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Terror leaflets found at mosque [San Jose Website Incites Murder of British People]
ic Birmingham.co.uk ^ | Aug 15 2004 | Jeanette Oldham

Posted on 08/19/2004 10:03:58 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt

San Jose Website Incites Murder of British People

British Muslim leaders angry:



Terror leaflets found at mosque
By Jeanette Oldham, Sunday Mercury, Aug 15 2004
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Hundreds of leaflets urging Muslims to become terrorist fighters have been distributed at a Midland mosque.

Police have been called in to investigate after the flyers were found at Birmingham Central Mosque last week.

The leaflets urge worshippers to become Mujahideen fighters and ask them to 'pray for death and decay to be visited upon the West'.

The literature bears the name of a group called Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah, which mosque officials say is often used as an alias for the Al Muhajiroun group.

Al Muhajiroun, a small radical organisation which has called for a British Islamic state, has been accused of inciting terrorism, anti-Semitism and homophobia.

Mosque chairman Dr Mohammed Naseem warned that the leaflets could act as a recruitment aid for would-be terrorists.

"It is very worrying," he said. "These leaflets appear to be encouraging Muslims to become Mujahideen fighters.

"This sort of thing getting into the wrong hands is very dangerous.

"They are the views of a minority of people but young, impressionable Muslims may read this and think they should be doing these things.

"I shall be showing the leaflets to our community policeman and asking him for advice."

A mosque official who discovered piles of the leaflets at the religious centre said: "We found two varieties of a very similar flyer. It was immediately obvious that they were produced by Al Muhajiroun using their misleading alias.

"We removed them immediately after conferring with mosque staff. We have attempted to contact the authors by calling them but we have had no success.

The spokesman added: "We do not support this kind of stuff in the mosque because it can act as a recruiting sergeant for terror-related activities.

"This group's literature has found its way into the mosque before and we have banned it.

"Most of it is political ranting and raving. But we have never had anything as hate-filled as these leaflets or something which encourages people to join the Mujahideen."

Dr Naseem said he blamed the Government for Al Muhajiroun's continuing presence in Britain.

"Its leaders continue to preach and incite terrorism and yet the Government does not nothing about it," he said.

"These people should be removed from the country."

ic Birmingham.co.uk, Aug. 15, 2004



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To: Calpernia
The Qu'ran has multiple translations, but very little difference. It is the intreptations of the Qu'ran that make it into laws so you have to include the Hadith or written oral history of the early Mulsim Horde to understand the almost incoherent babble that the Qu'ran is made of. A great source is Craig Winns book "the Prophet of Doom, Islam's terrorist dogma in muhammad's own words."

Only problem is it will make you sick to your stomach to read the horrible history of Islam. You will learn to distrust anyone who claims to be a Muslim, for this is their teachings, and the history of the Man they call holy, a pervert, torturer that made himself rich plundering the Arabic culture and the entire eastern world. He made a religion that excused murder, theft and rape as a holy thing as long as he got a piece of the action. Needless to say it spread like wildfire. Now you did not have to feel guilty, you could be as barbaric as you can imagine and be praised for it.

ANYONE who claims to be a Muslim is a threat to society, or too foolish to read his own "Holy Books" and understand what Islam really means.

Read it for yourself, Prophet of Doom

From the Author:
There is but one Islam, a singular correct view of Muhammad, his religion, and his god. It is the one found in the Qur’an and Hadith. There is no independent record of Muhammad in history from which a variant view may be drawn. The Hadith and Qur’an are the sole repository of information on this man, his times, means, and mission. The Muhammad of Islam, the god of Islam, and the religion of Islam must be as these sources present them. Prophet of Doom is dedicated to exposing Islam’s scriptures and what Muhammad had to say about himself, his ambition, religion, and god.

Islam rises and falls on Muhammad. He is the doctrine’s sole prophet, its lone founder, its god’s singular conduit. Yet the picture the Islamic scriptures paint is not flattering. I analyzed the five most holy Islamic books and spent two years studying Muhammad and his message. What I found was bone chilling. The depiction of the prophet by the most revered Muslim sources is horrendous. Nearly every page reveals behavior that is immoral, criminal, and violent. The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don’t portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They reveal that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained sexual pervert engaged in pedophilia, incest, and rape. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide. He was a pirate, not a prophet. According to the Hadith and the Qur’an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity. And by putting the Qur’an in chronological order and correlating it with the context of Muhammad’s life as it was reported in the Sira, Sunnah and Hadith, we also find that Allah mirrored his prophet’s character. Muhammad’s god condoned immoral and criminal behavior. Allah boasts about being a terrorist. He claims to have deceived men, to have stolen their property, to have enslaved women and children, to having committed acts of murder, genocide, and sadistic tortures... (more on site)

41 posted on 08/20/2004 6:12:05 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia

By the way, I wanted that post to go to nuconvert not you. No offense intended to you. But the nuconvert to Islam? he needs to get a clue and Quick. He is being played for a fool by the best brainwashers in history.


