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FBI Expects Violence at GOP Convention
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/18/04 | Ted Bridis - AP

Posted on 08/18/2004 3:09:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The FBI (news - web sites) anticipates violent protests at the upcoming Republican National Convention in New York but does not have enough evidence to move against any group or person, the bureau's top terrorism official said Wednesday.

New York officials have said they expect hundreds of thousands of people to stage demonstrations around the convention, which begins Aug. 30.

Concern over the convention comes amid heightened security across New York over fears that foreign terrorists might strike the city again. New York remains on a "high" terrorism alert level, while most of the country is on elevated alert.

Federal investigators have infiltrated some organizations and are monitoring plans for protests being published on the Internet. The FBI also interviewed some protesters around the country before last month's Democratic convention in Boston and in anticipation of the GOP convention.

"We don't have any specific plot where we have all the variables we need to go out and take pre-emptive and judicial action," said Gary Bald, assistant director of the FBI's counterterrorism division.

The FBI has noted that some activist Web sites critical of Republicans and the convention include links to a site that lists Molotov cocktails, slingshots and bolt cutters as appropriate "offensive weapons" to carry during protests.

Three Democratic lawmakers on the House Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) have criticized the FBI's interviews of protesters around the country. They asked the Justice Department (news - web sites)'s inspector general to investigate what they called "possible violations of First Amendment free speech and assembly rights."

The committee's ranking Democrat, Michigan's John Conyers, along with Reps. Robert C. "Bobby" Scott of Virginia and Jerrold Nadler of New York, said in a letter that the FBI "appears to be engaged in systematic political harassment and intimidation of legitimate anti-war protesters."

Bald, speaking with about 20 reporters at the bureau's headquarters, said FBI agents have interviewed only protesters they believed were plotting to firebomb media vehicles at the conventions or might have known about such plots. All these investigations are being treated as terrorism cases, Bald said.

"I've got more than enough to keep my people busy than to worry about if a protester is pro or con on some issue," Bald said. He called it "critically important that citizens have the ability to exercise their First Amendment rights."

Bald added, "We don't monitor rallies; we don't monitor people at rallies." But the FBI will open an investigation if it learns from tips, informants or other methods that protesters are planning to commit violent acts, Bald said.

The warning of a possible attack against media trucks, disclosed days before the Democratic convention, was based on claims by an informant who described an alleged plot by self-described anarchists in the Midwest to throw Molotov cocktails at television vans, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

Mark Silverstein, the Colorado legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites), said he was "very skeptical of the FBI's claim." The ACLU, which was contacted by some of the protesters who were interviewed by the FBI, said agents never asked directly about such an alleged plot.

Meanwhile, in New York, an anti-war group planning a massive demonstration the day before the GOP convention asked a judge Wednesday to overrule city officials and let protesters gather in Central Park. Lawyers for United for Peace and Justice argued that the city's denial violates the state constitution.

City officials had said the expected crowd at the Aug. 29 rally, which could exceed 250,000 people, would damage the grass.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: convention; expects; fbi; gop; lefties; newyorkcity; rncconvention; violence
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To: cake_crumb

"FR might get hit."

Count on it.


41 posted on 08/18/2004 3:37:14 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Agree. For a history lesson the DemonRats should review how successful their protests were during the conventions of '68.

Indeed. Not that I care if they drag their own party down, but I'd hate to see people get hurt in the process.

42 posted on 08/18/2004 3:40:00 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: boxerblues
"Looks like any web site they deem as pro Bush will get a DOS"

Yep.

43 posted on 08/18/2004 3:43:54 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ahh....note to self. Bring tape for my hands in case I have to defend myself. (Note to FBI lurkers - I won't start trouble....my former FBI congressman would kick my ass if I did.)


44 posted on 08/18/2004 3:48:02 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: telebob
"'McCarthyite' "

you should have told him that you never, ever would have supported Gene McCarthy!....lol

45 posted on 08/18/2004 3:51:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Riley

I, too have always been a Democrat. In the aftermath of 9/11 I am one no longer, hence my chosen nick.


46 posted on 08/18/2004 3:52:35 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (W.W.P.D.? - What Would Patton Do?)
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To: Bald Eagle777
"I am concerned no so much at the loony protesters, rather that they create additional crowd conditions, pandemonium, havoc, chaos, noise (the list goes on and on), which will make it much, much easier for an Al Qaeda team (or teams) to use the unruly environment to gain operational mobility and set off bombs etc, undetected."

Me too. Add their intentions of disrupting the city to the terror threats, targets that have been cased and the fact that the pan Arabists have come out in favor of John Kerry today. The al Qaeda types will just blend in with the REST of the Kerry supporters.

