Posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:07 AM PDT by white trash redneck
A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council says American Jews will still vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, despite US President George W. Bush's policies toward Israel, which have been widely praised by the Jewish community.
The poll, released on Monday, said American Jews preferred Kerry to Bush by a 75 to 22 percent margin. The survey of 817 likely Jewish voters was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research between July 26 and 28, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.
Respondents said in 2000 they had voted for Vice President Al Gore over Bush by a similar margin of 76 to 21 percent.
Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote, and Bush 19 percent.
"The White House and (President Bush's political adviser) Karl Rove in particular have expended a lot of resources on this Jewish vote. Just like with Hispanics, they've come up with zero," said Ira Forman, executive director of NJDC.
Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a rival group, discounted the survey's results since the poll was taken during the Democratic Convention in Boston.
"I discount these findings because this poll was taken right in the middle of the Democratic Convention, right in the middle of a massive deluge of Kerry press coverage," Brooks said.
"We stand firmly committed to the notion that President Bush will do substantially better among Jewish voters than he did in 2000," Brooks added.
Another survey of American Jewish opinion in January found that 31 percent of Jews would support Bush when matched with Kerry, who was not yet the nominee at the time.
The new NJDC survey said 66 percent found Kerry to be better on the issue of Israel, while 34 percent found Bush to be. Only 23 percent of respondents felt the country was moving in the right direction, while 77 percent said it was on the wrong track. Twenty-five percent approved strongly or somewhat of the way Bush is handling his job as president, while 75 percent disapproved strongly or somewhat.
A new national Zogby survey released Monday showed Kerry ahead of Bush 47 to 43 percent. Without Independent Ralph Nader and other candidates the lead stretched to 50 to 43 percent.
"Yes because we rule Hollywood!"
- As Tonto once said to the Lone Ranger: What you mean "we" whiteman?
Jews are inproportionately in the power seats of media, govt and industry and finance...
they are not more talented or smarter, but they are ruthless and the Jews help one another go up the ladder....why else would the likes of Barbara Streisand make it big?......white and Christian women have to be stunningly beautiful to make it in show business....
folks...I don't want to sit around for the next 4 to 8 yrs like we did with Clintoon....
we conservative patriots had better get moving...
I just hope that the smart people at the top get it going as well....
up to this week, I was pretty positive that Bush would be re-elected....but now I am not so sure.....
that is a bit over the top to say the least.
many jews are about what they percieve as limiting the power of one group with too much power to harm them since they are exclusive by culture/religion/identity
sadly, they have hitched their wagon to the wrong horse....again. Institutionalized anti-pluralism has it's drawbacks.
A great movie on this metaphorical minefield a Jewish family in Hungary lived through in the 1900s is called Sonnenschein....you should see it and loosen up a bit.
We have a number of brave Jewish Freepers here and while I hate granting special status for folks for what they are. They deserve it because it is harder to buck trends in one's family and community and we should be a hair careful about what we say (one could say exactly that about black freepers too)
Anyhow...I hate preaching but..well, you ought to rethink what you blurted. I mean..it's so easy for me to be a redneck Freeper..lol
To push Christianity underground and out of its sphere of influence is to doom it, I believe that Christian influence is necessary for the well being of Jews. You needed to fragmentize the debate so as to take context out of my line of reasoning. This allows you to create a refuge where you can play dumb with the matter. You realized that you yourself were very close to proving my contention.
The truth is painful for you to admit. When a Jew hears "most Jews" he will become instinctively defensive on behalf of the group because he knows by history that he needs to protect the group. I understand why you feel the need to do it.
It is my belief that the truth is best faced up to. Snip to your heart's content.
Not all of them, especially outside of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and NY(where it's more traditional to be dem).
"Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote, and Bush 19 percent."
And, Bush STILL won.....Next?
Cherry,
uh....Babs made it cause of her pipes I reckon....maybe the casting couch but I kinda doubt it.
You've got a Jewish paranoia thing going...I'd try to relax.
I hear younger Jews are moving our way in droves.
Liberal Jews in Hollywood and the Media rankle me too...hell I'm a Southern WASP...their fav target to purloin besides South Africans and Germans but....a huge but.
I can't blame all Jews for the Harvey Weinsteins or Richard Kaplans of the world...it's simply unfair and that sort of thinking has a rather sordid history.
People following true Judaism would be against abortion...
true ethnic Jews it seems to me would be for everything that would defend and support a Jewish homeland and Jews everywhere in the world....
THE ONLY REASON I CAN SEE WHY AMERICAN JEWS VOTE THE WAY THEY DO IS THAT THEY PURSUE MONEY ISSUES ABOVE ALL ELSE....THEY DO NOT DEFEND OTHER JEWS, THEY DO NOT DEFEND THEIR RELIGION AND THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT DEFEND ISRAEL.......
the top 5 contributors against President Bush in the 527's are all Jews.....you explain that please!
NY, IL and CA are already firmly in the "blue states" column, with or without a large turnout among Jewish voters.
I feel the same way.
I wonder how it's worth trying to do good and promote the truth in politics when you read things like the Jews betraying those most committed to their well being and total lying frauds like Kerry winning elections.
It's sickening and I just want to give up and leave people to their own devices and self deceit.
I sure hope someone is saving this thread for posterity. Quite eye-opening.
Indeed but in a tight race, the Jewish vote matters a lot...just watch PA and FL in November. The polling trends are that the Jewish vote is going to be pretty close to last time for the Left.
Which surprises me....I woulda thought W's support of Israel and willingness to take the fight to the Moon-Rockers versus Kerry's "sensitive" (lol) approach might have drained off a comparable number to when McGovern lost a nice chunk of the J-vote.
Maybe the polls are wrong.
Bovine Scat. Read your own tagline. Baseless assertions masquerading as "fact" remain nothing more than opinion. This does not constitute evidence, no matter how many times you repeat it. You have made an assertion: "most Jews wish doom upon Christianity". The statement is there for all to see. Prove it, or retract it. Further discussion is fruitless, because I'm not going to stipulate to your false assertions.
The truth is painful for you to admit.
What "truth"? I haven't seen any yet, only your unsubstantiated opinion.
It is my belief that the truth is best faced up to.
Okay. You are a liar. Face up to it.
Keep posting. You reveal more and more about yourself the more you do.
Don't feel bad.
Quidnuic (sic) ran a thread a few months back espousing that Culture War Southerners like me were alleged to be NeoConfederates and were the new inheritors of the Hitlerian legacy.
And the AMs let the thread stand while the South Bashers masturbated.
Make your case.
As I said to a different poster earlier, this is a Democrat poll, taken during the convention, when Kerry's numbers would be expected to peak. 75% is the best Kerry can do, in a friendly poll? That's not as good as Algore did on election day. For Kerry, the numbers can only go down from there. I'm expecting 30-35% to go for Bush, and a majority of those under 35. Jewish Republicans are predominantly younger voters. And after four years, the number of elderly Jewish Democrats in Palm Beach County is bound to have been reduced by attrition. ;o)
I absolutely cannot believe this. The democrats have made it politically correct to hate Jews. I just can't believe this.
Heheheh...
The sad thing is, this only plays into the stereotypes about Republicans.
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