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Brit Hume Grapevine: Kerry claims in Vietnam during MLK's death
FoxNews ^ | 8/26/2004 | Brit Hume

Posted on 08/26/2004 9:45:21 PM PDT by Incorrigible

Celebration Speech

John Kerry, speaking at a Martin Luther King Day celebration in Virginia last year, said, "I remember well April 1968, I was serving in Vietnam , a place of violence, when the news reports brought home to me and my crewmates the violence back home, and the tragic news that one of the bullets flying that terrible spring took the life of [Dr. King]."

That date was April 4th, 1968, but according to Kerry's own Website, it was not until November 17, 1968, that he reported for duty in Vietnam.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; kerrylies
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Ha! Ha!

Is there one Vietnam story that Kerry hasn't lied about?

1 posted on 08/26/2004 9:45:22 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible

Technicality....

Kerry did serve aboard a ship that was in the VN coastal waters during that timeframe.


2 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:18 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Incorrigible

Not a single one. Never has told the truth/never will.


3 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:32 PM PDT by barker (Never read the fine print. There ain't no way you're going to like it.)
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To: Incorrigible

He was on the Gridley at the time, probably off the coast of Vietnam. He is stretching it, but this might not be a total lie.


4 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: Incorrigible
This ranks right up there with Clinton remembering all of those "burning black churches" when he was a kid.
5 posted on 08/26/2004 9:47:49 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Incorrigible

A chronic, pathological liar. .....seemingly for the hell it, not unlike Algore.


6 posted on 08/26/2004 9:48:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Incorrigible

Kerry served in Vietnam??


7 posted on 08/26/2004 9:48:54 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Incorrigible
Here is the kind of “liar” that Kerry is: Kerry titles his book "Tour of Duty" for his service in Vietnam. He also claims that he had TWO tours of duty in Vietnam (because of his time on the USS Gridley).

John Kerry was in Vietnam (for 4 months) and yes he was on the deep-water coast of Vietnam on the USS Gridley (for a few weeks), but he did not serve a tour in Vietnam.

A Tour in the Nam was 12 months, one year, 365 days, one trip around the sun. Guys would count down the days until their time was up. It was a big deal. When you only had a few weeks to go until your 12 months was up, you were "SHORT", going home soon. When you broke 100 days you were a “Double Digit”. A “Single Digit” Vet (less than 10 days to go) could be found in his hooch packing.

This issue is important for this reason. John Kerry knows that he didn't serve a Tour, let alone TWO Tours, in Vietnam yet he brazenly reports that he did.

One might argue 'Well, the time that Kerry spent in Nam was HIS tour, so what is the big deal"?

If that is your argument then Kerry should have named his book "My Time in Nam" or something. Not give the impression that he spent a tour in Nam. AND, there is NO excuse for his claim for TWO TOURS in Nam. It is John Kerry spinning the truth to make himself something that he is not.

As far as Unfit for Command is concerned, I have read it. The Swifties could care less if John Kerry got medals, their issue is the same as what I explained above (and the fact that Kerry smeared their good name with his lies) and that is that Kerry diverts from the truth to make himself into something that he is not so much, that he cannot be trusted.

Kerry embellished his After Action Reports to get medals that he didn’t deserve. He fabricated accusations when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top? They were untrue! And his falsifications harmed POW’s, their families, and Vietnam Veterans in general.

POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his fabricated stories to the Senate and the American public to bolster his political ambitions were tortured and threatened to be placed on trial as “War Criminals”. POW’s were told by their captors “You will never go home” because of Kerry’s fabrications. Kerry’s untrue accusations are unforgivable.

General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communist’s military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the Anti-War movement in America (led by Jane Fonda and John Kerry) they felt that the Demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

America was kicking the Communist’s butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communist’s number and was winning the war. America’s pullout of Vietnam was due to Kerry and his group of Demonstrators. Kerry’s ant-war activities played a very significant part in causing America to lose the war in Vietnam.

Because of John Kerry and others like him there are more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there otherwise would have been. There was also the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out that is significantly attributable to John Kerry and his now admittedly “over the top” accusations. John Kerry has blood dripping from his untrue accusations.

When I returned home to Los Angeles from Vietnam in 1971 my head was spinning as I walked through the Terminal at LAX, thinking about the culture of war that I had just left while looking around at the opulence in America. When I stepped outside onto the sidewalk a group of “Longhairs” walked by and one of them spat on me while the others called me a “Baby Killer”. I feel that the treatment that I received, and have lived with for the past 33 years, was due to John Kerry and his lies.

John Kerry does not have the moral integrity, honesty, or judgment to be the Commander-In-Chief of the world’s most powerful military. John Kerry IS, unfit for command.

Vietnam Veteran

Mekong Delta 1970-1971

8 posted on 08/26/2004 9:49:17 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: Incorrigible
According to kerry's fitness reports, the timeline in "Unfit for Command" is wrong on Gridley's location.

His fitness report shows Gridley enroute to Gulf of Tonkin SAR duty on 1 April 1986 from Subic Bay.

9 posted on 08/26/2004 9:49:23 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Incorrigible

Just a mistake. He meant to say he was in Cambodia.


10 posted on 08/26/2004 9:49:26 PM PDT by TheBigB (Sure wish -I- had one'a them anti-shrew barrels...)
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To: Incorrigible

Nope.


11 posted on 08/26/2004 9:49:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

12 posted on 08/26/2004 9:50:23 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: Bob

Make that 1968, not 1986. Duh!


13 posted on 08/26/2004 9:50:29 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Incorrigible

Kerry might have taken a trip in the spring of 1968, but it wasn't on a 707.


14 posted on 08/26/2004 9:51:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Incorrigible
Well geee, I was in Memphis at the time during the riots and Marshall law. I guess that means that I had seen more hostile action than Kerry had at that time and I wasn't even out of grade school yet. LOL
15 posted on 08/26/2004 9:53:42 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Ultimate Flip Flop->I support the Troops but not their mission)
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To: Incorrigible

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16 posted on 08/26/2004 9:55:46 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: zip

ping


17 posted on 08/26/2004 9:57:59 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: TomGuy

Then he should have referred to his shipmates.


18 posted on 08/26/2004 10:00:12 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Kerry lied while good men died.)
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To: Incorrigible

I think pretty soon we`re going to see Kerry in a straight jacket banging his head against a padded cell saying "Vietnam! Vietnam! Vietnam!" like a parrot on crack. "What`s his problem Doctor?" "He cannot stop saying Vietnam. Everything he talks about has the word Vietnam in it"


19 posted on 08/26/2004 10:01:03 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (I`m John Kerry and I approve this message: "I am a pinko punk azz")
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To: Mr. Mojo
kerry a Pathological Liar? I used to think so, too; but now I know better.

I heard a psychologist on Hugh Hewitt describe kerry as either a Sociopath or a Delusional. These are worse than pathological liar, because the individual cannot be treated, and has no feelings of remorse - only self absorption to the exclusion of all other things. Thus, such an individual would put himself above other veterans of the Viet Nam kerfuffle (like me) and even above the County's well being. We could be talking another Norman Bates here.
In clear contrast to kerry's sicko pathology is President George W. Bush, who is willing to accept a risk to his personal ratings in order to keep the fight against terrorists in THEIR turf (Country above self.)
20 posted on 08/26/2004 10:03:14 PM PDT by Seaplaner ( "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." Winston Churchill)
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