47 posted on 08/18/2004 3:53:31 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Riley

No doubt the professional protesters last seen in Seattle will be present again. The FBI surely knows that this little group of organized anarchists [sic] is going to be trying to do as much damage as it can, again.


48 posted on 08/18/2004 3:54:51 PM PDT by Melas
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To: NormsRevenge

We allow the leftists to push security around our President. But the protestors at the RAT convention were firmly quashed to a distant compound. There is some PC logic for you.


49 posted on 08/18/2004 3:55:31 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

But the Republicans won in '68.


50 posted on 08/18/2004 3:55:33 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: wtc911

***Sad to say the lawn areas in CP have become a symbol of the "image is everything" governance of NYC (speficically Manhattan) that started under Rudy.***

So what are you saying? That they should allow 250,000 protesters to occupy Central Park?


51 posted on 08/18/2004 3:56:17 PM PDT by kitkat (Vote BUSH the PROVEN leader)
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To: kitkat
***Sad to say the lawn areas in CP have become a symbol of the "image is everything" governance of NYC (speficically Manhattan) that started under Rudy.*** So what are you saying? That they should allow 250,000 protesters to occupy Central Park?

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No, I am giving a recent history of the city's view toward CP for the 97% of freepers who do not know it. You may of course twist it any way that suits you.

52 posted on 08/18/2004 3:58:59 PM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Is that the x26 taser?


53 posted on 08/18/2004 3:59:41 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: glock rocks
Mr. Nadler will be on the front lines

Be assured that Nadler, with a girth that makes M. Moore look like an Olympic swimmer, just by virtue of his size would be on the front line, especially the front of the line at hot dog stands.

54 posted on 08/18/2004 4:01:45 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Argus; Steve_Seattle; Mr. Mojo
...the leftists/anarchists want to replicate Chicago '68 in the streets of Manhattan...

I hope they do. Watched the '68 Chicago convention on TV... very entertaining - the Chicago police didn't screw around with them - billyclubbed the hell out of a lot of them prior to their arrest. Never been a Cubbie, Sox, Bull or Bear fan, but I sure did root for those Chi-Cops!! BRING IT ON!!
55 posted on 08/18/2004 4:05:10 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We don't have any specific plot where we have all the variables we need to go out and take pre-emptive and judicial action . . . "

A reasonable society would arrest any high-level moles who provide tangible or intangible support, cover or assistance that facilitates such violence. In this case, Conyers, Scott and Nadler. We're at war, @&%*$%!

56 posted on 08/18/2004 4:07:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: badgerlandjim
"I hope they do. Watched the '68 Chicago convention on TV... very entertaining - the Chicago police didn't screw around with them - billyclubbed the hell out of a lot of them prior to their arrest. Never been a Cubbie, Sox, Bull or Bear fan, but I sure did root for those Chi-Cops!! BRING IT ON!!"

This is 2004 NYC under Bloomie. The terrorists will be fine as long as they don't light a cigarette.

57 posted on 08/18/2004 4:08:57 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: NormsRevenge

People like George Soros who fund these protesters, are the "internationalists" who don't want to see America led by a courageous and determined man like GW...they would rather go with the status quo and appease terrorists with other people's money. They scream about a wealthy man from Texas helping the Fast Boat Vets get their book published but take money from a hate monger like George Soros and want a playboy who will do nothing, to lead the country. Hanoi, the al Qeada, the Arabs and the United Nations love John Kerry – the non-American, he will leave them alone and the United States to rot in Socialism. Lock ‘em up and throw away the key!


58 posted on 08/18/2004 4:16:00 PM PDT by yoe (When is a wound not a wound? When you are wound up in self-serving, self-aggrandizing efforts.....)
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To: cake_crumb
This is 2004 NYC under Bloomie. The terrorists will be fine as long as they don't light a cigarette.

LOL. You may be right. Damn. No wonder I pine for the good old days...
59 posted on 08/18/2004 4:17:02 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: dawn53

I've been reading the DU and other lib board posts too. There are plenty of them that are just so burning with hatred they are going out with a bang. They've sat around boiling mad since the 2000 election and they perceive the RNC as their one chance to act out against the "selected pResident" and the "corporate war machine". You bet they'll be out and they are planning to get mean and get arrested. They post things like "take pictures of the pigs beating people then drop the film, addressed to yourself in the mailbox, so when you get arrested and they confiscate your camera, it'll be there waiting for you." Lovely bunch.


60 posted on 08/18/2004 4:25:57 PM PDT by Sender (my tagline is down for routine system maintenance)
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