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The Death of Canadian Scouting
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 13 August 2004 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 08/15/2004 9:05:41 AM PDT by BraveMan

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To: Boss_Jim_Gettys

Well, yes, but that isn't a discrimination based on one's beliefs, is it?


21 posted on 08/15/2004 10:18:37 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: BraveMan
How sad. I was a Girl Scout (years before they sold out) but I contribute to the BSA yearly. They need all the help they can get to continue to hold out against the Christo/heterophobes.
22 posted on 08/15/2004 10:19:45 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Boss_Jim_Gettys

The left claims "it's for the kids" yet their actions, as stated in this article, have effectively deprived in excess of 300,000 kids of opportunities most would otherwise not have................


23 posted on 08/15/2004 10:19:48 AM PDT by DKM
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To: gcruse

"Are you really in favor of discriminating against kids based on religion?"

Are you really in favor of homosexual boy scout troops?


24 posted on 08/15/2004 10:20:13 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: nightdriver
ALL religions (including atheism) are "discriminatory" by definition.

So, the Boy Scouts is a religion, now.  This get weirder by the minute. 
25 posted on 08/15/2004 10:20:40 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
Right now everyone is just assuming that you are a liberal. How do u feel about I for one have already stated I think we should be allowed to choose, or "discriminate" who joins a private club regardless whether they are kids or adults.

But where do u stand? are u a conservative just trying to get us take a stand? a liberal asking this because you have a sneak agenda? a reporter maybe? Im just curious why you are asking everyone the same question, and what ur view is. U dont have to answer but i hope u do.
26 posted on 08/15/2004 10:21:55 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: jocon307

Are you really in favor of homosexual boy scout troops?


Homosexuality is a religion? We're discussing discrimination based on religion.
27 posted on 08/15/2004 10:22:51 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: BraveMan

This is just sad.

I've been involved in Scouting for three years. Den Leader and Asst. Cubmaster.

Boy Scouting USA is an impressive organization who so far has continued to resist with all strength the all out assault on our values.

See my tagline and see how I really feel.


28 posted on 08/15/2004 10:23:18 AM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: gcruse
No we are discussing discrimination, and when it's appropriate. His point is valid and your not the unofficial moderator of this thread.
29 posted on 08/15/2004 10:24:50 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: gcruse
"So, the Boy Scouts is a religion, now."

Incorrect, prejudicial inference.

30 posted on 08/15/2004 10:25:29 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
How do u feel about I for one have already stated I think we should be allowed to choose, or "discriminate" who joins a private club regardless whether they are kids or adults.

Good.  At least you can answer without going into defensive mode.  I think discriminating against kids based on religion is horrible.  But it is in fact a private outfit.  However, it should then be ineligible for any form of taxpayer support.  We all pay taxes, not just some believers.
31 posted on 08/15/2004 10:26:40 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
IOW, yes, you are in favor of discriminating against kids based on a religious test. Is it so hard to say it right out?

What's wrong with discriminating against kids based on a religious test? Synagogues don't allow non-Jews to belong to them and Catholic churches don't allow non-Catholics to be fully-communing members. Shoot, even the Masons require a belief in a Supreme Being, and as everyone knows, they're Secretly Behind Communism! ;-)

Are you saying it should be illegal for a private organization to set its own membership standards? Or do you only oppose discrimination based on religion and think it's fine and dandy alone any other lines?

Are you aware that religion is the proper arbiter of what is right and wrong and that non-religious people with morals, ethics, or ideals of any kind are parasitic hypocritical bags of sh*t?

32 posted on 08/15/2004 10:27:44 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok
No we are discussing discrimination, and when it's appropriate.

Not me.  I have been asking a question based solely on religion.
33 posted on 08/15/2004 10:28:00 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
Homosexuality is a religion?

In this day and age, it's sure starting to seem like it...
34 posted on 08/15/2004 10:28:34 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong.)
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To: nightdriver


Well, no. I asked if the BSA keeping kids out based on religion was discriminatory.

You responded --

"ALL religions (including atheism) are "discriminatory" by definition."

We weren't discussing whether religions were discriminatory, but whether the BSA is.


35 posted on 08/15/2004 10:30:24 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Are you saying it should be illegal for a private organization to set its own membership standards?

Not at all.  I just asked if you were in favor of religion being a condition of membership in a nonchurch.
36 posted on 08/15/2004 10:32:35 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
"Are you really in favor of discriminating against kids based on religion?"

Which religion is being discriminated against?

37 posted on 08/15/2004 10:33:52 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Kerry’s OTC Lt. Thomas W. Wright said, "three of us told him to leave.” He was VOTED OFF the island!)
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To: gcruse
Not at all. I just asked if you were in favor of religion being a condition of membership in a nonchurch.

Of course. Why should that be a problem?

I don't get what's bothering you. Maybe Knights of Columbus should open its membership to non-Catholics or American Atheists should open up its membership to the internally logically consistent?

38 posted on 08/15/2004 10:34:55 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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To: gcruse
On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
And to obey the Scout law.
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake,
and morally straight.

That oath still has meaning to some people. If you can't take it and mean it, don't join.

39 posted on 08/15/2004 10:35:13 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: gcruse

Why would a guy like you want to join the Gideons anyway?


40 posted on 08/15/2004 10:35:46 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What part of "lo yihyeh lekhah 'elohim 'acherim `al panay" DON'T you understand???)
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