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how exactly does one define a NeoCon?
One must admire Mr. Carney's thesis: Why fight terrorism when you can fight your fellow Americans?
A hawk who hates social conservatives.
NeoCon is a communist in conservative suit.
My definition of neo-conservatism is:
A intellectual movement born during Cold War which had roots among Wilsonian liberals, former leftists (some related to anti-Soviet Trotskyite factions). Fiercely anti-communist, supportive of big military and foreign interventions.
Neocons at first wanted to be considered conservative, but meeting the resistence from the original real conservatives who were anti-interventionists, suspicious of big government and sceptical toward utopias of New World Order, ended up with "neo" prefix. The actual conservatives are named sometimes paleo-conservatives to contrast them with neocons.
I have never seen
an official def. I use
the understanding
real conservatives
respect individuals,
and acknowledge that
individuals
create society by
their thoughts and actions.
I think neo-cons
are people who have embraced
the liberal love
of the collective
and social engineering
over free action.
It's true neo-cons
set different targets for
their engineering,
and use different
collective social units,
but I see their thoughts
are built from the same
basic concepts as the Left.
Both have contempt for
individuals
thinking or living freely
without some "elites" . . .
A Scoop Jackson Democrat?
Meanwhile:
"Paleos" are frauds if they call themselves conservative. They are extreme eccentrics who were unemployable by the Reagan administration because of their nonpresentable social demeanor and wild-eyed fanaticism for what can never again be if ever it was. Their predecessors wore themselves out smooching the backsides of Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Ho Chi Minh in the hope that they would be loved by our enemies. Today they smooch Hussein (a lesser god to be sure). Pat Buchanan must ahve lost his mind to hang politically with such a menagerie of crackpots who are the "paleos." I voted twice for Buchanan but he can kiss off now. His reputation cannot be restored.
Carney complains about the Frum article (National Review, 4/03). He would make much of Frum being a pro-abort and that is fair, every bit as fair as demanding that the "paleos" account for such lavender queens as Justin Raimondo (foreign minister of the paleos) and his barf-bag worthy antiwar.com (don't believe me but check for yourself). Carney can also explain the anti-Semitism, racism, isolationism, border paranoia and a variety of libertine (libertarian) obsessives that so characterizes so many in "paleo" ranks. Frum is no prize but he understands the "paleos" far better than they understand themselves. Stopped clocks are right twice a day.
The neoconservatives (mostly over eighty and some dead) are: Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Irving Kristol, Gertrude Himmelfarb, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Sidney Hook, Jeanne Kirkpatrick and a few others). They (mostly) fled the Demonratic Party when that party became pro-communist and anti-American with the nomination of George McGovern. Their foreign policy is very much that of the post-Pearl Harbor American conservative political movement.
Those accused of being merely "neoconservative" by leftist and "paleo" enemies of all respectable things conservative are, well, the conservative movement, which is to say: conservatives. Conservative foreign policy is interventionist and not cowardly or pantywaist. Neville Chamberlain was an early George McGovern or Tom Hayden or Justin Raimondo or John Kerry and not not an early Ronald Reagan or Dubya.
Conservative foreign and military policy does not consist of crawling on our knees begging to kiss the backsides of the enemies of our civilization so that monsters may adore or ignore us but of employing our military as necessary to kill our enemies (those monsters) and break their things.
John Forbes Kerry is a despicable excuse for a human being NOT because he served, however briefly, but because he libeled a generation of noble young men, far better men than Kerry ever was or would be, soldiers who did their part to exterminate communism but failed because of the lies of the John Kerrys and the William Sloane Coffins, and the Jane Fondas and the Tom Haydens and the Jerry Rubins and the Abbie Hoffmans and their ilk. Like Kerry, these are the true forebears of today's "paleo" "conservative," enemies of America, each and every one. They believe nothing worth fighting to defend and they are most certainly are NOT any kind of conservative.
how exactly does one define a NeoCon?
A Neo-con, someone who understands it 2004
A Paleocon, Someone who wants it to be 1934
My definition: Liberals who really really like to blow things up so much that it estranges them from pacifistic liberals.
In far left and right circles it equals JEW.
joos and their supporters.
like me.
Neocons are Amercian imperialists.
Well it looks like you will have about 30 different definitions by the 50th post. Have any other questions we can help you with?
Apparently it is a Jewish Conservative, although they wont say THAT.
To the left, "neocon" is a synonym for "apostate Jew" (that is, a Jew who has escaped the liberal ghetto).