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VANITY: Swift Boat Question
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Posted on 08/10/2004 8:49:42 PM PDT by TBP

I need information.

The Associated Press is claiming that one of the authors of the book Unfit ofr Command is a FReeper who has posted some, ah, inteeresting things. (At least they mentioned us.)

AP reports as follows:

WASHINGTON (AP) - One of the authors of a new anti-John Kerry book frequently posted comments on a conservative Web site describing Muslims and Catholics as pedophiles and Pope John Paul II as senile.

But as he prepared to launch the book, "Unfit for Command," Jerry Corsi apologized for the remarks in an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday, saying they were meant as a joke and he never intended to offend anyone.

In chat room entry last year on freerepublic.com, Corsi writes: "Islam is a peaceful religion — just as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered and the infidels are killed."

In another entry, he says: "So this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the lawyers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that's probably about it."

Is there any truth to this or is it just liberal media spin? If so, what is the gentleman's screen name (as I'm sure he was either misquoted or quoted out of context)?


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KEYWORDS: author; book; jeromecorsi; swiftboats; unfit
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To: Joe_October

Yeah, Steve Gardner was on board.


61 posted on 08/10/2004 9:58:29 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: ArmyBratproud

LOL!


62 posted on 08/10/2004 9:59:16 PM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: Joe_October
While we are asking questions. I thought one of the Swift Vets for Truth was the gunner behind Kerry. Doesn't this mean he was on the boat? Doesn't this mean, he was like 18 inches from the guy?

That would be Gunner's Mate Steve Gardner. Yes, he is with the SBVfT.

63 posted on 08/10/2004 9:59:26 PM PDT by Bob
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To: TBP

He didn't make his comments very tactfully, by a long shot.

However, there's more than a little truth in most of them.


64 posted on 08/10/2004 10:01:13 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Sabertooth
Unfortunately, the counterattack against Corsi will have longer legs elsewhere than it will here.

Doubtful. They've already relegated him as an "editor" on H&C tonight where he was scheduled to appear. He's better served just taking his fee and going away.

But that doesn't solve the "hangers on" angle. We'll see.

65 posted on 08/10/2004 10:01:36 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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To: All
The book will do the talkin.

Anything coming from David Brocks "media matters" site could be dirty'd by using the name of David Brock himself.

Now there is a history!

66 posted on 08/10/2004 10:02:04 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: nunya bidness
They've already relegated him as an "editor" on H&C tonight where he was scheduled to appear. He's better served just taking his fee and going away.

Good point, he donated his talent. he is a Harvard PHD.

This fact is in his favor and isolates him from the books contributors.

The brown book the rats are compiling will be their undoing, I hope.

If any of the info comes from private protected sources, their party will be over quickly and legally.

The books information is certainly sound and verified. The personal destruction that they will try to engage in will solidify our vet base and it will show up in the exit polling on election day.

67 posted on 08/10/2004 10:13:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Wolverine

aren't they vegetarians?


68 posted on 08/10/2004 10:15:45 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: So Cal Rocket
So if he is a freeper that's great,he is entitled to express his opinion,and what he said has absolutely nothing to do with the book.
69 posted on 08/10/2004 10:27:57 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Cold Heat
This subject has become the latest talking point(s) because they were handed the quotes on one of their sites by someone who observed Mr. Corsi very closely at FR, copied his comments, then passed them on to a radical lefty site last week. Mission accomplished.

His comments weren't any more traumatic or embarrassing to read than what is on that leftist site regarding Bush, Cheney, Republicans, Iraq, rich white men, and so on. Damned funny how that works.

70 posted on 08/10/2004 10:29:54 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant
All they had to do was google him. FR posts often end up on google. Jrlc put his name out on the forum and the connection went from there.

Sycophants sent the stuff to media matters when they find it. We need another site that monitor them for BS or maybe we can add a section to one of our conservative sites that get a lot of media hits. Perhaps we can do it here.

71 posted on 08/10/2004 10:35:51 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Cold Heat

They did a little more than 'google' him, because their source provided information about FR that had little to do with Corsi. It was more about the SBVs associating with FR and how that might taint them. The source even copied posts from another site where a banned FR personality(s) said Corsi played a part in that banning. The important point is: they got him discredited, but not really--and showed they are experts at the art of the smear.


72 posted on 08/10/2004 11:18:02 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: TBP
Yes he did. You can find them in the search function and do a User Search. He posted under JRLC. You'll have to go back to last year through a lot of posts.

While the comments are tacky I've read similar comments by OP-Ed writers in major papers and expressed in editorial cartoons. Well that's not exactly true. I haven't read anything making the Un-PC comment about Islam. It's much ado about nothing except to discredit the book without having to deal with the issues raised. I suppose we should go back and pull similar quotes from our favorite lefty columnists
73 posted on 08/10/2004 11:33:47 PM PDT by airedale
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To: TBP

Kerry spokesperson on FOXnews wed morning is already backpedaling like crazy on Cambodia comments and "seared memory" problems. Brian Kilmeade kept asking if Kerry WOULD sign to release his records -esp on a particular date of Jan 1969- the Kerry campaign kept changing the answer to He has released as many records as Bush has- I believe he has done this already -OOOPS- only released glowing reports- no other records- he also kept calling Swiftvets for Bush - how insulting these Dems are- McCain outa come out against Kerry camp insulting these vets as well!


