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Presidential race continues to be a nip and tuck affair (Bush 46% - Kerry 43%)
Jacksonville.com/Times-Union ^ | 8-18-04 | Matt Towery

Posted on 08/18/2004 7:12:05 AM PDT by veronica

The good news for the Bush campaign is that the incumbent has retaken the lead in the presidential contest in our most recent InsiderAdvantage poll. On the other hand, perhaps not so good news, as just a confirmation of its insignificance in this year's elections, is that there is no such thing as a "NASCAR dad."

The latest InsiderAdvantage survey of the presidential race asks: If the presidential election were held today, would you vote for?

George W. Bush, 46 percent; John Kerry, 43 percent; Ralph Nader, 1 percent; someone else, 2 percent; don't know/undecided -- 8 percent. The poll of 500 registered voters was conducted Aug. 13-14 and has been weighted by age, race, gender and party affiliation. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percent. It was conducted with our research associates, The Marketing Workshop.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kewl; nascardads; polls

1 posted on 08/18/2004 7:12:06 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

Well this good news. Juts wondering, has Anyone ever herad of this polling group before?


2 posted on 08/18/2004 7:15:11 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

I am a little unclear. Is this the whole US or just FL? In either case, it is a bit of good news. Let's hope GWB keeps up the momentum.


3 posted on 08/18/2004 7:19:23 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: veronica

Bad article, it's not clear of its a national or a Florida poll. I think its a national poll in which case a 500 registered voter survey is pretty useless.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 7:19:45 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: veronica

Is anyone else as tired of polls as I am...national or state?


5 posted on 08/18/2004 7:23:48 AM PDT by tsmith130 (Making one's enemies suffer is currently an under-valued activity.)
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To: veronica
I am pretty sure it is a FL poll because it makes an analogy to Jeb's race in 02. It is frustrtaing that they never say for sure though.

Either way, it is great news. In the end, I think FL narrowly stays in W's camp this year -- especially if Martinez is the Senate candidate.

6 posted on 08/18/2004 7:25:15 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: veronica

I think the only nips and tucks are coming out of Kerry's poll numbers....


7 posted on 08/18/2004 7:28:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Truth : Liberal as Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: TNCMAXQ

I just read the article and I think a poll pertaining to Florida, I mentioned the effects Jeb Bush had on the female vote, and mentioned the popularity of "NASCAR DADS"? (Floridian term) in the south,(Its a Jacksonville paper, which is in the north and it refers to racing in "the south") I thing it's a matter of syntax, possible colloquial presumpostition, and Ya know it's a poorly written article when you have to perform a hermenutical analysis, and textual over view to understand it.


8 posted on 08/18/2004 7:34:17 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: veronica
Bush has the momentum going into the final 2 months, just when people are paying attention.

The wheels are comiong off the Kerry campaign and he'll never right his sinking ship in the final months.

Prediction: BUSH LANDSLIDE, MEDIA DUMBFOUNDED.

9 posted on 08/18/2004 7:35:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: comebacknewt

I went to the the website and it seems that Matt Towery is the chairman and CEO of Insider Advantage.com. His site has done many polls during the last year and they have all been National Polls. Towery writes an article for the Florida Times- Union each Wednesday.


10 posted on 08/18/2004 7:36:48 AM PDT by GOP
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To: veronica
Here's a question: In the last number of presidential polls, have the Republicans ever done as poorly as the pools were saying they would, and have the Dems ever done as well? Strictly from my memory, what I seem to recall is that the Pubbies usually finish several points up from where they were roughly projected, and the Dems several down...
11 posted on 08/18/2004 7:51:26 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: atomicpossum
In the last number of presidential polls

Whoops, that should be 'presidential elections...'

12 posted on 08/18/2004 7:53:59 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: atomicpossum

Interesting point. I think in some elections we have seen Republicans doing better than expected, or better than had been projected in summer. In '76 President Ford nearly overcame a 30-plus point deficit and lost to Carter by only 2.

In '88 VP Bush came from way behind to win, though at one point he was even further ahead of Dukakis according to one poll, then his 7 point winning margin.

As president, Bush was as much as 24 points behind Clinton in '92 but lost by only 6. And in '96 as I recall one poll had Bob Dole down by 15, and he lost by only 8.

Granted this is not a great record. But by contrast, GWB does not have as much ground to make up. If he can outshine Kerry in those debates, he can still win.


13 posted on 08/18/2004 8:02:13 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: atomicpossum
I recently took a look at how the RAT candidates have performed from the time after their convention up to the election over the last 24 years. I used the Gallup poll to measure their post convention support and compared that tho their actual election showing.

In all but one case, the RATs performed worse on election day than their post-convention numbers. The average loss was about seven points. The lone exception was AlGore last time who improved on his Gallup number by 1 whole point.

I really feel that we are now seeing JFnK's high-water mark. If he still holds a slight lead after the GOP convention, and after the 9/11 anniversary, then I'll be very worried. History, however, suggests that he is likely to see quite a bit of his support erode before election day.

14 posted on 08/18/2004 8:07:09 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: comebacknewt

Get your heads out of the sand people!!!! Sorry just channeling Courage there for a second


15 posted on 08/18/2004 9:26:00 AM PDT by skaterboy
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To: atomicpossum
In 1996, every poll except Zogby was off in Clinton's direction by 2-8%. Every one.

In 2000, five were off in Bush's favor (by 1-3%) and six were off in Gore's favor (by the same variance).

In 2002, virtually all the polls missed the close elections in Missouri, Minnesota, and Georgia, plus, I think, Sunnun's gubernatorial victory. All were off in favor of the Dems.

16 posted on 08/18/2004 9:43:30 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Dales

Florida poll...I think


17 posted on 08/18/2004 10:34:16 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Dales

Did you see this poll. Is it a FL statewide poll or a North Florida poll?


18 posted on 08/18/2004 9:57:06 PM PDT by JLS
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