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ABC News' Marc Ambinder reviews "Unfit for Command"
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| 08/11/04
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Posted on 08/11/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by Pikamax
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT
by
Pikamax
To: Pikamax
The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the charges, and the fact remains that even if Kerry was only lightly injured thrice, he was injured thrice, and he was injured in Vietnam while fighting for his country.A fine display of bias if I ever saw it. Getting wounded does not automatically equate to deserving a Purple Heart, but this alleged reporter couldn't be bothered to run down the facts.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:08:11 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
To: Pikamax
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Pages 45 through 49 focus on Cambodia, and that's about the only portion of the book that truly puzzles us and seems to puzzle the Kerry campaign. You make the call:"
Yer out!
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:09:19 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
To: Pikamax
Seems fairly balanced... for ABCnews that is
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:09:40 AM PDT
by
Betaille
("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
To: Pikamax
When is this book being released? It was supposed to be released on August 1st, then we were told by Borders this week, and then we heard on the news that it was being delayed until the middle of September. Does anyone REALLY know when it will be released?
To: G.Mason
"Pages 45 through 49 focus on Cambodia, and that's about the only portion of the book that truly puzzles us and seems to puzzle the Kerry campaign. You make the call:"Translation: We can't B.S. our way out of this one no matter how hard we tried. So we had to dredge up some old posts on FR to try and discredit the authors.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:12:31 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
To: dirtboy
I was going to use the same excerpt, but you beat me.
But notice: you use the word "wound" but the hack from ABC says "injured". Using his terminology, a bar fight in Saigon in which a sailor gets a bloody nose from a prostitute could be enough to win a purple heart: "I was injured in Vietnam."
As you say, the actual standard is a bit higher than that, and Kerry seems to have fallen short.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:12:55 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
To: Pikamax
I finished Ric Flair's book a few weeks ago. Its the best wrestling autobiography I've read yet. Of course, it probably helped that I'm a big fan of the Nature Boy. WHOOOOOO!
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:13:31 AM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: ClearCase_guy
Using his terminology, a bar fight in Saigon in which a sailor gets a bloody nose from a prostitute could be enough to win a purple heart: "I was injured in Vietnam." Or twisting your ankle running to get yourself in front of a camera.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:14:14 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
To: dirtboy
The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the charges, and the fact remains that even if Kerry was only lightly injured thrice, he was injured thrice, which happened to be the magic number for a trip home & out of harms way after serving only 4 months of his 12 month tour. An alternative ending.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:17:41 AM PDT
by
skeeter
To: dirtboy
A Vietnam veteran on Tony Snow's show tried to say that anyone injured received a Purple Heart. That it was automatic if you were injured, no matter how slightly or by whom. This is not true; otherwise, Max Cleland would have received one for his injuries.
Unfortunately, Tony isn't as up on the military requirements for a Purple Heart.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:22:21 AM PDT
by
NavySEAL F-16
( Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
To: Betaille
Seems fairly balanced... for ABCnews that is-----------------
Hell, even Karl Marxs would seem pretty balanced... for ABC news that is.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:26:03 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
(This is the way the world ends... not with a bang but a whimper)
To: Pikamax
The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the chargesI must have missed them doing this. I have heard them express outrage and personal attacks at the swift boat veterans, but I've heard nothing that would qualify as a successful rebuttal of the allegations.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: whitedog57
I heard the book was released on August 10th.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:27:08 AM PDT
by
dc-zoo
To: Pikamax
The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the charges In what universe? I just love how a "reporter" can make a pat statement like that and none of the "editors" raise an eyebrow. The campaign has not rebutted anything, let alone successfully.
To: whitedog57
When is this book being released? It was supposed to be released on August 1st, then we were told by Borders this week, and then we heard on the news that it was being delayed until the middle of September. Does anyone REALLY know when it will be released? As of earlier this morning, my Amazon pre-release order status shows an expected receipt date of 08/20-08/23.
The original release date was to be sometime in September but that was moved up a few weeks ago into August.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:30:17 AM PDT
by
Bob
To: Pikamax
The usual for ABDNC! Just because 95% of the press is going to work....er vote for Kerry, doesn't mean they can't be objective.
Pray for W and Our Amazing Military
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:31:08 AM PDT
by
bray
(Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
To: dirtboy
The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the charges ... Where are the rebuttals? I missed them. Never mind if they are successful or not, I have yet to see a rebuttal, other than "Kerry lied about being in Cambodia in Christmas of 1968," to that, the Kerry campaign has admitted.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:33:42 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Pikamax
"The Kerry campaign has successfully rebutted many of the charges." Where and when? Believe me if this were true, NO ONE would HAVE to ask where it was published. It would have been on the front page of the NY times. It would appear everyday until Nov 2.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:38:31 AM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
To: Pikamax
If you're inclined to think John Kerry is brash, self-possessed and occasionally immature (i.e., the Kerry campaign staff demographic), this book will confirm your suspicionsNo. I'm "inclined to think John Kerry" a liar, a traitor to those whose Vietnam service he smeared, and a disgraceful opportunist who will do or say anything to achieve power or wealth. I don't need the book or the ABC guy's opinion to tell me that.
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posted on
08/11/2004 10:42:24 AM PDT
by
catpuppy
(Vote For Fightin' John Kerry ... unless you care about your country)
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