Posted on 08/17/2004 10:26:07 AM PDT by white trash redneck
A new poll commissioned by the National Jewish Democratic Council says American Jews will still vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, despite US President George W. Bush's policies toward Israel, which have been widely praised by the Jewish community.
The poll, released on Monday, said American Jews preferred Kerry to Bush by a 75 to 22 percent margin. The survey of 817 likely Jewish voters was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research between July 26 and 28, and has a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.
Respondents said in 2000 they had voted for Vice President Al Gore over Bush by a similar margin of 76 to 21 percent.
Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote, and Bush 19 percent.
"The White House and (President Bush's political adviser) Karl Rove in particular have expended a lot of resources on this Jewish vote. Just like with Hispanics, they've come up with zero," said Ira Forman, executive director of NJDC.
Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a rival group, discounted the survey's results since the poll was taken during the Democratic Convention in Boston.
"I discount these findings because this poll was taken right in the middle of the Democratic Convention, right in the middle of a massive deluge of Kerry press coverage," Brooks said.
"We stand firmly committed to the notion that President Bush will do substantially better among Jewish voters than he did in 2000," Brooks added.
Another survey of American Jewish opinion in January found that 31 percent of Jews would support Bush when matched with Kerry, who was not yet the nominee at the time.
The new NJDC survey said 66 percent found Kerry to be better on the issue of Israel, while 34 percent found Bush to be. Only 23 percent of respondents felt the country was moving in the right direction, while 77 percent said it was on the wrong track. Twenty-five percent approved strongly or somewhat of the way Bush is handling his job as president, while 75 percent disapproved strongly or somewhat.
A new national Zogby survey released Monday showed Kerry ahead of Bush 47 to 43 percent. Without Independent Ralph Nader and other candidates the lead stretched to 50 to 43 percent.
Yes or no: Would you agree that those who were furious with Mel Gibson for making "The Passion of the Christ" are hostile to Christianity?
In reality they voted straight-ticket Democrat to support Hilary Clinton.
The fact is, American Jews have a Democrat problem and admitting it is the first step to recovery.
You don't understand.
Jews are brilliant at every form of human endeavor - science, law, medicine, business, the arts, engineering, academia, whatever - except politics.
I hope so because I am quite concerned about a Kerry presidency. Israel will be totally screwed with that fraud Kerry in office.
Until this year Kerry has always been nothing more than a fraternity boy in an exclusive club. If that spineless phoney sleazebag were put into the White House it would change the entire paradigm, and not for the good.
You have falsely accused me of accusing you and Jewish FReepers as having malice upon Christians. You cannot demonstrate where I have done this.
"Over 50% of Jews under 30 voted for Bush in 2000"
They voted for Hillary in order to get their guy out of jail. I have no idea if they voted straight-ticket or split-ticket.
Anyway, Hillary won by a much wider margin than 1200 voted (which is what she got from New Square).
A footnote in history: What Head of State was the most frequent visitor to the Clinton White House? Answer: Yassir Arafat
Yes and no. :o)
Some of that group are hostile to Christianity. Some are simply fearful.
I would agree that there is a subset of Jews who are hostile to Christianity. I have never seen any evidence, though, to suggest that this group is anything other than a pretty small minority.
I am just about to come to the conclusion that the Amerikan people need to elect Kerry, just so they can see how good they have had it for the past four years.
Check that, they are to stupid to realize how good it has been.
I understand their motivation. And I know that they did not put Hilary over the top.
The point is that too many Jewish Americans, like too many Irish Americans and Italian Americans, still permit patronage to trump principle in their voting patterns.
Here is what you said in your first post on this thread:
It is ironic that if Christianity met the doom that most Jews wish for it
'Most' would imply some Jews on Fr too.
And Jim McGreevey.
They really are ostriches. One of my best friends in the world is Jewish and he's as down the line lib as they come.
Here are some figures to think about.
Christian
237,581,854 Total
86.20% of Population
118,790,927 50% of the vote to GWB
Baptist
49,611,060 Total
18% of Population
24,805,530 50% of the vote to GWB
Southern Baptist
15,800,000 Total
5.70% of Population
7,900,000 50% of the vote to GWB
Jewish
4,960,000 Total
1.80% of Population
3,720,000 75% of the vote to GWB
There, I did the math for you.
They're more devoted to globo-marxist socialism than their own ethnocentric culture.
These people are world socialists first, jews second, and Americans, last.
I am a bible believer and the bible says that in the end times many will be decieved in so much that if it were possible they shall decieve the very elect.
The bible says that those who are not born of the spirit are blinded by the devil.
This does not mean that all are blinded by the devil. When you mention christians voting for Kerry maybe they have a hard heart. Maybe they are just ignorant. Maybe they only claim to be christians. I do not claim to know all the reasons. I only know that good people who should know better are voting for their own destruction as the jews who vote for Kerry do.
I offer one explanation that comes from the bible. The words there are far wiser then any I can come up.
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