few weeks), but he did not serve a tour in Vietnam.

A Tour in the Nam was 12 months, one year, 365 days, one trip around the sun. Guys would count down the days until their time was up. It was a big deal. When you only had a few weeks to go until your 12 months was up, you were "SHORT", going home soon. When you broke 100 days you were a “Double Digit”. A “Single Digit” Vet (less than 10 days to go) could be found in his hooch packing.

This issue is important for this reason. John Kerry knows that he didn't serve a Tour, let alone TWO Tours, in Vietnam yet he brazenly reports that he did.

One might argue 'Well, the time that Kerry spent in Nam was HIS tour, so what is the big deal"?

If that is your argument then Kerry should have named his book "My Time in Nam" or something. Not give the impression that he spent a tour in Nam. AND, there is NO excuse for his claim for TWO TOURS in Nam. It is John Kerry spinning the truth to make himself something that he is not.

As far as Unfit for Command is concerned, I have read it. The Swifties could care less if John Kerry got medals, their issue is the same as what I explained above (and the fact that Kerry smeared their good name with his lies) and that is that Kerry diverts from the truth to make himself into something that he is not so much, that he cannot be trusted.

Kerry embellished his After Action Reports to get medals that he didn’t deserve. He fabricated accusations when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top? They were untrue! And his falsifications harmed POW’s, their families, and Vietnam Veterans in general.

POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his fabricated stories to the Senate and the American public to bolster his political ambitions were tortured and threatened to be placed on trial as “War Criminals”. POW’s were told by their captors “You will never go home” because of Kerry’s fabrications. Kerry’s untrue accusations are unforgivable.

General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communist’s military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the Anti-War movement in America (led by Jane Fonda and John Kerry) they felt that the Demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

America was kicking the Communist’s butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communist’s number and was winning the war. America’s pullout of Vietnam was due to Kerry and his group of Demonstrators. Kerry’s ant-war activities played a very significant part in causing America to lose the war in Vietnam.

Because of John Kerry and others like him there are more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there otherwise would have been. There was also the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out that is significantly attributable to John Kerry and his now admittedly “over the top” accusations. John Kerry has blood dripping from his untrue accusations.

When I returned home to Los Angeles from Vietnam in 1971 my head was spinning as I walked through the Terminal at LAX, thinking about the culture of war that I had just left while looking around at the opulence in America. When I stepped outside onto the sidewalk a group of “Longhairs” walked by and one of them spat on me while the others called me a “Baby Killer”. I feel that the treatment that I received, and have lived with for the past 33 years, was due to John Kerry and his lies.

John Kerry does not have the moral integrity, honesty, or judgment to be the Commander-In-Chief of the world’s most powerful military. John Kerry IS, unfit for command.

Vietnam Veteran

Mekong Delta 1970-1971

[Bob]

According to kerry's fitness reports, the timeline in "Unfit for Command" is wrong on Gridley's location.

His fitness report shows Gridley enroute to Gulf of Tonkin SAR duty on 1 April 1986 from Subic Bay.

[TheBigB]

Just a mistake. He meant to say he was in Cambodia.

[nopardons]

Nope.

[Paleo Conservative]

Kerry might have taken a trip in the spring of 1968, but it wasn't on a 707.

[armymarinemom]

Well geee, I was in Memphis at the time during the riots and Marshall law. I guess that means that I had seen more hostile action than Kerry had at that time and I wasn't even out of grade school yet. LOL

[Kirkwood]

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[Mrs Zip]

ping

[Imaverygooddriver]

I think pretty soon we`re going to see Kerry in a straight jacket banging his head against a padded cell saying "Vietnam! Vietnam! Vietnam!" like a parrot on crack. "What`s his problem Doctor?" "He cannot stop saying Vietnam. Everything he talks about has the word Vietnam in it"

[BenLurkin]

The real shocker is that Kerry referred to MLK, Jr. as "that unabashedly maladjusted citizen".

A very offensive characterization, IMO.

Not sure why Fox News chose to clean it up for him . . . they shouldn't have.

[smoothsailing]

Last I heard was that Kerry was orbiting the moon with the Apollo 8 astronauts on Christmas Eve 1968.

Cambodia?

Who woulda thunk it?

Gee, I gotta Ketchup!

[ALASKA]

"I remember the day the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, I was sitting on the deck of my swift boat counting my medals............."

[Southack]

"That date was April 4th, 1968, but according to Kerry's own Website, it was not until November 17, 1968, that he reported for duty in Vietnam."

This is one of the many ways that Leftists get conservatives to thrash their own credibility.

The Clintons were masters at it...the whole art of spreading a false rumor.

In this case, Senator Kerry was in the Vietnam combat area...stationed offshore on the USS Gridley when MLK was assasinated.

But now good conservatives are taking the bait and running with the rumor that Kerry wasn't there.

That trashes *our* credibility and helps JFK's efforts to hurt the swiftvets and move on to other subjects.

Keep in mind that just because you *want* to believe something bad about someone, it may not be true...and if you repeat something bad that isn't true, you'll be embarassed by the person smart-enough to fool you.

There will be more such false rumors about Senator Kerry in the future.

Try to not be fooled again.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

[dc-zoo]

Another one of Kerry's spontanious vietnam bedtime stories. He probably bores Teresa to death with them every night.