74 posted on 08/11/2004 6:10:47 AM PDT by newzhawk
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To: All

In the last few days, I KNOW I went to mediamatters and read their site to discover words that they are funded by Soros. Now, those words are gone. However, here are others:

The Democrat "digital brownshirt" movement has come a long way since Kangas’s wildcatting days. Today, the movement is well-funded and tightly disciplined. Its headquarters is the Center for American Progress (CAP), a far-left think tank launched in July 2003. Headed by former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta and funded with $10 million from George Soros, CAP serves as the premier platform for Hillary Clinton’s political activism.

One of CAP’s missions, according to its charter, is to run "rapid response" media campaigns, for the purpose of debunking and discrediting troublesome press reports. In this respect, CAP’s mission echoes that of the so-called "War Room" which Hillary first operated during the 1992 presidential campaign. According to the Washington Post:

"The war room was set up to gather as much intelligence as possible and quickly turn it to Clinton’s advantage. Campaign advisors tried to anticipate what stories reporters were working on in hopes of shaping those stories before they were written."
Critical to the War Room’s success was James Carville’s so-called "rapid-response team" – an elite band of spinmeisters who prided themselves on their ability to intercept a Clinton scandal report at midnight and turn it around to Clinton’s advantage by 7 am the next morning.

In view of these facts, Al Gore's use of the term "rapid responder" becomes less mysterious. The term has evidently enjoyed a certain cachet among Clinton insiders for years. From the beginning, however, it has been the Democrats, not the Republicans, who have honed "rapid-response" media operations to a science.

On May 3, 2004, CAP launched a new Web site, MediaMatters.org, which specializes in "rapid-response" work. Funded with $2 million in soft money contributions, Media Matters set to work cranking out daily reports that attack with robotic monotony virtually every conservative utterance that finds its way onto the air waves as a "lie" a "smear," a "slander" or a "factual error."
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But trying to tie Soros to John Kerry's coattails simply isn't going to work - except with the brain dead faithful, and they're already rock solid.
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Media Matters for America is a new website (mediamatters.org) "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation." It's been developed with the zillions of tax-deductible dollars that George Soros and others contributed to the leftist Center for American Progress.
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And from the Edwards' Campaign BLOG: Entertainment for the Troops?
Posted by suswah
Friday June 04, @12:49PM
(The Center for American Progress Web site)
www.americanprogress.org

THE LIMBAUGH DOUBLE STANDARD: MediaMatters has sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, asking him to correct this double standard and remove Rush Limbaugh from Armed Forces Radio."


75 posted on 08/11/2004 6:11:46 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: unsycophant
The source even copied posts from another site where a banned FR personality(s) said Corsi played a part in that banning. The important point is: they got him discredited, but not really--and showed they are experts at the art of the smear.

Where? Do you have a source? Do you have a link to this?

There is no mention of such a thing in either David Brock's Media Matters piece or the resultant AP story by Jennifer Kerr.

Is there another story that mentions or links to "posts from another site where a banned FR personality(s) said Corsi played a part in that banning?"

Or is this just another smear of yours that you feel it's your prerogative not to support?


76 posted on 08/11/2004 6:29:34 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: combat_boots
"The war room was set up to gather as much intelligence as possible and quickly turn it to Clinton’s advantage. Campaign advisors tried to anticipate what stories reporters were working on in hopes of shaping those stories before they were written."

Critical to the War Room’s success was James Carville’s so-called "rapid-response team" – an elite band of spinmeisters who prided themselves on their ability to intercept a Clinton scandal report at midnight and turn it around to Clinton’s advantage by 7 am the next morning.

From the Media Matters site:

Who We Are

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media. Conservative misinformation is defined as news or commentary presented in the media that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda.

For the first time, Media Matters for America has put in place a system to monitor the media for conservative misinformation – every day, in real time -- in 2004 and beyond.

Media Matters for America’s website — www.mediamatters.org — is the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information through a range of initiatives:

Media Monitoring: Comprehensively monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets to identify conservative misinformation.

Media Analysis: Analyze the monitoring data, including broader trends in media coverage of politics and public policy, and post reports detailing the ways in which conservative misinformation is disseminated through media. Reports will include:

  • Rapid-response items documenting conservative misinformation in each news cycle, posted to the website in real time.
  • Longer research and analytic reports, appearing several times per week.
  • Occasional reports of a broader scope, delving deeper than daily and weekly material.

Inaugural Projects:

  • Democracy Project. Track and swiftly correct conservative media misinformation on major current political issues, with the goal of discouraging responsible news outlets from giving it credence.
  • Radio Project. Comprehensively monitor, analyze, and correct targeted political talk radio shows.
  • Columnist Project. Monitor to ensure that dozens of syndicated columnists -- and the newspapers that publish them -- maintain journalistic standards in their opinion columns.
  • Activism Project. In the planning stages, the Activism Project will spur progressive activism based on standards and accountability in media.

Media Matters
About Page

Anyone doubting Media Maters' resources should click the link to see the size of their editorial staff.


77 posted on 08/11/2004 6:41:55 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Howlin

Did you mean 5 years, or did you lurk for a year before registering?


78 posted on 08/11/2004 7:40:24 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

I first registered with another screen name.


79 posted on 08/11/2004 8:06:38 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: savedbygrace

I first registered with another screen name.


80 posted on 08/11/2004 8:06:44 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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