Patriot Paradox
Posted on 08/21/2004 9:20:58 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
The Kerry campaign just keeps coming with attack after attack on the Swifties. He calls them Republican activist and Bush cronies, but what about MoveOn.org? They attack Bush all the time with nary a whimper from the President. Perhaps he is thicker skinned? In any case lets look at these two 527s, info courtesy of opensecrets.org:
OpenSecrets.org's description:
Begun in 1998 to protest the impeachment of President Clinton, the group has become a powerful political force since then. Its political action committee, the MoveOn PAC, spends millions of dollars to support the election of Democratic candidates. The MoveOn.org Voter Fund is raising soft money, which may be contributed in unlimited amounts, for TV ads in key battleground states that are critical of President Bush.
Oh, but wait. Soros also decided to donate to John Kerry! According to the OpenSecrets.org donor look-up he donated $2000 to the Kerry Campaign. Remember, however, that Soros is a Liberal and is not allowed scrutiny in his donations. Only Conservatives or people who support Bush are culpable.
Looking at the Swifties now:
OpenSecrets.org's description:
SBVT represents Vietnam Swift boat veterans who are critical of Democrat John Kerry's decision to make his military service a major part of his campaign for president. The group questions Kerry's record in Vietnam and denounces his anti-war activities following his military service. The group's donors include some major Republican contributors.
Yeah, they are the big bullies here. The issue is that Kerry can only attack the Swifties by saying they are associated with Bush, and in the end it won't work. Bush's connection to the Swift Boat Vets is the same as Kerry's to the MoveOn.org group. Kerry cannot prove a connection, and in the end it won't matter. His only defense is to attack the issues raised, and he will do no so thing.
Another thing to look at is the top 10 donors to 527 Committees. You'd expect huge rich rich rich Republicans to fill the top but you'd be wrong. Here they are:
1 Peter Lewis
Peter B Lewis/Progressive Corp
Cleveland, OH
$14,030,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $7,750,000
America Coming Together $2,995,000
MoveOn.org $2,500,000
Marijuana Policy Project $485,000
Young Democrats of America $250,000
PunkVoter Inc $50,000
2. George Soros
Soros Fund Management
New York, NY
$12,600,000
America Coming Together $5,000,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $4,550,000
MoveOn.org $2,500,000
Campaign for America's Future $300,000
Democracy for America $250,000
SOROS, GEORGE
NEW YORK,NY 10106
SOROS FUNDS MANAGEMENT/INVESTOR
3/31/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John
3 Steven Bing
Shangri-La Entertainment
Los Angeles, CA
$8,086,273
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $6,964,846
MoveOn.org $971,427
Americans for Progress & Opportunity $150,000
4 Andrew & Deborah Rappaport
August Capital
Woodside, CA
$2,910,000
Music for America $1,550,000
New Democrat Network $1,100,000
Democrats 2000 $200,000
America Votes $50,000
EMILY's List Non-Federal $10,000
5 John A & Lawrie Harris
Changing Horizons Fund
Berwyn, PA
$1,674,000
League of Conservation Voters $1,478,000
State Conservation Voters Action Fund $130,000
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund $28,000
Sierra Club $28,000
MoveOn.org $10,000
HARRIS, LAWRIE R MS
BERWYN,PA 19312
3/31/2004
$1,000
Kerry, John
6 Lewis Cullman
Cullman Foundation/Cullman Ventures
New York, NY
$1,650,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,000,000
America Coming Together $500,000
MoveOn.org $100,000
Americans for Jobs, Healthcare & Values $50,000
CULLMAN, LEWIS B
NEW YORK,NY 10017
CULLMAN VENTURES/PRESIDENT
2/27/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John
7 Agnes Varis
Agvar Chemicals
New York, NY
$1,500,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,500,000
VARIS, AGNES
NEW YORK,NY 10019
AGVAR INC./DOCTOR
3/16/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John
8. Alida R Messinger
Alida Messinger Charitable Lead Trust
New York, NY
$1,158,000
America Coming Together $500,000
League of Conservation Voters $500,000
State Conservation Voters Action Fund $133,000
Democrats 2000 $25,000
MESSINGER, ALIDA R
NEW YORK,NY 10112
SELF/PHILANTHROPIST
6/11/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John
9. Fred Eychaner
Newsweb Corp
Chicago, IL
$1,150,000
America Coming Together $500,000
Media Fund $500,000
Voices For Working Families $150,000
EYCHANER, FRED
CHICAGO,IL 60614
NEWSWEB CORPORATION/PRESIDENT
4/5/2004
$2,000
Kerry, John
10. Susie Tompkins Buell
Susie Tompkins Buell Foundation
San Francisco, CA
$1,020,000
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 $1,000,000
EMILY's List Non-Federal $20,000
BUELL, SUSIE TOMPKINS
SAN FRANCISCO,CA 94111
RETIRED/RETIRED
3/12/2003
$2,000
Kerry, John
8 out of 10 also donated to Kerry, the max of $2000. The rest they are pouring into 527's, for some odd reason...