42 posted on 08/20/2004 6:13:41 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: nuconvert
Read post 40 cause that one is for you to ponder.
43 posted on 08/20/2004 6:15:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia
I get a little fiery with Muslims because I live with a million and a half of the full blooded version of them. In Israel they are "out of the closet" because they have the required percentage of immigrants to make war. The are the most dangerous people on earth, and slaughter innocents over here all the time. They celebrate their blood lust in parades and whine like little girls to the Media when any of them get caught. They are currently in full invasion mode in America and most of the US is asleep at the switch. These immigrants do not want jobs, they want your head on a pike.

There is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, only one that does not understand Islam, yet. There is NO moderation in the Qu'ran, it clearly denounces any form of moderation in murder, conquest and looting.

It is written to slowly indoctrinate the foolish from morality to murder, one slimy concept at a time. It teaches group-think, do not question your Imam, just do as he says, 1.5 Billion mass murderers cannot be wrong. Who are you to question the morality of rape and torture when the Imam says it is good?!

It is insanity, in book form, written to raise an army of rabble to destroy Mankind. It declares war on all infidels, first the ones that are not Islamic, then the ones that are, but a different flavor of Islam than you. In the end, it will destroy all Humankind from the face of the earth if given free reign.

Just like Charlie Manson was put in prison to protect society, so should all Muslims, for they are of the same God. Any "religion" that teaches world conquest by force of arms and murder is not a religion, it is a brainwashed death cult.

God does not need men to kill other men to strengthen Him or to show their devotion. Satan however does.

You would think they would get a clue.
44 posted on 08/20/2004 6:31:45 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

I've been reading everything I can on Islam. I honestly didn't know much about it before the fall of 2001.

My problem is, I can't tell what is fact, opinion, deliberate propaganda, or a media campaign.

AND Islam likes it that way, hence Al Taqqya (the art of confusion for war).

One of the latest articles pulled from Osama Bin Laden's computers is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192738/posts

From their own computers, one of the points of 9/11 was to try to unite the Muslims in the cause. So if they didn't all believe, 'go blow yourself up for Allah', then they would need to be united, no?

Another point from the files was this:
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"Conducting a media campaign to fight the enemy's publicity. The campaign should focus on the following important points:

Attempt to cause a rift between the American people and their government, by demonstrating the following to the Americans:

That the US Government will lead them into further losses of money and lives. " Yada yada...
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So if part of the war plans was propaganda and media campaign, it would be to the terrorists benefits to have the world turn their backs on 'moderate muslims'. That helps the terrorists further with their cause. Cuts off the allies.

I am just very confused about what is propaganda, moderate, extremist, etc. And Islam and Arabs like to keep it that way, confusing.

I seize every opportunity I can to pick anyone's brain on this.

Thanks for all the input AII


45 posted on 08/20/2004 6:40:01 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: weegee
This from an interesting site:

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I read an article recently in which a university professor disclosed how the Saudis are bribing academics, journalists and politicians to spew propaganda on behalf of the Kingdom and ridicule its critics. This week the Fahd dictators are launching a radio and tv campaign designed to deceive Americans into believing that they are our friend.

So that you know the truth, consider these words from the Fahd tyrant’s favorite imam, al Buraik. Prior to a telethon hosted by the Saudi “Royal Family” to enrich the parents of suicide bombers, this most senior Islamic cleric said: “I am against America. She is the root of all evils and wickedness on earth. Muslims, don’t take Jews and Christians as allies. Muslim brothers, do not have any mercy or compassion on them, their blood, their money, or their flesh. Their women are yours to take, legitimately. Allah made them yours. Why don’t you enslave their women? Why don’t you wage jihad? Why don’t you pillage them?”

Do you suppose the Saudi Fahd thugs will feature these words, spoken by the highest ranking Islamic cleric in their Kingdom, the man whose salary they pay, in their American commercials? No, they will lie instead. But just so that you know that the cleric was not corrupting Islam, consider these harsh words directly from the Qur’an and Hadith. It’s Allah who commands Muslims not to befriend Christians and Jews, for he wants them killed so he can use their bodies to stoke hell’s fires. Qur’an 5:51 “O believers, do not hold Jews and Christians as your allies. They are allies of one another; and anyone who makes them his friends is one of them.” Qur’an 2:10 “As for those who deny Islam...they shall be the faggots for the Fire of Hell.”

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The Muslims are not here to immigrate, they are here to destroy America. By their own teachings this is shown to be so. For a Muslim to claim to be "Moderate" he must disclaim his own Qu'ran and thereby become Moderate by NOT BEING A MOSLEM.

Islam is the enemy, and is a religion of death and destruction. The peace it offers is the peace of the graveyard, nothing else is allowed by Allah or Muhammed in the Qu'ran.

I repeat and have proven by thier own words, There is NO SUCH THING as a MODERATE MUSLIM.

46 posted on 08/20/2004 6:46:23 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Calpernia

I will tell you, before living in Israel I was of like mind with you, I looked into Islam a bit here and there. But after having to play bus roulette just to get to work, and seeing them dance in the streets at 911 I got a whole lot more interested.

