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Between my ears | 8/23/-04 | Self

Posted on 08/23/2004 6:37:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Have you noticed that when Kerry showed the picture of the 23 Vietnam SwiftBoat vets that they "served with him" yet when he found out that the vast majority actually oppose him, suddenly if you weren't actually on the boat, you didn't serve with him.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: kerry; liar; slanderer; sleaze; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 08/23/2004 6:37:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

great point


2 posted on 08/23/2004 6:38:54 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yep. Have you noticed this?



Kerry Lies

War Criminal or War Hero,
See both you cannot be.
You claimed you burned a village,
Sounds like a crime to me.
Cambodia in Sixty-Eight,
You say that you were there.
You said Nixon said you weren’t,
Just why would Nixon care?
He wasn’t even president,
Till Nineteen Sixty-Nine.
But details never bother you,
Bold lies do suit you fine.
Three Purple Hearts for paper cuts,
A Bronze and Silver Star.
Then home you came, threw them away,
But look now, there they are.
You testified with still more lies,
About brave fighting men.
The things you claimed that they did,
Just aren’t true now or then.
So tell us please John Kerry,
Which lie we should believe.
Oh what a tangled web you weave,
You practice to deceive.

Conspiracy Guy aka DIF 8/10/2004
Photo by MeekOneGOP

3 posted on 08/23/2004 6:41:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, PBWD, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Your point is absolutely correct. Those people who "didn't serve with Kerry" are the exact same people Kerry was using in his ads.

He kept running the pic, even after finding out everyone opposed him. The Swiftboat Vets gave their first press conference in May. Even Fox News snubbed it.


4 posted on 08/23/2004 6:43:06 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Even better, the one guy on the boat who is against him doesn't count.

If Kerry is such a great military leader, why does he alienate so many Vets? Hint: you don't get very far when you call your colleagues and commanders war criminals and fail to produce evidence and later claim to be a hero.


5 posted on 08/23/2004 6:52:55 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Baynative

I'll note that this new talking point (still carries schrapnel) implies there is no scar to be seen, thus no evidence to prove or disprove. Just fog to give kerry voters a hook, albeit a weak one, to use.


7 posted on 08/23/2004 6:58:13 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Add to that [per the Kerry campaign]....

Kerry defenders, for the most part, did not serve with, even near, him. They include political hacks from previous administrations. Only one or two who actually served with or close by Kerry are defending him. But that is ok--because they are given credibility to defend Kerry anyway.

Kerry detractors must have served on the boat with Kerry for them to be credible. Those who served even on other boats in the area are not deemed credible.

Additionally, it is ok for the Dem supporting 527's to attack Bush, but it isn't ok for the SBV's to attack Kerry---and that is Bush's fault.

And the beat goes on.....and the beat on.
8 posted on 08/23/2004 7:03:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
THIS NEVER GETS REPORTED!!!

Kerry used these vets' pictures without permission.

Now, he slanders them.

9 posted on 08/23/2004 7:03:24 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

They served before they didn't serve.


10 posted on 08/23/2004 7:03:35 AM PDT by DonnerT (The 'Fourth Estate' has now become the terrorists 'Fifth Column.')
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Each time I see this picture, I see four guys standing together, and John Kerry standing apart from them (or them apart from him). The subtle body language in that photo speaks volumes.


11 posted on 08/23/2004 7:12:29 AM PDT by bk1000 ("We will take things away from you for the common good.": -HRC)
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To: C210N

I own a metal detector and until I hear it buzz over Kerrys arse I aint buying the shrapnel line.


12 posted on 08/23/2004 7:20:31 AM PDT by Manic_Episode
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To: bk1000

Have those other guys been identified and have they given any interviews?

Someone, a couple of weeks ago, posted that the photo may be fake, because the shadowing seems awkward. I haven't seen any follow up on that.


13 posted on 08/23/2004 7:25:17 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: TomGuy
Kerry defenders, for the most part, did not serve with, even near, him.

Most never served at all.

14 posted on 08/23/2004 7:27:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: TomGuy

I identify the guy in the background as Lt.Dan which means that maybe Kerry is really Forest Gump.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 7:55:09 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: ABN 505
You make a good point, they both got hit in the "buttocks" while rescuing a comrade! I guess that Forrest Gump was really all about Kerry, as well as Apocalypse Now. Tell you what, Kerry is delusional, and we are in a heap o' trouble if he is elected in November.
16 posted on 08/23/2004 8:10:22 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Have you noticed none of his band of brothers ever goes on TV to debate SBVT members? It's always some kerry veteran coordinator -- who wasn't there and wouldn't know.


17 posted on 08/23/2004 9:01:33 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Gothmog

Yep. Have you also noticed that the crewmen who do support him consult with the campaign before they answer?


18 posted on 08/23/2004 9:04:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I'm curious about David Alston. There's been speculation he did not serve 'with' Kerry because he was injured, yet he's publicly testified to Kerry's actions. I'm wondering whether he won't appear because Odell, et al., would simply say 'How do you know, you weren't there at the time.' Ha ha ha. That would be very funny.


19 posted on 08/23/2004 9:13:27 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Gothmog

I don't know if that question has been cleared up or not.


20 posted on 08/23/2004 9:17:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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