Yeah, those 527 have NOTHING to do with helping Kerry.
Great post. This is the type of info that the GOP establishment should be revealing to the general public at every opportunity. An all out effort is needed to expose the people who are backing Kerry and the millions of dollars they've spent to attack the character, integrity and credibility of the President. When presented with the facts, most Americans are very capable of understanding the difference between expenditures of $65 million against Bush versus $500K against Kerry.
Ping
The implications are marvelous.
The Swift-vets get More Bang for Thier Bucks!
It is more affordable to tell the truth than pay for a lie.
Blessings, Bobo
I found the name I was looking for:
Harold Ickes.
bump!!
Perhaps something good will come out of this 527 controversy. CFR will be rescinded, McCain-Feingold and the SCOTUS be darned! (wishful thinking?)
That website, http://www.opensecrets.org, is a real jewel.
You can even put in a zip code and find out who is giving to whom right in your home area. (100% Republican here in my remote corner of the northeast Texas Piney Woods...)
IMHO, http://www.opensecrets.org should be a required bookmark for every FReeper who is interested in serious activism...
HAROLD ICKES!!!!!!
Wonderful job!
It bugs me the most that those on our side who are all over the TV screen making silly arguments do not emphasize the huge disparity in funding of the Swift vets and MoveOn.
Occasionally there is a vague reference to Soros, but no specifics.
I want to hear them say, as of August 15, 2004:
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth had Total Receipts: $158,750 and Total Expenditures: $60,403.
MoveOn.org had Total Receipts: $9,086,102 and Total Expenditures: $17,435,782.
A Web page misconfiguration left dozens of the liberal political group's subscriber pages easily searchable through simple Google queries. Each page included a subscriber's name, e-mail address and the mailing lists to which he or she is subscribed. CNET News.com confirmed that several related searches turned up more than two dozen individual subscriber pages.
"This is extremely disturbing," said one subscriber, when contacted through e-mail. The subscriber asked that his or her name not be used. "I'm not sure if I should be worried or not, but I am," the person said.
The subscriber Web pages linked member's names with interests in various topics, "Distortion of evidence" for one, and, for another, Errol Morris, the director of the documentary "The Fog of War," which won the Oscar for its portrayal of the life of Vietnam era Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. ***
Zach Exley - former director of special projects at MoveOn, now Kerry's director of online communications
Robert Gibbs - former Kerry campaign press secretary now with Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values
Jim Jordan - former Kerry campaign manager, now with Americans Coming Together and the Media Fund
Rodney Shelton - was with Americans Coming Together, now the Kerry campaign director in Arkansas
Joseph Sandler - MoveOn.org Voter Fund lawyer, general council DNC
Matt Damon - MoveOn donor and best bud with Kerry groupie Ben Affleck. (Hey, that's at least as good at the NYT's chart)
Is he the kook that thinks half the populace is Reptilian aliens, or have I been at the computer too long....
That would be David Icke.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/
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Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (news - web sites), left, and William B. Rood, right, are shown in this undated photo at the Swift boat base at An Thoi shortly after the action for which Kerry was awarded the Silver Star and Rood was awarded the Bronze Star in early 1969 during his service in Vietnam. Both men are holding weapons captured in the mission. Rood, a night city editor with the Chicago Tribune, who served with Kerry during the Vietnam War as the commander of a Navy swift boat on the 1969 mission ischallenging the attacks on Kerry's account of the incident. (AP Photo/Chicago Tribune, Courtesy William B. Rood)
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