But reading the Qu'ran and the other books of Islam is a lot like taking a bath in a sewer. It really stinks and leaves you feeling icky. These people are insane. They have allowed themselves to believe a lie so that their excesses could be excused. Once you are willing to let go the truth to embrace a lie it is not a gradual thing, you are clinicly insane from that point on. It is a lot like parachuting, once you let go of the wing it is all downhill from there.

If you ever are willing to believe a lie over the truth in your heart, how will you ever have the strength to go back? It is a one way street, that 1.5 Billion people have taken. Can you imagine, about a quarter of the earth are criminaly insane at this point.

A very scary thing. Mass killing is in the future, either by war to defend ourselves, or by surrender to allow those who refuse to be "politicaly correct" and embrace the "common good of mankind to just get along" to be killed by beheading.

Better to fight this war now, than pretend it is not happening by saying stupid things like "Islam is a religion of Peace". It simply is not, and no ammount of sucking up to the Saudi's can make it so.


47 posted on 08/20/2004 6:59:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Guillermo

Well said my friend. O.J was framed
with all that planted evidence right? Check this out, Commit A Murder? Want To Get Away With the Crime?" Just Dial 1-800-OJ-B-Free!! Mastercards and visas, are accepted.


48 posted on 08/20/2004 7:03:56 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic")
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To: coconutt2000
So a few terrorist in our midst is OK?
49 posted on 08/20/2004 7:08:05 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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To: American in Israel

>>>They have allowed themselves to believe a lie so that their excesses could be excused. Once you are willing to let go the truth to embrace a lie it is not a gradual thing, you are clinicly insane from that point on. It is a lot like parachuting, once you let go of the wing it is all downhill from there.

That does coincide with the book I read, The Arab Mind.

But see, the Muslims in 'Palestine' were raised brain washed with fairy tales of an Israeli take over of their land. They are not a good cross section for comparison.

What about the ones that have left the Middle East? And say, came here. They left the regime cause they didn't believe and want their children raised in a lying dictatorship.

My family were sharecroppers in a Don owned village in Italy. They were able to escape and come here to America. My family is not slave owning dictators. They left to get away from that.

So couldn't there be Moderate Muslims? The ones that left?


50 posted on 08/20/2004 7:09:44 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: null and void

A few terrorists in our midst is inevitable, and rigorous law enforcement will keep them from becoming dangerous.

You have to understand that extremists of all types pop up in our society all the time, but we almost always manage to nab them before they do something horrendous.

Extremism is not monopoloized by Islam.

So, as long as we focus on keeping foreign militants out of our country, and search and arrest the few home grown ones that will pop up from time to tme, we'll be able to avoid the general mayhem that we see in the Middle East. But by not addressing the issue that produces foreign militants and targets them against us, it would be a losing battle to remain within our borders and not deal with that source.

Think about it.


51 posted on 08/20/2004 7:15:33 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: coconutt2000

I have.

Nits make lice.

The best place to stop terrorism is before it starts, and fight it at every level as it attemps to grow.


52 posted on 08/20/2004 7:17:37 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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To: Calpernia
So couldn't there be Moderate Muslims? The ones that left?

I used to think that, until an American born møøselimb strenuously objected to my putting a US Flag and "God Bless America" in my cubical.

On 9/11...

53 posted on 08/20/2004 7:23:31 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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To: river rat

Yes Sir, thats what I'm talking about.


54 posted on 08/20/2004 7:28:25 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways)
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To: null and void

I've seen that too. I have also been in mosques for business meetings. I had to cover my head, remove my shoes, and only speak if spoken to. Very hard to interact in a business meeting in that fashion.

And the lack of interactive conversation from muslims on this topic DOESN'T HELP.

If it wasn't for all the stories I was told from my family about growing up in a regime....I don't think I would be this patient on waiting for answers. Especially since I had family in the towers and have been to ground zero during clean up.


55 posted on 08/20/2004 7:33:19 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Calpernia
Especially since I had family in the towers and have been to ground zero during clean up.

Was this not enough to give you clarity?

56 posted on 08/20/2004 7:38:18 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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To: null and void

That would be the same as condeming my family for what the feudal lords did to the peasants.

My family was the peasants. The feudal lords were the equivalent of the Saddams and OBLs of today.


57 posted on 08/20/2004 8:00:22 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Calpernia
Perhaps. My experience says that their peasants are different from our peasants.

Their peasants support their feudal lords, kiss the chains that hold them, and want to kill or shackle the rest of us.

Our peasants want freedom for all.

It's a big difference, not just in degree, but in kind.
58 posted on 08/20/2004 8:06:28 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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To: null and void

What about the peasants that come here. Are they 'Moderates'?

Becomes a nasty circle, huh?


59 posted on 08/20/2004 8:11:00 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Calpernia
Indeed. We cannot see into their souls. Some come here to escape their slavery, some to impose it on us.

By offering an escape valve for those who want a better life, we take the pressure off their slave/death cult societies, and help keep them in existence.

Ironic.
60 posted on 08/20/2004 8:16:29 AM PDT by null and void (We're trying to acheive liberal goals by conservative means - Karl Rove, KSFO 8/18/04)
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